BLOW … Don Dokken on his classic era band members: “George, Jeff and Mick were Coked up out of Their Minds”

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Great interview! I had no idea that the rest of the band were junkies....
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Don was all in it too.
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Tommy2Tone84 wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2023 3:46 pm Don was all in it too.
how you know?
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Bands were doing coke in the 80s?

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Don always talks about Alone Again & how the record company wanted the big ballad.
Is this just revisionist history as the album was released in 84, what ballads were hits that made labels "need them"
Alone Again was one of the first ballads "hits" as it was a full year before Home Sweet Home, which many consider to be the song that started the ballad hit era.
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Yeah sounds like an embellishment of the old "the A&R man said 'I don't hear a single'" story, spun to make his B-band sound more A-level.
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greengoblinrulz wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2023 5:32 pm Don always talks about Alone Again & how the record company wanted the big ballad.
Is this just revisionist history as the album was released in 84, what ballads were hits that made labels "need them"
Alone Again was one of the first ballads "hits" as it was a full year before Home Sweet Home, which many consider to be the song that started the ballad hit era.
Well, it seems he’d be more inclined to take credit for the trend rather than blame it on the suits
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DangerZone wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2023 7:46 pm
greengoblinrulz wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2023 5:32 pm Don always talks about Alone Again & how the record company wanted the big ballad.
Is this just revisionist history as the album was released in 84, what ballads were hits that made labels "need them"
Alone Again was one of the first ballads "hits" as it was a full year before Home Sweet Home, which many consider to be the song that started the ballad hit era.
Well, it seems he’d be more inclined to take credit for the trend rather than blame it on the suits
Considering most of the hair bands were able to cross over to the Hot 100 and get the biggest portion of their 15 minutes by putting out a ballad, I'm not surprised.
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Most bands had at least one good ballad, hit or not.

Alone Again fucking sucks.
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I need to see a breakdown of how much they were consuming when they were making albums. For their hit songs did they consume more or less than average?
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Old_Man_Dokken wrote: Sun Sep 24, 2023 9:16 pm I need to see a breakdown of how much they were consuming when they were making albums. For their hit songs did they consume more or less than average?


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greengoblinrulz wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2023 5:32 pm Don always talks about Alone Again & how the record company wanted the big ballad.
Is this just revisionist history as the album was released in 84, what ballads were hits that made labels "need them"
Alone Again was one of the first ballads "hits" as it was a full year before Home Sweet Home, which many consider to be the song that started the ballad hit era.
To be fair, Scorpions, "Still Loving You", and Night Ranger's, "Sister Christian" were the huge pop ballads being blasted on MTV in '84, along with, "Alone Again". There were some precursors to, "Home Sweet Home", for sure.
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SeniorGrande wrote: Sun Sep 24, 2023 6:55 pm Most bands had at least one good ballad, hit or not.

Alone Again fucking sucks.
George did good. Don... :roll:
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Neil Diamond Dave wrote: Mon Sep 25, 2023 1:52 pm
greengoblinrulz wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2023 5:32 pm Don always talks about Alone Again & how the record company wanted the big ballad.
Is this just revisionist history as the album was released in 84, what ballads were hits that made labels "need them"
Alone Again was one of the first ballads "hits" as it was a full year before Home Sweet Home, which many consider to be the song that started the ballad hit era.
To be fair, Scorpions, "Still Loving You", and Night Ranger's, "Sister Christian" were the huge pop ballads being blasted on MTV in '84, along with, "Alone Again". There were some precursors to, "Home Sweet Home", for sure.
Christian was released March 84 (album Oct 83) so that predated Dokken & Love at Fist Sting was released March 84 & Dokken in Sept of that year
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Neil Diamond Dave wrote: Mon Sep 25, 2023 1:52 pm
greengoblinrulz wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2023 5:32 pm Don always talks about Alone Again & how the record company wanted the big ballad.
Is this just revisionist history as the album was released in 84, what ballads were hits that made labels "need them"
Alone Again was one of the first ballads "hits" as it was a full year before Home Sweet Home, which many consider to be the song that started the ballad hit era.
To be fair, Scorpions, "Still Loving You", and Night Ranger's, "Sister Christian" were the huge pop ballads being blasted on MTV in '84, along with, "Alone Again". There were some precursors to, "Home Sweet Home", for sure.
I would think that Foreigner, Styx and REO Speedwagon having ballads become big even before that set the ball in motion. Exposes bands to more markets and sells more records.
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The Stench wrote: Mon Sep 25, 2023 4:47 pm
Neil Diamond Dave wrote: Mon Sep 25, 2023 1:52 pm
greengoblinrulz wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2023 5:32 pm Don always talks about Alone Again & how the record company wanted the big ballad.
Is this just revisionist history as the album was released in 84, what ballads were hits that made labels "need them"
Alone Again was one of the first ballads "hits" as it was a full year before Home Sweet Home, which many consider to be the song that started the ballad hit era.
To be fair, Scorpions, "Still Loving You", and Night Ranger's, "Sister Christian" were the huge pop ballads being blasted on MTV in '84, along with, "Alone Again". There were some precursors to, "Home Sweet Home", for sure.
I would think that Foreigner, Styx and REO Speedwagon having ballads become big even before that set the ball in motion. Exposes bands to more markets and sells more records.
And, of course, it all began with "Dream On" being the first real hard rock ballad. And everyone knows Aero were the kings of hard rock balladry: "Dream On", "You See Me Crying", "Angel", "What It Takes", "Amazing", "I Don't Wanna Miss a Thing", etc.
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Bono Nettencourt wrote: Mon Sep 25, 2023 2:11 pm
SeniorGrande wrote: Sun Sep 24, 2023 6:55 pm Most bands had at least one good ballad, hit or not.

