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I’m inclined to take Jeff’s word for it.
Don is a Nikki Sixx-level bullshit artist.
Jeff Pilson Slams Don Dokken Claim, "Desperate and Weak"
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Re: Jeff Pilson Slams Don Dokken Claim, "Desperate and Weak"
Probably the closest you'll ever hear Jeff get almost angry or talk the tiniest amount of shit But he's right. Why Don keeps being a bitter old curmudgeon makes no sense, unless he's trying to drum up a little attention for his new album (which is actually quite good), before his next tour. Either way, Jeff has always been the most level-headed of that band and he's a helluva musician himself. The new Revolution Saints album came out the other day and it's really good too.
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Re: Jeff Pilson Slams Don Dokken Claim, "Desperate and Weak"
Jeff’s an articulate and well reasoned guy.
Too bad he’s wasted in Foreigner.
Too bad he’s wasted in Foreigner.
Re: Jeff Pilson Slams Don Dokken Claim, "Desperate and Weak"
It's a money maker for him though. Probably a pretty sizeable one too. They still draw big crowds and he's been with them for what, 20 years now?
On top of that, he's got a bunch of side gigs: A handful of albums with him and George, End Machine, Black Swan (who doesnt get nearly as much love as they should), Revolution Saints, and he produces all of them. Dude just doesnt stop.
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Re: Jeff Pilson Slams Don Dokken Claim, "Desperate and Weak"
Shitfaced on booze or on other stuff?
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Re: Jeff Pilson Slams Don Dokken Claim, "Desperate and Weak"
Being in Foreigner may be his ticket into the Hall Of Fame.
I reckon all songs are folk songs. I ain't never heard no horses singing any.
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Re: Jeff Pilson Slams Don Dokken Claim, "Desperate and Weak"
To the ceremony at least, but only the guys who were in the band in the 70s/early 80s are on the induction list.Turner Coates wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 12:20 pmBeing in Foreigner may be his ticket into the Hall Of Fame.
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Re: Jeff Pilson Slams Don Dokken Claim, "Desperate and Weak"
Ahhh. I did not know that, but glad to hear it. Those are the guys who deserve it...the originators, not the replacements.woblinweebles wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 12:43 pmTo the ceremony at least, but only the guys who were in the band in the 70s/early 80s are on the induction list.Turner Coates wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 12:20 pm Being in Foreigner may be his ticket into the Hall Of Fame.
Just imagine how many people can (and do) claim they were in groups like The Drifters. There are hundreds of them.
I reckon all songs are folk songs. I ain't never heard no horses singing any.
Re: Jeff Pilson Slams Don Dokken Claim, "Desperate and Weak"
I’ve listened to a lot of Pilson interviews. He’s very intelligent and levelheaded. If he says greed and ego got in the way of Dokken’s success, then I believe him. Don says drugs hurt the cause, and he would be right about that too. I hope for one last album or tour but the odds look bad after this.
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Re: Jeff Pilson Slams Don Dokken Claim, "Desperate and Weak"
Intelligent and levelheaded is also how Tom Werman describes Jeff Pilson in his book.TeslaFan wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 3:41 pm I’ve listened to a lot of Pilson interviews. He’s very intelligent and levelheaded. If he says greed and ego got in the way of Dokken’s success, then I believe him. Don says drugs hurt the cause, and he would be right about that too. I hope for one last album or tour but the odds look bad after this.
Re: Jeff Pilson Slams Don Dokken Claim, "Desperate and Weak"
How is that book? I see it's new, and am interested for sure (total sucker for behind the scenes stuff...Ken Callait's book on the making of Rumours was excellent).Van Ailin' wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2024 10:22 amIntelligent and levelheaded is also how Tom Werman describes Jeff Pilson in his book.TeslaFan wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 3:41 pm I’ve listened to a lot of Pilson interviews. He’s very intelligent and levelheaded. If he says greed and ego got in the way of Dokken’s success, then I believe him. Don says drugs hurt the cause, and he would be right about that too. I hope for one last album or tour but the odds look bad after this.
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Re: Jeff Pilson Slams Don Dokken Claim, "Desperate and Weak"
It's "just OK." I did enjoy, but Tom really didn't go deep enough. I wanted to know more about the producer years, and while he covered his whole career, major groups he worked with warranted a chapter at most (and often less). I will say that he had some pretty interesting remarks bout Ted Nugent (might surprise you), and there was some good sludge on Motley Crue, Twisted Sister, and Poison. Also some positive remarks, particularly about Poison. It was worth reading, but I also sold it after reading. Not one I'll keep in my collection.RaceFan3 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 4:51 pmHow is that book? I see it's new, and am interested for sure (total sucker for behind the scenes stuff...Ken Callait's book on the making of Rumours was excellent).Van Ailin' wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2024 10:22 amIntelligent and levelheaded is also how Tom Werman describes Jeff Pilson in his book.TeslaFan wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 3:41 pm I’ve listened to a lot of Pilson interviews. He’s very intelligent and levelheaded. If he says greed and ego got in the way of Dokken’s success, then I believe him. Don says drugs hurt the cause, and he would be right about that too. I hope for one last album or tour but the odds look bad after this.