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ACDC just released a rehearsal clip and Phil is not there. They will be using another drummer. Already forgot the name...
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Where are the internet super sleuths? What's up with Phil? I'd think it would be in my feed by now.
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BDG135 wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 9:07 am Where are the internet super sleuths? What's up with Phil? I'd think it would be in my feed by now.
They got Matt Laug on drums. Phil probably had Visa issues, remember in 2015 he plead guilty to threatening to kill a former assistant and possession of methamphetamine and cannabis.
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wildside1969 wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:41 am
BDG135 wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 9:07 am Where are the internet super sleuths? What's up with Phil? I'd think it would be in my feed by now.
They got Matt Laug on drums. Phil probably had Visa issues, remember in 2015 he plead guilty to threatening to kill a former assistant and possession of methamphetamine and cannabis.
Yes, but he was able to get into Canada to record the album and by all accounts Canada is more strict than the US with visas.
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No Malcolm, no Phil, not AC/DC
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Heard they were getting Simon Wright who lives in the area, but then something went wrong. Probably don’t forgive him for selling bands t shirts back in the 80’s. Angus tends to hold a grudge or two.
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Maybe Rudd just doesn't feel like rehearsing with the band for weeks just to play one gig.

ACDC doesn't have anything else going on other than the one Power Trip show.

Maybe he felt it wasn't worth it to go through all that hassle just to play one show. He seems to be that kind of guy to me.

Spending a month or two in Canada to record an album is entirely different than spending a few weeks rehearsing only to fly to the other side of the planet to play a single show.

Maybe I'm wrong and he's out of the band for good. But Rudd just seems to be the type of dude to say "to hell with that, get someone else!".
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Lobo wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 4:35 pm Maybe Rudd just doesn't feel like rehearsing with the band for weeks just to play one gig.

ACDC doesn't have anything else going on other than the one Power Trip show.

Maybe he felt it wasn't worth it to go through all that hassle just to play one show. He seems to be that kind of guy to me.

Spending a month or two in Canada to record an album is entirely different than spending a few weeks rehearsing only to fly to the other side of the planet to play a single show.

Maybe I'm wrong and he's out of the band for good. But Rudd just seems to be the type of dude to say "to hell with that, get someone else!".
The only odd thing is that Phil was specifically brought back to keep Cliff Williams from retiring, because he was tired of the revolving door of replacement players. But maybe since it's just one gig and Brian is back as well, he's okay with it.

I feel a little bad for Chris Slade, though, I know some people don't like his playing, but it's clear he wasn't wanted back.
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What a dick move. The thing in 2016, middle of a tour, emergency circumstances, fair enough. That was well-handled.

In this case, I’m guessing there are more than a few AC/DC fans around the world who bought tickets to this and made travel plans thinking they were getting the classic lineup (sans Mal) one last time, and it seems the band knew all along Phil wouldn’t be involved. Then they let the news out at the 11th hour all passive-aggressive like this.

Most won’t care, but the people who will care got pretty royally screwed over, and it was likely on purpose.
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Anthrax442 wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 7:59 pm
I feel a little bad for Chris Slade, though, I know some people don't like his playing, but it's clear he wasn't wanted back.
Sure, but Slade did get to enjoy a world-tour reunion with the band. And he's 76 years old - I know they're all old, but it's pretty common to go younger when it comes to the drummer.
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Phil was 100% and bring in someone last minute means something heavy went down.

If you're in ACDC, they have a legal team out the wazoo, so any travel issues can be taken care of easily.

Additionally, this gig has been booked for months, so to drop him 30 days out is really lame.

No offense to Chris Slade, but no one has the feel of Phil Rudd.

He's not on the edge of the beat and it always feels slow/half tempo with him.

Was thinking about going, will be a pass now.

Which brings up the real "headline" which is:

IT"S OVER (except the Stones!) for all of these bands. Completely 10000% OVER - It's become CRINGE City.

The Aero footage is completely brutal, half speed and the playing sucks. Sure, Tyler sounds great but when you get honest
It is not where it should be - not even close. They don't even look happy to be there and Joe Perry looks seriously ill.

Hard pass on the Peace Out, Kiss farewell, ....................

And let's not forget about the crowd - Walkers, fat and on oxygen.

The only danger at these gigs is a slip and fall accident or the price of beer!
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Ralph2 wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 8:37 pm Phil was 100% and bring in someone last minute means something heavy went down.

If you're in ACDC, they have a legal team out the wazoo, so any travel issues can be taken care of easily.

Additionally, this gig has been booked for months, so to drop him 30 days out is really lame.

No offense to Chris Slade, but no one has the feel of Phil Rudd.

He's not on the edge of the beat and it always feels slow/half tempo with him.

Was thinking about going, will be a pass now.

Which brings up the real "headline" which is:

IT"S OVER (except the Stones!) for all of these bands. Completely 10000% OVER - It's become CRINGE City.

The Aero footage is completely brutal, half speed and the playing sucks. Sure, Tyler sounds great but when you get honest
It is not where it should be - not even close. They don't even look happy to be there and Joe Perry looks seriously ill.

Hard pass on the Peace Out, Kiss farewell, ....................

