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Clinton and Trump are named in Jeffrey Epstein documents, no wrongdoing alleged
WASHINGTON − Former Presidents Bill Clinton and Donald Trump are mentioned in newly unsealed Jeffrey Epstein-related court documents, but they are not accused of any wrongdoing involving the disgraced sex trafficking financier.
Clinton, who sometimes flew aboard Epstein's private plane, is listed repeatedly in the documents because he was the topic of an argument over the credibility of a witness who said she saw the former president when he was a guest of Epstein.
Trump's name appears in a document in which Epstein is quoted as saying he would invite the then-real estate mogul to a casino. In another document, an unnamed witness said she was never asked to engage in sexual relations with Trump.
The unsealed documents also list prominent individuals who have denied accusations against them, including Prince Andrew of Great Britain and prominent litigator Alan Dershowitz.
"The Epstein list and guilt by association," Dershowitz said on the social media platform X (formerly Twitter).
All of the accused have denied allegations of wrongdoing in connection with Epstein. Most of the documents unsealed late Wednesday were part of a lawsuit brought by one of Epstein's victims.
One of Giuffre's attorneys, Sigrid McCawley, said more needs to be known about "who enabled and facilitated" Epstein's trafficking network, and that survivors of his abuse deserve more justice.
"The public interest must still be served in learning more about the scale and scope of Epstein's racket to further the important goal of shutting down sex trafficking wherever it exists and holding more to account," McCawley said. "The unsealing of these documents gets us closer to that goal."
Other names include sex abuse victims, litigation witnesses, and Epstein associates and employees. Many of the names had only a tangential connection to the financier, who was accused of operating an international sex trafficking ring targeting underage girls. Some are now deceased.
David Ring, a California-based trial lawyer who has represented many sexual abuse victims, said public release of information can help victims gain closure. He noted that victims are often restricted by civil settlements from talking about the abuse they experienced.
"Anytime that there's a spotlight that's shown on the perpetrator and his circle of friends and what went on there, I think that's a good thing," Ring said. "It gives the victims a lot of closure, frankly, instead of just secrecy where they're not even allowed to talk about it."
Previous releases listed Clinton and former President Donald Trump as passengers on Epstein's private plane, but neither has been accused of wrongdoing.
For years, supporters of Trump and Clinton have accused one another of more involvement with Epstein; but nothing in the new documents backs up these claims.
U.S. District Judge Loretta A. Preska ordered the unsealing of more documents in mid-December, noting that most of the information was already public and that people named in the documents had not objected to their release.
Hours before the release, Judge Preska wrote Wednesday that two persons identified as "Doe 107" and "Doe 110" had asked that their names remain under seal, pending future court action.
The documents stem from a now-settled 2015 lawsuit filed by Virginia Giuffre, who accused Epstein and partner Ghislaine Maxwell of directing her involvement with prominent men.
In pretrial litigation, Maxwell said Giuffre lied about about seeing Clinton on Epstein's private island, and that this assertion undercut her credibility in general. This dispute is the reason the former president's name pops up so frequently in the documents.
Clinton's office referred reporters a 2019 statement that said the former president "knows nothing about the terrible crimes Jeffrey Epstein pleaded guilty to in Florida some years ago, or those with which he has been recently charged in New York."
The statement said Clinton has never been to Epstein's island, and had "not spoken to Epstein in well over a decade.”
The Miami Herald intervened for access to these records in 2018. This was the eighth round of releases involving the Epstein case.
Epstein died by suicide in a Manhattan jail cell in 2019.
Maxwell is serving a 20-year prison sentence for helping Epstein sexually abuse underage girls.
Maxwell’s attorney, Arthur Aidala, told NewsNation that she probably would have little to say about the latest Epstein document release.
“I don’t think she has anything to talk about, except, maybe, that if you look at this crime − this overall crime − it’s all about men abusing women for a long period of time," he said. "And it’s only one person in jail − a woman."
In a written statement, Aidala and attorney Diana Fabi Samson said the documents have no bearing on Maxwell's appeal.
The statement said "Ghislaine’s focus is on the upcoming appellate argument asking for her entire case to dismissed ... She has consistently and vehemently maintained her innocence."
> https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 086945007/'
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Clinton and Trump are named in Jeffrey Epstein documents, no wrongdoing alleged
WASHINGTON − Former Presidents Bill Clinton and Donald Trump are mentioned in newly unsealed Jeffrey Epstein-related court documents, but they are not accused of any wrongdoing involving the disgraced sex trafficking financier.
Clinton, who sometimes flew aboard Epstein's private plane, is listed repeatedly in the documents because he was the topic of an argument over the credibility of a witness who said she saw the former president when he was a guest of Epstein.
