DUMBEST GUYS IN ROCK ... The Ace thread got me thinking... Who are the Dumbest guys in Rock n' Roll?

[Hellsinkey]

I like The Lemonheads, but Evan Dando is dumb.

[Danzig in the Dark]

Mick Mars? I don’t think he’s ever come across as dumb. Just weird and quiet and not a great father.

That too, but his rant about colorful cartoon dinosaurs and the "yuppies" who came up with that idea in The Dirt is one of the dumbest things I ever heard a rock star say. Even dumber is that he approved it for publishing.

I would think he knows about dinosaurs.

[SterileEyes1]

David Ellefson gives me major left-back-in-first-grade vibes.

Agreed Ace and Mick Mars don’t strike me as particularly bright.

Phil Anselmo might do a lot of stupid shit, but he’s not inherently stupid. Rex, on the other hand, read that guy’s book and let’s just say you’re not gonna come away from it thinking he’s a smart person.

Aaron Lewis, Ted Nugent, Michael Sweet = dumb. Kid Rock = possibly dumb, possibly just pandering to dumb people, perhaps both.

[Love_Industry]

Neal Schon and Joe Perry seem pretty dumb as well.

Going by their early lyrics I suspect the main songwriters in Saxon don't have very high IQs. Steve Dawson and Biff I guess. They can't even blame language issues like Krokus as they're English.

[jens]

Brian Robertson

What did he do?

[Nibbler]

You kidding? Had a fight in a bar and busted his hand the night before the most important US tour the band were going to do, recovered and came back, ego went out of control and he got pissed off with Phil and quit the band, was talked into coming back and then quit AGAIN.

Joined Motörhead and deliberately antagonised the audience by wearing goofy shorts on stage (not a joke) and got himself thrown out after one album.

Promptly threw his career away and did nothing of note since Thin Lizzy except for a failure of a band that no one heard of.

Refused to show up for a rehearsal or even a soundcheck for the Gary Moore Phil tribute show mid 2000s, proceeded to play like a kid learning how to play in the basement and almost totally derailed Emerald and Still In Love With You. Faded back into oblivion immediately afterwards.

Talk about a waste of talent.

[Zinny]

Vinnie Vincent, but then agan, there’s probably a mental illness involved and that just makes it sad.

[jens]

Talk about a waste of talent.

I knew about the career self sabotage.
Agreed on all your points of course, but was confused since the tread is more about guys struggling to spell their own names.

[Love_Industry]

Vinnie Vincent, but then agan, there’s probably a mental illness involved and that just makes it sad.

VV has many problems, mental illness included, but I am not sure room temperature IQ is one of them.

[BiggusDickus]

Those two guys in Anvil. Max Cavalera (Sepultura).

[Ozzy Stradlin]

Those two guys in Anvil.

These are perhaps the best candidates of all.

[MetalSludgeCEO]

Speaking of Dumb sh!t like Power Trip Festival...

Let's continue to discuss stupidity in the rock world.

Ready, Set, Sludge!

$ludge

[Playboyliquor59]

I like The Lemonheads, but Evan Dando is dumb.

Seeing him passed out on the side of the wiltern after I parked my car, wasted the night jawbreaker kicked him off the tour was something else.

[mrspeedgene]

Speaking of Dumb sh!t like Power Trip Festival...

Let's continue to discuss stupidity in the rock world.

Ready, Set, Sludge!

$ludge

Nearly 2 hrs of Tommy Lee on Club Random. Jeezus I could barely make 5 minutea.

[Love_Industry]

Continuing the Motörhead theme, Philthy Animal Taylor and Wurzel (both RIP) seemed pretty dumb.

Steevi Jaimz (Tigertailz) and Pete Blakk (King Diamond) are grade A morons as well.

[The Prez]

Nearly 2 hrs of Tommy Lee on Club Random. Jeezus I could barely make 5 minutea.

That was painful but tbh, he could barely get a sentence out before Bill interrupted him.

[Neil Diamond Dave]

Nearly 2 hrs of Tommy Lee on Club Random. Jeezus I could barely make 5 minutea.

That was painful but tbh, he could barely get a sentence out before Bill interrupted him.

Yeah, Bill is a bit of a "I, me, my" narcissist, so anyone he has on is just to interrupt them and bring up stuff about himself. I first thought, Bill is so lightyears ahead of Tommy's IQ, why would he even have him on? It's because they have the famous pussyhound thing in common. And Bill gets to drop in things about his own fame and cavorting. That's about it.

[Blumpkin King]

Jeff Keith seems dumb.

Sebastian actually seems pretty witty and can be funny. Not so sure he is dumb, but just pretty annoying.

[metalslayer]

Nearly 2 hrs of Tommy Lee on Club Random. Jeezus I could barely make 5 minutea.

That was painful but tbh, he could barely get a sentence out before Bill interrupted him.

Yeah, Bill is a bit of a "I, me, my" narcissist, so anyone he has on is just to interrupt them and bring up stuff about himself. I first thought, Bill is so lightyears ahead of Tommy's IQ, why would he even have him on? It's because they have the famous pussyhound thing in common. And Bill gets to drop in things about his own fame and cavorting. That's about it.

Bill isn’t very intelligent if you closely listen to him, which I do not recommend, ha ha . He is somewhat well read, but not a very smart guy.

I was going to bring up this topic as well though….Tommy claiming gallons of vodka a day, and “professor” bill does not call him on that. It is hard to drink “gallons” of beer a day if you are a complete drunk…..vodka? Get the fuck out of here….maybe a handle 1.75L at his worst, but gallons are just not humanly possible, even for the biggest human compost heap that is known as Tommy Lee

[Neil Diamond Dave]

That was painful but tbh, he could barely get a sentence out before Bill interrupted him.

