Maybe this isn’t an accurate perception, but it seems to me that every year there’s a string of stories about American festivals that wind up being debacles.
From fly by night promoters who are either scam artists or well-meaning incompetents, to oversold and undersold shows, to horrible locations and limited planning around seasonal weather patterns, there always seems to be a string of high profile shit-shows.
By comparison, the European festival season always seems to go off pretty smoothly, barring the mud at Glastonbury.
What’s the deal?
What is it with festivals in the US?
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What is it with festivals in the US?
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Re: What is it with festivals in the US?
Yeah, all you guys do is throw beer bottles full of piss at the talent... y'know, basic tomfoolery.
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Re: What is it with festivals in the US?
I’m not British, or from Europe. And the throwing shit is definitely lame, but the festivals it happens at still tend to run fairly smoothly.Bono Nettencourt wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2023 2:47 pm Yeah, all you guys do is throw beer bottles full of piss at the talent... y'know, basic tomfoolery.
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Re: What is it with festivals in the US?
A lot of band’s feature broke or nearly broke members who are easy marks for shady promoters to take advantage of.
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Re: What is it with festivals in the US?
The lion’s share of the organizers’ priority and focus is spent acquiring and advertising the biggest bands possible, to drive revenue.
A distant afterthought is the quality and safety of the actual festival experience.
A distant afterthought is the quality and safety of the actual festival experience.
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Re: What is it with festivals in the US?
Great question
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Patton could sing anything that those other singers have ever sang. But none of them could sing Patton's catalog.
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Dude - did you, like, just get ass-fucked by Patton or something? You're really off the hook here.
Patton could sing anything that those other singers have ever sang. But none of them could sing Patton's catalog.
Itwalksamongus wrote:
Dude - did you, like, just get ass-fucked by Patton or something? You're really off the hook here.
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RockSkar wrote:
Patton could sing anything that those other singers have ever sang. But none of them could sing Patton's catalog.
Itwalksamongus wrote:
Dude - did you, like, just get ass-fucked by Patton or something? You're really off the hook here.
Patton could sing anything that those other singers have ever sang. But none of them could sing Patton's catalog.
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Dude - did you, like, just get ass-fucked by Patton or something? You're really off the hook here.
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Re: What is it with festivals in the US?
demolition23 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2023 2:39 pm Maybe this isn’t an accurate perception, but it seems to me that every year there’s a string of stories about American festivals that wind up being debacles.
From fly by night promoters who are either scam artists or well-meaning incompetents, to oversold and undersold shows, to horrible locations and limited planning around seasonal weather patterns, there always seems to be a string of high profile shit-shows.
By comparison, the European festival season always seems to go off pretty smoothly, barring the mud at Glastonbury.
What’s the deal?
Because the USA is still a relatively new and unregulated economy , and if you look at its history it’s been built on snake oil sales and money churches.
Re: What is it with festivals in the US?
All big European festivals are organised by huge promotors ala Live Nation.
Those festivals in the US that go tits up all seem to have over-ambitious individuals who are in way over their heads. No organic growth, but attempting something way too expensive without any experience nor business plan.
Those festivals in the US that go tits up all seem to have over-ambitious individuals who are in way over their heads. No organic growth, but attempting something way too expensive without any experience nor business plan.
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Re: What is it with festivals in the US?
Not sure what you're talking about. The U.S. has a history of successful, trouble-free music festivals, dating back to Woodstock and Altamont.
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Re: What is it with festivals in the US?
Fake news. What rock are u living underMister Freeze wrote: ↑Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:10 am Not sure what you're talking about. The U.S. has a history of successful, trouble-free music festivals, dating back to Woodstock and Altamont.
RockSkar wrote:
Patton could sing anything that those other singers have ever sang. But none of them could sing Patton's catalog.
Itwalksamongus wrote:
Dude - did you, like, just get ass-fucked by Patton or something? You're really off the hook here.
Patton could sing anything that those other singers have ever sang. But none of them could sing Patton's catalog.
Itwalksamongus wrote:
Dude - did you, like, just get ass-fucked by Patton or something? You're really off the hook here.