And let's not forget about the crowd - Walkers, fat and on oxygen.

The only danger at these gigs is a slip and fall accident or the price of beer!
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Lobo wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 4:35 pm Maybe Rudd just doesn't feel like rehearsing with the band for weeks just to play one gig.

ACDC doesn't have anything else going on other than the one Power Trip show.

Maybe he felt it wasn't worth it to go through all that hassle just to play one show. He seems to be that kind of guy to me.

Spending a month or two in Canada to record an album is entirely different than spending a few weeks rehearsing only to fly to the other side of the planet to play a single show.

Maybe I'm wrong and he's out of the band for good. But Rudd just seems to be the type of dude to say "to hell with that, get someone else!".
you really think they aren't going to announce more shows? you really think they would travel that whole distance for one show that isn't a global event?
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Ralph2 wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 8:37 pm

The only danger at these gigs is a slip and fall accident or the price of beer!
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Dyslexicheart wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 12:28 pm No Malcolm, no Phil, not AC/DC

this right here.
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Just a drummer. And not like Peart, Zoltan, or Portnoy.

So who really gives a fuck?
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Does it even matter?

How many Kisstards are buying tickets to see the fakes Ace and Peter?
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To the hardcores, have every album types, yeah, no Phil may = no AC/DC. To the casuals that only know the hits and have never bought an album, they don't give a shit. Give them a singer that sounds right in the funny hat and a guitarist dressed like a schoolboy and they're happy.
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DemonFilth2001 wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 6:32 am Just a drummer. And not like Zoltan.

So who really gives a fuck?
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whiteowl yesterday wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 3:17 am
Dyslexicheart wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 12:28 pm No Malcolm, no Phil, not AC/DC

this right here.
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El Vampiro Blanco wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 8:24 am ACDC just released a rehearsal clip and Phil is not there. They will be using another drummer. Already forgot the name...
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TravisBicklesMohawk wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 7:14 am Does it even matter?

How many Kisstards are buying tickets to see the fakes Ace and Peter?
More like: how many kisstards even know or care there's a fake Ace and Peter?
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GoodJudge wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 9:47 am
TravisBicklesMohawk wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 7:14 am Does it even matter?

How many Kisstards are buying tickets to see the fakes Ace and Peter?
More like: how many kisstards even know or care there's a fake Ace and Peter?
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I saw AC/DC in '91 with Chris Slade drumming and they were still great. I prefer Phil's drumming and considering he was back for the last album I kind of thought he'd be here for this show. I wouldn't discount visa issues. (Canada is tough on DUI convictions, but not so much on drug possession, so maybe this is more of an issue for the United States?) Could be a health issue or maybe he's back to some of his old habits? Or, maybe Phil just doesn't feel like doing it?

Regardless, if they end up doing more dates next year and there is something within a five or six hour drive of my place, I'd like to see AC/DC one last time.
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DemonFilth2001 wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 6:32 am Just a drummer. And not like Peart, Zoltan, or Portnoy.

So who really gives a fuck?
Zoltan Chaney? A circus clown who doesn’t play a song the same way twice because he’s busy doing tricks… being compared to Peart and Portnoy… that’s a joke, right?
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WOLF wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 7:00 am
DemonFilth2001 wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 6:32 am Just a drummer. And not like Peart, Zoltan, or Portnoy.

So who really gives a fuck?
Zoltan Chaney? A circus clown who doesn’t play a song the same way twice because he’s busy doing tricks… being compared to Peart and Portnoy… that’s a joke, right?
In all fairness, Zoltan's drumming is a lot better than Peart's nowadays.
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CrankerBait wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 6:44 am I wouldn't discount visa issues. (Canada is tough on DUI convictions, but not so much on drug possession, so maybe this is more of an issue for the United States?
It wasn't just some drug possession, he put out a hit for murder for chrissake and Canada still let him in to record the album....

Saw a funny description of Rudd by a AC/DC member the other day: Rudd is one of the few people on earth who has more helicopters than teeth!
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El Vampiro Blanco wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:45 am
CrankerBait wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 6:44 am I wouldn't discount visa issues. (Canada is tough on DUI convictions, but not so much on drug possession, so maybe this is more of an issue for the United States?
It wasn't just some drug possession, he put out a hit for murder for chrissake and Canada still let him in to record the album....

Saw a funny description of Rudd by a AC/DC member the other day: Rudd is one of the few people on earth who has more helicopters than teeth!
I know about the charges, but the more serious, violent ones were dropped while he agreed to plead guilty to the possession ones. Those alone might not be enough to keep him out of Canada, whereas just admitting past marijuana use has gotten some people turned around when trying to enter America. Whether or not he had to apply for a Canadian special entry permit with conditions, I don't know, but that's one way some people can get around convictions that would otherwise deny them entry.

That's a great quote about Phil's teeth and helicopters. Amazing how he always seemed able to keep a cigarette going while playing the drums with so few teeth to help him along.
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He's cool in Canada - They had him there to record after SHTfan. All good on that front.

Not sure what the reason is.

I highly doubt it is legal.
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He's almost 70 and his body is probably ravaged at this point. All of these bands are hanging on by a thread from night to night. I'm wondering how Brian at age 75 is going to make it through the show.
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