Trump's name appears in a document in which Epstein is quoted as saying he would invite the then-real estate mogul to a casino. In another document, an unnamed witness said she was never asked to engage in sexual relations with Trump.
The unsealed documents also list prominent individuals who have denied accusations against them, including Prince Andrew of Great Britain and prominent litigator Alan Dershowitz.
"The Epstein list and guilt by association," Dershowitz said on the social media platform X (formerly Twitter).
All of the accused have denied allegations of wrongdoing in connection with Epstein. Most of the documents unsealed late Wednesday were part of a lawsuit brought by one of Epstein's victims.
One of Giuffre's attorneys, Sigrid McCawley, said more needs to be known about "who enabled and facilitated" Epstein's trafficking network, and that survivors of his abuse deserve more justice.
"The public interest must still be served in learning more about the scale and scope of Epstein's racket to further the important goal of shutting down sex trafficking wherever it exists and holding more to account," McCawley said. "The unsealing of these documents gets us closer to that goal."
Other names include sex abuse victims, litigation witnesses, and Epstein associates and employees. Many of the names had only a tangential connection to the financier, who was accused of operating an international sex trafficking ring targeting underage girls. Some are now deceased.
David Ring, a California-based trial lawyer who has represented many sexual abuse victims, said public release of information can help victims gain closure. He noted that victims are often restricted by civil settlements from talking about the abuse they experienced.
"Anytime that there's a spotlight that's shown on the perpetrator and his circle of friends and what went on there, I think that's a good thing," Ring said. "It gives the victims a lot of closure, frankly, instead of just secrecy where they're not even allowed to talk about it."
Previous releases listed Clinton and former President Donald Trump as passengers on Epstein's private plane, but neither has been accused of wrongdoing.
For years, supporters of Trump and Clinton have accused one another of more involvement with Epstein; but nothing in the new documents backs up these claims.
U.S. District Judge Loretta A. Preska ordered the unsealing of more documents in mid-December, noting that most of the information was already public and that people named in the documents had not objected to their release.
Hours before the release, Judge Preska wrote Wednesday that two persons identified as "Doe 107" and "Doe 110" had asked that their names remain under seal, pending future court action.
The documents stem from a now-settled 2015 lawsuit filed by Virginia Giuffre, who accused Epstein and partner Ghislaine Maxwell of directing her involvement with prominent men.
In pretrial litigation, Maxwell said Giuffre lied about about seeing Clinton on Epstein's private island, and that this assertion undercut her credibility in general. This dispute is the reason the former president's name pops up so frequently in the documents.
Clinton's office referred reporters a 2019 statement that said the former president "knows nothing about the terrible crimes Jeffrey Epstein pleaded guilty to in Florida some years ago, or those with which he has been recently charged in New York."
The statement said Clinton has never been to Epstein's island, and had "not spoken to Epstein in well over a decade.”
The Miami Herald intervened for access to these records in 2018. This was the eighth round of releases involving the Epstein case.
Epstein died by suicide in a Manhattan jail cell in 2019.
Maxwell is serving a 20-year prison sentence for helping Epstein sexually abuse underage girls.
Maxwell’s attorney, Arthur Aidala, told NewsNation that she probably would have little to say about the latest Epstein document release.
“I don’t think she has anything to talk about, except, maybe, that if you look at this crime − this overall crime − it’s all about men abusing women for a long period of time," he said. "And it’s only one person in jail − a woman."
In a written statement, Aidala and attorney Diana Fabi Samson said the documents have no bearing on Maxwell's appeal.
The statement said "Ghislaine’s focus is on the upcoming appellate argument asking for her entire case to dismissed ... She has consistently and vehemently maintained her innocence."
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Why was my post deleted about the list being moved to January 22?
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I didn't read that article, but I read somewhere where Epstein's brother said that Epstein had told him that if people knew what he knew about Trump and Clinton the 2016 election would have been cancelled.
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Remember the rule: anyone that MAGAtards don’t like is on that list and belongs in prison or the electric chair, and anyone that MAGAtards DO like is nowhere near that list and is Incapable of any sort of wrongdoing. Seriously, I’m a lil surprised the MAGA dolts aren’t making a huge excited noise right now as they previously were about this. I guess they’re more concerned with their boy Donnie getting left off the Colorado and Maine primary ballots.
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Why do you post stupid shit like this?dmbrocker wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:52 pm Remember the rule: anyone that MAGAtards don’t like is on that list and belongs in prison or the electric chair, and anyone that MAGAtards DO like is nowhere near that list and is Incapable of any sort of wrongdoing. Seriously, I’m a lil surprised the MAGA dolts aren’t making a huge excited noise right now as they previously were about this. I guess they’re more concerned with their boy Donnie getting left off the Colorado and Maine primary ballots.
You seem to be an intelligent person.
This is gonna be the reaction from both “sides”
I hope nether Trump or Biden run.
