George Lynch VS. Jake E. Lee: Best chops?

supertzar7078 · Postby **supertzar7078** » Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:32 pm

Who did it better?

suckit · Postby **suckit** » Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:34 pm

Love em both but Lynchies better.

Sleek · Postby **Sleek** » Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:04 pm

Lynch has a completely unique voice on the instrument and is an utter alien. The hair metal Jeff Beck.

Jake is fine.

Psychobolia.com · Postby **Psychobolia.com** » Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:16 pm

Close but Lynch for me.

I just learned his solo to Tooth and Nail. I thought it was going to be difficult but it's actually pretty easy to learn, a lot of his stuff is just "shapes", re-occuring patterns that repeat down each string. Still, I'm having trouble with one open hammer-on section towards the end of the solo because it's just so damn fast, he plays certain patterns really, really fast.

Olds_71_442 · Postby **Olds_71_442** » Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:26 pm

suckit wrote:Love em both but Lynchies better.

Same for me.

dmbrocker · Postby **dmbrocker** » Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:57 pm

suckit wrote:Love em both but Lynchies better.

Yep, this. Jake's playing on Bark at the Moon, The Ultimate Sin, and Badlands' first two albums is solid, but Lynch is a bonafide guitar god...

dffd78 · Postby **dffd78** » Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:07 pm

When both were on top of their game, I preferred Jakes style/tone more.

Technically speaking: Lynch

risingfarce · Postby **risingfarce** » Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:22 pm

Lee.

Lynch never played anything as good as the rhythm and solos in the song "Bark At The Moon".

supertzar7078 · Postby **supertzar7078** » Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:39 pm

Lynch never wrote a riff with anywhere near the crunch as the opening riff of Rock n Roll Rebel.

Although I think his solos have more 'feel' than Jake's..and his technique is simply unique in rock/metal.

Shred factor..I think they're both about equal.

fret123 · Postby **fret123** » Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:50 pm

supertzar7078 wrote:Lynch never wrote a riff with anywhere near the crunch as the opening riff of Rock n Roll Rebel.

Although I think his solos have more 'feel' than Jake's..and his technique is simply unique in rock/metal.

Shred factor..I think they're both about equal.

I always thought til The Living End was a pretty good riff, and the solo is bananas. George Lynch was by far the better guitarist in every respect, plus he had that kind of Eddie Van Halen inventiveness and creativity for creating intros and compositional solos, as opposed to just wankery. His guitarwork, the riffs, the bridges, the solos just blows me away. George Lynch was god-like. Jake was just good.

diablomozart · Postby **diablomozart** » Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:50 pm

lynch has the more unique voice as a soloist...jake was a much more innovative rhythm player...d.m.

fret123 · Postby **fret123** » Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:54 pm

supertzar7078 wrote:Lynch never wrote a riff with anywhere near the crunch as the opening riff of Rock n Roll Rebel.

Although I think his solos have more 'feel' than Jake's..and his technique is simply unique in rock/metal.

Shred factor..I think they're both about equal.

I always thought til The Living End was a pretty good riff, and the solo is bananas. George Lynch was by far the better guitarist in every respect, plus he had that kind of Eddie Van Halen inventiveness and creativity for creating intros and compositional solos, as opposed to just wankery. His guitarwork, the riffs, the bridges, the solos just blows me away. George Lynch was god-like. Jake was just good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suwXLMjylB0

Thebottomline · Postby **Thebottomline** » Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:08 pm

Jake E. Lee.

There's some footage with George playing with Sebastian Bach, Phil Soussan, and Vinnie Appice and they were doing some Ozzy covers and George couldn't play the Jake E. Lee's parts for shit. George seriously botched The Ultimate Sin, Shot In The Dark, and his attempt trying to play Killer Of Giants would should have been laughable but it was just flat out sad.

EddieVanHeineken · Postby **EddieVanHeineken** » Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:45 am

Thebottomline wrote:Jake E. Lee.

There's some footage with George playing with Sebastian Bach, Phil Soussan, and Vinnie Appice and they were doing some Ozzy covers and George couldn't play the Jake E. Lee's parts for shit. George seriously botched The Ultimate Sin, Shot In The Dark, and his attempt trying to play Killer Of Giants would should have been laughable but it was just flat out sad.

I had to go look that footage up. George is not a guy that covers material very well. Which is why I don't think he would have been a good fit for Ozzy. I was curious how he'd do with Killer of Giants, which IMO, is on of Ozzy's best and more unique songs. Also, the solo is fantastic. His guitar was out of tune coming out of his solo. Just take a second to tune up, Not that hard. I guess thats the price you pay for the wammy bar and locking nuts. Anyway, he did better on the rhythm parts than I thought he would. The first verse had some cool classical style finger picking which Lynch didn't bother with. He did fine on the other parts. The solo he didn't even make an effort to cover what Jake did. Overall, it wasn't as terrible as I'd imagined, but reinforces that George is not a good rhythm player and not good at emulating others. Which is fine. He has his own unique lead style that I'm sure if the tables were turned, Jake couldn't copy. I don't see Jake being able to play the Kiss of Death solo.

SeminiferousButtNoid · Postby **SeminiferousButtNoid** » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:42 am

I'd say they are about equal rhythm players but George Lynch is the better lead player.

fret123 · Postby **fret123** » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:31 am

Thebottomline wrote:Jake E. Lee.

There's some footage with George playing with Sebastian Bach, Phil Soussan, and Vinnie Appice and they were doing some Ozzy covers and George couldn't play the Jake E. Lee's parts for shit. George seriously botched The Ultimate Sin, Shot In The Dark, and his attempt trying to play Killer Of Giants would should have been laughable but it was just flat out sad.

.......and if Jake had to do Kiss Of Death or Mr. Scary he probably couldn't do it either in an off the cuff jam situation.

Sleek · Postby **Sleek** » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:58 am

supertzar7078 wrote:Lynch never wrote a riff with anywhere near the crunch as the opening riff of Rock n Roll Rebel.

Meh. RNRR is just sort of a terrible/typical F# minor riff. Every band back then had one.

Dokken's version was "Lightning strikes again".

Contrast, compare:

OZ: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHBjdSRmRvU

DOK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcjHqDN1Is0

JohnnyDouche · Postby **JohnnyDouche** » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:59 am

supertzar7078 wrote:Lynch never wrote a riff with anywhere near the crunch as the opening riff of Rock n Roll Rebel.

Funny. For the guitarists out there, they know lynch snagged that exact riff and sped it up (lightning strikes again). That call and response solo alone puts lynch up there.

Lynch by a fuckin mile.

Thrasherfan17 · Postby **Thrasherfan17** » Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:32 am

For me, George isn't in the same league as Jake. Best chops, as in speed? Rhythm?
I'd take Jakes vibrato over GL any day. As far as songwriting goes, its not even close. Any of the good Dokken songs were written by Don.
Not to take anything away from George, as he's written some great solos, and Mr Scary is his shining moment. The first Lynch Mob album was good too. But all three Badlands albums are on another level, imo. Even the RDC cd had some moments. I'm looking forward to hearing the next one.

Tommy2Tone84 · Postby **Tommy2Tone84** » Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:02 pm

Both were golden metal gods between 1984 and 1990. Fuck you all for pitting them against one another!!!!

suckit · Postby **suckit** » Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:59 pm

Tommy2Tone84 wrote:Both were golden metal gods between 1984 and 1990. Fuck you all for pitting them against one another!!!!

True that. They were both on their game during that time, and they were players' players.