Alone Again fucking sucks.
George did good. Don... :roll:
I think I've said this before, but Don's voice is so pussy that he makes Mike Tramp sound Like Chris Barnes.
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one difference in his story here with alone again is that the story i'd heard (from him) ages ago was that alone again was written yearssss before when he was like 18 or something, and was laying in a box of old tapes that he gave to the producer to look through. The producer found it and said "this is a hit!" or whatever and they recorded it. Pretty different than the story in this article.
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Fuck I love how the one guy in every band who didn't do drugs always thinks that the other 75% of the band were the problem :lol:

IMHO, it's that one guy with the stick up his ass who fucks things up for everybody.
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The ballad he references is Vandenberg’s Burning Heart. George pretty much lifted the riff and the solo to make Alone Again.
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Don then recalls the Monsters of Rock Tour from 1988 and says; “George would go into the solo, and the cameras would swing over, and there is no George on stage… I am looking around, where the hell is George? I mean, I hear him playing, but he’s not on stage. Because he would walk behind his Marshall’s (amplifier cabinets) and his roadie was giving him lines of coke. That drove me crazy.”
That's my main memory of the Monsters of Rock. No one could match Metallica obviously, but I thought Dokken just killed it. Except for the encore. Everyone was on stage except Lynch, who we could hear. Don looked just furious. Lynch finished the show on stage, but there was definitely that weird moment. You knew the end was near.
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Frigo Fantom wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 4:43 pm The ballad he references is Vandenberg’s Burning Heart. George pretty much lifted the riff and the solo to make Alone Again.
That Vandenberg song sounds more like ‘the beginning’ by ELP
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Nahhh...it is 100% "Ready for love" by Bad Company.
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greengoblinrulz wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2023 5:32 pm Don always talks about Alone Again & how the record company wanted the big ballad.
Is this just revisionist history as the album was released in 84, what ballads were hits that made labels "need them"
Alone Again was one of the first ballads "hits" as it was a full year before Home Sweet Home, which many consider to be the song that started the ballad hit era.

It’s not so much revisionist as it’s Don lying. He’s always lied.

Alone Again wasn’t a big hit at all that I remember. I remember Lep's Too Late For Love and BOTHB more than I remember Alone Again. I remember Journey’s ballads more than I do Dokken’s entire career pre ULAK.

Dokken were nothing but a charity case. Don was like 37 and George was 34 when T&N came out. Old folks home week.
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Tommy2Tone84 wrote: Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:39 am
Dokken were nothing but a charity case. Don was like 37 and George was 34 when T&N came out. Old folks home week.
You prob exaggerated for effect but they were 30-31 in 1984. Not even the oldest successful hair band guys. Alec Jon Such, Mick Mars, Rudy Sarzo and Tico Torres are older than anyone in Dokken. And one member of Vixen was the same age as DD.. but their album came out in 1988.
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DangerZone wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2023 4:22 pm
Tommy2Tone84 wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2023 3:46 pm Don was all in it too.
how you know?
I'm not buying Don only did coke once in his life either. He's obviously pissed about losing that lawsuit and will slam his former band mates every chance he gets. If I were them I'd be worried he's going to tell all their embarrassing secrets. And make some shit up.
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wrote: Dokken were nothing but a charity case.
did you buy them something to eat?
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