El Toro's Official Guitarded Thread...

[ElToro]

What's with all the Rats?

[Junkyard Willie]

Has anyone played through any of the Eventide pedals yet? The pitchfactor sounds great, but, for a couple hundred more, I can get a used H3000 off of ebay.
I was told the down side of Eventide was the noise factor.
Eltoro, did you ever have any rack mount Eventide gear?

[Jack Drugless]

What's with all the Rats?

A few vintage stock, a modded vintage, a 90's stock, and a few modded ones that range from
pretty much stock to the beavis audio 4-knob 5-switch super mod.

They're great pedals but if you sort through them and find a good one so that you can
start with a good sounding base, you can have a very versatile stellar sounding pedal.

I've also picked up a few MI Audio pedals to replace ones that had been sold or given away.

They fucking rock.

[ElToro]

Never owned an Eventide, sorry.

Jack, you keeping all those Rats?

[Horse Called War]

Picked up a ADA MP-1 and the floor board for it. Great condition, you don't see these laying around everyday

[ElToro]

Some great mods for those ADAs...

[Ten Years Gone]

What's with all the Rats?

A few vintage stock, a modded vintage, a 90's stock, and a few modded ones that range from
pretty much stock to the beavis audio 4-knob 5-switch super mod.

They're great pedals but if you sort through them and find a good one so that you can
start with a good sounding base, you can have a very versatile stellar sounding pedal.

I've also picked up a few MI Audio pedals to replace ones that had been sold or given away.

They fucking rock.

If you like collecting Rats and don't object to clones, check out the CMATMODS Black Plague. Killer Rat tones.

[Captain Morgan]

What's with all the Rats?

A few vintage stock, a modded vintage, a 90's stock, and a few modded ones that range from
pretty much stock to the beavis audio 4-knob 5-switch super mod.

They're great pedals but if you sort through them and find a good one so that you can
start with a good sounding base, you can have a very versatile stellar sounding pedal.

I've also picked up a few MI Audio pedals to replace ones that had been sold or given away.

They fucking rock.

If you like collecting Rats and don't object to clones, check out the CMATMODS Black Plague. Killer Rat tones.

+1,000,000. CMATMODS rocks, and Chad is a super nice guy.

[Liquid Boom Boom]

If you guys had an old school type Les Paul, lets say a Custom Re-issue that had the 496t and 500t PU's in them and wanted that old school LP tone, what Pickups would you put in there?

Seth Lovers?

I may have a line on a gorgeous Re-issue LP, but those PU's won't be in there long....

[Fender_baller]

If you guys had an old school type Les Paul, lets say a Custom Re-issue that had the 496t and 500t PU's in them and wanted that old school LP tone, what Pickups would you put in there?

Seth Lovers?

I may have a line on a gorgeous Re-issue LP, but those PU's won't be in there long....

Humbuckers!!!!

Putting anything else in a Les Paul is sin.

[lerxstcat]

If you guys had an old school type Les Paul, lets say a Custom Re-issue that had the 496t and 500t PU's in them and wanted that old school LP tone, what Pickups would you put in there?

Seth Lovers?

I may have a line on a gorgeous Re-issue LP, but those PU's won't be in there long....

Humbuckers!!!!

Putting anything else in a Les Paul is sin.

Seth Lover invented the humbucking pickup. I think it's pretty much agreed that humbuckers are the thing for a LP, though I would put push-pull coil taps in order to get single-coil tones on occasion too. I still think a DiMarzio Super Distortion in the bridge and a PAF Pro in the neck are great pickups for a Les Paul.

[Liquid Boom Boom]

Of course it will be humbuckers. I wasn't aware that Lover made single coils. I was just thinking the Lovers were the Old school PAF type pickups...no?

[Sleek]

Humbuckers!!!!

Putting anything else in a Les Paul is sin.

I think a good argument could be made for P90's.

...and my personal fave, mini-hums...watch some early '70's WHO footage. Townshend's tone is GREAT with the minis...

[Captain Morgan]

Humbuckers!!!!

Putting anything else in a Les Paul is sin.

I think a good argument could be made for P90's.

...and my personal fave, mini-hums...watch some early '70's WHO footage. Townshend's tone is GREAT with the minis...

...was about to say...

P-90s are amazing in an LP.

[exitflagger]

...and my personal fave, mini-hums...watch some early '70's WHO footage. Townshend's tone is GREAT with the minis...

Man, that's the first time I've ever heard a positive thing about mini's. First Les Paul I ever had was a standard with mini humbuckers and I HATED the sound of them. For some reason I thought I could get the amp and effects to make up for it so I bought the guitar anyway. Regretted it from day one.

Never again.

[Gitarrrjam]

Townshend also added the DiMarzio Dual Sound Humbucker in the middle position of his Les Paul Deluxe's in the mid 70s, and that fattened his sound up.

[Sleek]

...and my personal fave, mini-hums...watch some early '70's WHO footage. Townshend's tone is GREAT with the minis...

Man, that's the first time I've ever heard a positive thing about mini's. First Les Paul I ever had was a standard with mini humbuckers and I HATED the sound of them. For some reason I thought I could get the amp and effects to make up for it so I bought the guitar anyway. Regretted it from day one.

Never again.

I love minis. All my main guits have them.

I had a Paul Deluxe with them in about '89 myself and hated it.