Trump can’t shut up and Biden is literally not fit mentally
I hope we move on to a younger, open minded president with real solutions to real problems to all people, not just their party, whichever it night be.
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For the record, I’m no fan of Biden, but if it comes down to him and Trump I’ll vote Sleepy Joe over Insurrectionist Donnie any day. And who are you kidding? Just months ago MAGAs couldn’t shut up about wanting to see the Epstein client list, and now? Barely a peep.VinnieVincentsVag wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:03 pmWhy do you post stupid shit like this?dmbrocker wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:52 pm Remember the rule: anyone that MAGAtards don’t like is on that list and belongs in prison or the electric chair, and anyone that MAGAtards DO like is nowhere near that list and is Incapable of any sort of wrongdoing. Seriously, I’m a lil surprised the MAGA dolts aren’t making a huge excited noise right now as they previously were about this. I guess they’re more concerned with their boy Donnie getting left off the Colorado and Maine primary ballots.
You seem to be an intelligent person.
This is gonna be the reaction from both “sides”
I hope nether Trump or Biden run.
Trump can’t shut up and Biden is literally not fit mentally
I hope we move on to a younger, open minded president with real solutions to real problems to all people, not just their party, whichever it night be.
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I guess the fact that this stupid side show shit really affects your life, bums me outdmbrocker wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:12 pmFor the record, I’m no fan of Biden, but if it comes down to him and Trump I’ll vote Sleepy Joe over Insurrectionist Donnie any day. And who are you kidding? Just months ago MAGAs couldn’t shut up about wanting to see the Epstein client list, and now? Barely a peep.VinnieVincentsVag wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:03 pmWhy do you post stupid shit like this?dmbrocker wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:52 pm Remember the rule: anyone that MAGAtards don’t like is on that list and belongs in prison or the electric chair, and anyone that MAGAtards DO like is nowhere near that list and is Incapable of any sort of wrongdoing. Seriously, I’m a lil surprised the MAGA dolts aren’t making a huge excited noise right now as they previously were about this. I guess they’re more concerned with their boy Donnie getting left off the Colorado and Maine primary ballots.
You seem to be an intelligent person.
This is gonna be the reaction from both “sides”
I hope nether Trump or Biden run.
Trump can’t shut up and Biden is literally not fit mentally
I hope we move on to a younger, open minded president with real solutions to real problems to all people, not just their party, whichever it night be.
Best to you and yours
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No clue what you're talking about!?ParaDime77 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:42 pm Why was my post deleted about the list being moved to January 22?
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It’s stupid, but it’s no less shocking. These are the people who are actively trying to overthrow democracy in order to elect a failed billionaire-turned-powermad tyrant, and you just expect us to ignore that they’re doing this and move on? Not likely.VinnieVincentsVag wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:19 pmI guess the fact that this stupid side show shit really affects your life, bums me outdmbrocker wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:12 pmFor the record, I’m no fan of Biden, but if it comes down to him and Trump I’ll vote Sleepy Joe over Insurrectionist Donnie any day. And who are you kidding? Just months ago MAGAs couldn’t shut up about wanting to see the Epstein client list, and now? Barely a peep.VinnieVincentsVag wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:03 pm
Why do you post stupid shit like this?
You seem to be an intelligent person.
This is gonna be the reaction from both “sides”
I hope nether Trump or Biden run.
Trump can’t shut up and Biden is literally not fit mentally
I hope we move on to a younger, open minded president with real solutions to real problems to all people, not just their party, whichever it night be.
Best to you and yours
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All good.dmbrocker wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:36 pmIt’s stupid, but it’s no less shocking. These are the people who are actively trying to overthrow democracy in order to elect a failed billionaire-turned-powermad tyrant, and you just expect us to ignore that they’re doing this and move on? Not likely.VinnieVincentsVag wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:19 pmI guess the fact that this stupid side show shit really affects your life, bums me outdmbrocker wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:12 pm
For the record, I’m no fan of Biden, but if it comes down to him and Trump I’ll vote Sleepy Joe over Insurrectionist Donnie any day. And who are you kidding? Just months ago MAGAs couldn’t shut up about wanting to see the Epstein client list, and now? Barely a peep.
Best to you and yours
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I’m just tired of division by party lines, or one idiot over another.
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No posts were deleted. I am the only one who can do it, and I didn't. I haven't even logged on for a week.ParaDime77 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:42 pm Why was my post deleted about the list being moved to January 22?
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We had one. He served 2 terms. His name was Barack Obama. Remember him?VinnieVincentsVag wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:03 pmWhy do you post stupid shit like this?dmbrocker wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:52 pm Remember the rule: anyone that MAGAtards don’t like is on that list and belongs in prison or the electric chair, and anyone that MAGAtards DO like is nowhere near that list and is Incapable of any sort of wrongdoing. Seriously, I’m a lil surprised the MAGA dolts aren’t making a huge excited noise right now as they previously were about this. I guess they’re more concerned with their boy Donnie getting left off the Colorado and Maine primary ballots.