Yeah, Bill is a bit of a "I, me, my" narcissist, so anyone he has on is just to interrupt them and bring up stuff about himself. I first thought, Bill is so lightyears ahead of Tommy's IQ, why would he even have him on? It's because they have the famous pussyhound thing in common. And Bill gets to drop in things about his own fame and cavorting. That's about it.

Bill isn’t very intelligent if you closely listen to him, which I do not recommend, ha ha . He is somewhat well read, but not a very smart guy.

I was going to bring up this topic as well though….Tommy claiming gallons of vodka a day, and “professor” bill does not call him on that. It is hard to drink “gallons” of beer a day if you are a complete drunk…..vodka? Get the fuck out of here….maybe a handle 1.75L at his worst, but gallons are just not humanly possible, even for the biggest human compost heap that is known as Tommy Lee

Yeah, Tommy is just 'fucking' inflating things a bit, for dramatic 'fucking' effect, as he normally 'fucking' does. He is probably getting confused with the 1.75L handles, and saying 'fucking' gallons. Bill probably doesn't correct him because he could care less and probably doesn't understand the 1.75L handles, as well.

I can't imagine at his age drinking that much and then going out and having to beat on things for a 2 hour show. I'd be calling in sick after drinking half of one 1.75L handle.

[The Prez]

He is probably getting confused with the 1.75L handles, and saying 'fucking' gallons. Bill probably doesn't correct him because he could care less and probably doesn't understand the 1.75L handles, as well.

I can't imagine at his age drinking that much and then going out and having to beat on things for a 2 hour show. I'd be calling in sick after drinking half of one 1.75L handle.

Yeah, that must it. Still, that's an insane amount of booze (if true), he's one lucky mofo to survive this, that's for sure. I think it was after Motley's "final" tour/show in 2015 when it was pretty clear he was boozing heavily. It definitely wasn't happening while
they were on tour.

[Love_Industry]

He is probably getting confused with the 1.75L handles, and saying 'fucking' gallons. Bill probably doesn't correct him because he could care less and probably doesn't understand the 1.75L handles, as well.

I can't imagine at his age drinking that much and then going out and having to beat on things for a 2 hour show. I'd be calling in sick after drinking half of one 1.75L handle.

Yeah, that must it. Still, that's an insane amount of booze (if true), he's one lucky mofo to survive this, that's for sure. I think it was after Motley's "final" tour/show in 2015 when it was pretty clear he was boozing heavily. It definitely wasn't happening while
they were on tour.

Tommy was drinking insane amounts long before that. Duff McKagan wrote in his book that he moved in next to Tommy's cottage in 1989, and within two months, he was "throwing up blood" over at Tommy's. Not even he could "hang" with Tommy Lee back then, and the same book Duff wrote that he was so drunk during the next GnR tour that he didn't remember he went to Czechoslovakia and played a show in Prague until he saw the stamps in his passport. So it's not like he wasn't used to drinking...

https://www.seattleweekly.com/music/duf ... -the-crue/

[The Prez]

Tommy was drinking insane amounts long before that. Duff McKagan wrote in his book that he moved in next to Tommy's cottage in 1989, and within two months, he was "throwing up blood" over at Tommy's. Not even he could "hang" with Tommy Lee back then, and the same book Duff wrote that he was so drunk during the next GnR tour that he didn't remember he went to Czechoslovakia and played a show in Prague until he saw the stamps in his passport. So it's not like he wasn't used to drinking...

https://www.seattleweekly.com/music/duf ... -the-crue/

For sure, but you can get away with it in your 20s...doing this shit when you're pushing 60 is ridiculous. Duff nearly died as a result and has been clean ever since. Tommy on the other had...

[El Vampiro Blanco]

Tommy was drinking insane amounts long before that. Duff McKagan wrote in his book that he moved in next to Tommy's cottage in 1989, and within two months, he was "throwing up blood" over at Tommy's. Not even he could "hang" with Tommy Lee back then, and the same book Duff wrote that he was so drunk during the next GnR tour that he didn't remember he went to Czechoslovakia and played a show in Prague until he saw the stamps in his passport. So it's not like he wasn't used to drinking...

https://www.seattleweekly.com/music/duf ... -the-crue/

For sure, but you can get away with it in your 20s...doing this shit when you're pushing 60 is ridiculous. Duff nearly died as a result and has been clean ever since. Tommy on the other had...

But Tommy is brain dead....

[SchenkerFan]

Brian Robertson

What did he do?

Dipped his brain in alcohol.

[SchenkerFan]

Mick Mars? I don’t think he’s ever come across as dumb. Just weird and quiet and not a great father.

That too, but his rant about colorful cartoon dinosaurs and the "yuppies" who came up with that idea in The Dirt is one of the dumbest things I ever heard a rock star say. Even dumber is that he approved it for publishing.

Also, isn't he five times divorced? Not the sign of a very smart rich rock star, that must have cost him a lot.

It is really dumb if you got cleaned out once and still go without a pre nup.

People seem to think he's smart because he doesn't speak that much. Judging from the things I've read, that's probably for the best.

Tommy seems like a guy that never thinks before he does anything. In fact, I wonder whether thinking is something he does at all.

Nikki is a little smarter, but he tries so hard to come off as smart while he's probably only average.

Vince? Hard to tell if he's drunk 90% of the time. Come to think of it, that usually doesn't really boost your IQ.

To conclude I give the Crue an average IQ of 85. A little above Forrest Gump level.

[diablomozart]

i've met ace...he is convinced he is a genius which makes him even more annoying...on the other hand i met pete steele from type o, wasn't expecting much and he was extremely witty and came across both unaffected and intelligent...dude could have easily been a standup comic...d.m.