I figure it was because when I was young, I wanted everything to have high output and no mids and to sound as fat as possible...and as I got older, I realized I liked MORE mids and lower output and for everything to sound as tight and focused as possible...which minis excel at.

Townshend also added the DiMarzio Dual Sound Humbucker in the middle position of his Les Paul Deluxe's in the mid 70s, and that fattened his sound up.

Not so much.

The show I was just watching, he had an unaltered one...but the ones with the middle pup were more for the clean sound...he would run the middle as a single for the jangle. (Hence getting the splittable DiMarzio in there)

The main lead/rhythm sound was usually just the bridge mini, though.

http://www.thewho.net/whotabs/gear/guitar/lpdeluxe.html

[Jack Drugless]

Jack, you keeping all those Rats?

I'll sell off what I don't need after I decide what to keep.
Don't know if I really need the two vintage stocks, as I'd rather use a moded one, but it
just kind of happened that I wanted a few to toy with and ended up with a bunch of really nice ones.

If you like collecting Rats and don't object to clones, check out the CMATMODS Black Plague. Killer Rat tones.


+1,000,000. CMATMODS rocks, and Chad is a super nice guy.

I think I have my lm308 chip-based audio needs covered but I agree that his stuff
rocks.

[Captain Morgan]

Dimarzio Chopper and Visual Sound Route 808 on the way...

[Jack Drugless]

I like P-90's a lot more than humbuckers. When I got my SG Junior it
had a T-top humbucker crammed in it. I put an end to this silliness at once.

Mini's have never done a single thing for me for any style of music.
I've had quite a few very nice Les Paul's that got sold because I stated thinking
about routing them out for hb's.

[Gitarrrjam]

...and my personal fave, mini-hums...watch some early '70's WHO footage. Townshend's tone is GREAT with the minis...

Man, that's the first time I've ever heard a positive thing about mini's. First Les Paul I ever had was a standard with mini humbuckers and I HATED the sound of them. For some reason I thought I could get the amp and effects to make up for it so I bought the guitar anyway. Regretted it from day one.

Never again.

I love minis. All my main guits have them.

I had a Paul Deluxe with them in about '89 myself and hated it.

I figure it was because when I was young, I wanted everything to have high output and no mids and to sound as fat as possible...and as I got older, I realized I liked MORE mids and lower output and for everything to sound as tight and focused as possible...which minis excel at.

Townshend also added the DiMarzio Dual Sound Humbucker in the middle position of his Les Paul Deluxe's in the mid 70s, and that fattened his sound up.

Not so much.

The show I was just watching, he had an unaltered one...but the ones with the middle pup were more for the clean sound...he would run the middle as a single for the jangle. (Hence getting the splittable DiMarzio in there)

The main lead/rhythm sound was usually just the bridge mini, though.

http://www.thewho.net/whotabs/gear/guitar/lpdeluxe.html

Cool! Didn't know that. His tone on "The Kids Are Alright" DVD on "Baba O'Reilly" and "Won't Get Fooled Again" is killer.

[Captain Morgan]

I like P-90's a lot more than humbuckers. When I got my SG Junior it
had a T-top humbucker crammed in it. I put an end to this silliness at once.

Mini's have never done a single thing for me for any style of music.
I've had quite a few very nice Les Paul's that got sold because I stated thinking
about routing them out for hb's.

Yeah, I'm more of a singlecoil guy too. I do prefer minis to regular 'buckers, but like you said it's difficult to find a use. I sort of dig the '52 Hot Rod Tele with the Duncan mini in the neck with a '52 bridge pickup.

[Sleek]

Y'all bitches are acting like minis are special use items...

I use 'em for everything. I like them through a fairly high gain amp, (I use tsls), as they kinda de-metalize the amp and give it focus. (Kinda like the Slash afd sorta thing).

When I use full sized hums, they always seem kinda farty and loose to me now.

[Jack Drugless]

Mini's should come with a free hat.

[Sleek]

I don't even know what that means...but it made me laugh.

[Captain Morgan]

Mini's should come with a free hat.

[Suite 16 Guitarist]

Hey guys...need some help on a guitar that I've acquired...

Hondo Fame series 7634, Red, small...3/4 body...possibly a kids starter guitar...cant find anything on the net besides its production in the mid 80s. Anyone know/have/had one of these? is it junk?

Thanks!

[lerxstcat]

The body is probably plywood, so yeah, kinda junky - but if you like it, what the hell! Those can sound pretty good with a high-gain pickup for metal at least. Plywood in general I mean, dunno about that one specifically. I've known guys with 80s Kramer Strikers that didn't sound bad and they were plywood, with a high-output humbucker.

I wouldn't put any money in it, you ain't getting it back out of a Hondo.

[Suite 16 Guitarist]

Thanks lerx...plywood with a pickup ...i was pretty sure it wasnt special...but this is the place to ask...thanks again!

[wattage13]

Since one of the guys here never came thru and I bore easily I decided to keep the PRS SE One I was selling, mostly cause it's such a cool little guitar I don't know how I'd find anything for 2x the cost to replace. I really don't use P90's anymore because of the noise and most Gretsch's play like ass IMO so I rolled my own. Stock Gretsch Filtertron, Wilinson tail and a hell of a lot of sanding, fucking thing is awesome. I love 'trons, especially with the treble bleed wiring. A tip of the hat to Malcolm, sounds just like Jailbreak '74, I call it Mangus. Next up making my own Wayne Kramer trib.