You seem to be an intelligent person.
This is gonna be the reaction from both “sides”
I hope nether Trump or Biden run.
Trump can’t shut up and Biden is literally not fit mentally
I hope we move on to a younger, open minded president with real solutions to real problems to all people, not just their party, whichever it night be.
Biden is not mentally fit??? Compared to trump? Gimme a break!
OK so a younger, more open minded candidate, who would you suggest?
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The list of Jericho is a much better list
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You're the one who's already constructing a narrative before there's even been a day or two for the dust to settle on this. Who's the biased one now?dmbrocker wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:52 pm Remember the rule: anyone that MAGAtards don’t like is on that list and belongs in prison or the electric chair, and anyone that MAGAtards DO like is nowhere near that list and is Incapable of any sort of wrongdoing. Seriously, I’m a lil surprised the MAGA dolts aren’t making a huge excited noise right now as they previously were about this. I guess they’re more concerned with their boy Donnie getting left off the Colorado and Maine primary ballots.
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Yes, I am very much biased against a crazed demographic of right-wing extremists who want to actively overthrow democracy in the name of electing a powermad tyrant, thank you.aznsquirt wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 8:02 pmYou're the one who's already constructing a narrative before there's even been a day or two for the dust to settle on this. Who's the biased one now?dmbrocker wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:52 pm Remember the rule: anyone that MAGAtards don’t like is on that list and belongs in prison or the electric chair, and anyone that MAGAtards DO like is nowhere near that list and is Incapable of any sort of wrongdoing. Seriously, I’m a lil surprised the MAGA dolts aren’t making a huge excited noise right now as they previously were about this. I guess they’re more concerned with their boy Donnie getting left off the Colorado and Maine primary ballots.
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And she wanted Bob to ruff ruff her muff muff.Turner Coates wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 8:06 pm"Why didn't you ever introduce me to Bob Barker?
I heard he was hung like a horse."
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People seem to forget that Epstein was an influential investor - who used his money and access to do creepy stuff in private. Not everyone on that list knew what he was up to. But some definitely did. What’s gonna be difficult is getting a population that is addicted to conspiracy theories to understand the difference between ‘in his orbit’ and ‘in his creepy pedo club.’
Those with nothing to hide are gonna need to lay their lives bare to prove their innocence. Those who were up to evil shit are gonna make themselves conspicuous one way or another.
Those with nothing to hide are gonna need to lay their lives bare to prove their innocence. Those who were up to evil shit are gonna make themselves conspicuous one way or another.
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, and those who knew chose look away and ignored his and his friends actions for access to their money and influence.
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Yawn. We already knew who was going to be on the list well before the list was released.
And nothing will change. Young girls will be served up to rich assholes as long as there are rich assholes.
And nothing will change. Young girls will be served up to rich assholes as long as there are rich assholes.
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The narrative you speak of was constructed by a bunch conspiracy huffing (aka liars) conservatives 15 to 20 years ago with the “Lolita Express” bs and innuendos. Technically this all started back in 1993 when Bill Clinton beat Bush 41 and a bunch of entitled bitches like Newt felt their party was owed the White House for eternity after the 80s.aznsquirt wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 8:02 pmYou're the one who's already constructing a narrative before there's even been a day or two for the dust to settle on this. Who's the biased one now?dmbrocker wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:52 pm Remember the rule: anyone that MAGAtards don’t like is on that list and belongs in prison or the electric chair, and anyone that MAGAtards DO like is nowhere near that list and is Incapable of any sort of wrongdoing. Seriously, I’m a lil surprised the MAGA dolts aren’t making a huge excited noise right now as they previously were about this. I guess they’re more concerned with their boy Donnie getting left off the Colorado and Maine primary ballots.
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This ^ is why we all need to wake up and ask why "they" want all of us distracted/divided/contentious/etc.. over what is essentially a "pissing contest".VinnieVincentsVag wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:54 pmAll good.dmbrocker wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:36 pmIt’s stupid, but it’s no less shocking. These are the people who are actively trying to overthrow democracy in order to elect a failed billionaire-turned-powermad tyrant, and you just expect us to ignore that they’re doing this and move on? Not likely.VinnieVincentsVag wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:19 pm
I guess the fact that this stupid side show shit really affects your life, bums me out
Best to you and yours
I enjoy most of your comments.
I’m just tired of division by party lines, or one idiot over another.
Our Government and your political party does not give a single fuck about you, your family, or general well-being,...... however, your "neighbor" does. #TRUTH
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I reckon all songs are folk songs. I ain't never heard no horses singing any.