KISS question, what happened between RARO and Love Gun?

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Re: KISS question, what happened between RARO and Love Gun?

Postby StateOfShock » Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:27 pm

Mister Freeze wrote:
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pieceofme wrote:
It isn't stupid.

If the album hadn't been a hit, there is no way Gene and Paul would talk about it so fondly!



If it wasn't a hit, they still wouldn't talk about it like they do The Elder. That is a stupid assumption.


KISS has been peddling a very predictable brand of bullshit for decades. Some of their fans can't see it. Perhaps you're one of them.

KISS was coming off its biggest success with a raw rock n' roll album that put the best songs from their first 3 albums in one place. To their credit, they gambled and went in a different direction with Destroyer. It didn't take off until a leftover Peter Criss demo hit the charts with strings, horns and none of the other band members on it. If the single flopped, the album would've been seen as an underperforming mistake and they'd still be making excuses for it today...

"We lost our way."

"It's a good Bob Ezrin album. I'm not sure it's a good KISS album."


Sound familiar? Nobody is saying Destroyer and The Elder are equal in quality, but both could be tossed in the same cut-out bin if "Beth" didn't take off. Throw in the iconic album cover and Destroyer takes on a mythology that far outweighs the quality of its content. "Detroit Rock City" and "God of Thunder" are classics, but the rest of the album is one big pile of meh. Yet Stanley/Simmons Inc. consider it the album that elevated their career beyond Alive!, so we still get underwhelming songs like "Do You Love Me" and "King of the Night Time World" in the setlist.




There is a huge amount of opinion in there and not much else; except for the "if's".
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Re: KISS question, what happened between RARO and Love Gun?

Postby TREVERLAST » Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:05 pm

Fat_Elvis wrote:
pieceofme wrote:Hell, Dynasty is a far better album than Love Gun!

For sure.

Only on Sludge ?!?!
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Re: KISS question, what happened between RARO and Love Gun?

Postby risingfarce » Fri Jan 12, 2018 1:32 am

Artemis2085 wrote:
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risingfarce wrote:
Artemis spends his life over on KISSfaq, then posts on here like he's not a KISS fan.


How pathetic.

:lol:


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:lol:

I'm not on FAQ and I'm a diehard. Gawd, what a fucking dunce. Did Neal Peart make you do drugs too?



You know every post over there. Then you come over here acting like you're above it all.

:lol:

Such a hypocrite.
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Re: KISS question, what happened between RARO and Love Gun?

Postby parasite74 » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:13 am

Fat_Elvis wrote:Dressed to Kill sounds awesome



I concur!
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Re: KISS question, what happened between RARO and Love Gun?

Postby ALMOSTsaved » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:20 am

parasite74 wrote:
Fat_Elvis wrote:Dressed to Kill sounds awesome



I concur!


Me too. Love the crisp drums and guitar.
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Re: KISS question, what happened between RARO and Love Gun?

Postby mrspeedgene » Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:27 am

If the first 2 albums sounded like DTK they would have been so much better.

The guitars, bass and drums have great separation and clarity. The guitar sound is beefy.

Too bad song wise its the weakest of the first three.
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Re: KISS question, what happened between RARO and Love Gun?

Postby Whatever Happened To… » Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:55 am

I always loved the sound of Paul's '78 solo disc, overall the playing and production buries most of Kiss' studio albums and Paul's voice is at its peak. Everything that came after this was a letdown apart from the sublime Sure Know Something - easily Kiss' best song.
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Re: KISS question, what happened between RARO and Love Gun?

Postby Nick E. Carlos » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:04 am

Whatever Happened To… wrote:I always loved the sound of Paul's '78 solo disc, overall the playing and production buries most of Kiss' studio albums and Paul's voice is at its peak. Everything that came after this was a letdown apart from the sublime Sure Know Something - easily Kiss' best song.


If you listen to “Unplugged” (and the version of “Sure Know Something”), it becomes clear that Paul’s voice definitely didn’t peak in 1978.
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Re: KISS question, what happened between RARO and Love Gun?

Postby Chip Z'Hoy » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:01 am

Artemis2085 wrote: :lol:

I'm not on FAQ and I'm a diehard. Gawd, what a fucking dunce. Did Neal Peart make you do drugs too?

Really? You sure do plagiarize a lot from a board you're not even on.
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Re: KISS question, what happened between RARO and Love Gun?

Postby Dyslexicheart » Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:27 pm

Whatever Happened To… wrote:I always loved the sound of Paul's '78 solo disc, overall the playing and production buries most of Kiss' studio albums and Paul's voice is at its peak. Everything that came after this was a letdown apart from the sublime Sure Know Something - easily Kiss' best song.


That wouldn’t crack my top 40 Kiss songs. So Paul can write a passable pop song, big fucking deal. Maybe my little sister might have liked it at the time, probably not.
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Re: KISS question, what happened between RARO and Love Gun?

Postby Jason Jennifer Leigh » Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:40 pm

Rock N Roll Over is all killer no filler, Love Gun has 3 good songs.

Rock N Roll Over was recorded live as a band, right?
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Re: KISS question, what happened between RARO and Love Gun?

Postby stereolabster » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:14 am

EatNails wrote:
Bassmaster1984 wrote:and on Love Gun they sound almost acoustic.


It's the only Kiss album I listen to, and I like it for just that reason.


That's not a coincidence. ACE doubled a lot of his rhythm guitar parts on those early KISS albums with acoustic guitars in order to beef up the sound.
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Re: KISS question, what happened between RARO and Love Gun?

Postby supertzar7078 » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:55 pm

Casablanca sucks. Kiss could have actually had mighty-sounding albums during the 70s, but it was all wasted!
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Re: KISS question, what happened between RARO and Love Gun?

Postby Hollywood's Burning » Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:47 pm

stereolabster wrote:
EatNails wrote:
Bassmaster1984 wrote:and on Love Gun they sound almost acoustic.


It's the only Kiss album I listen to, and I like it for just that reason.


That's not a coincidence. ACE doubled a lot of his rhythm guitar parts on those early KISS albums with acoustic guitars in order to beef up the sound.


The acoustic parts on the early albums were mostly done by Stanley IIRC.

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