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We don't talk nearly enough about Savage Amusement

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 1:10 pm
by SchenkerFan
This is such a great record. Never got the hate for it. Some excellent deep cuts like Every Minute Everyday, Media Overkill and Walking on the Edge.

Re: We don't talk nearly enough about Savage Amusement

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 2:31 pm
by War_in_D
That and World Wide Live were the only albums I owned by them. Loved Savage Amusement. Saw that tour.

Re: We don't talk nearly enough about Savage Amusement

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 3:28 pm
by Ryan81
Was just watching their performance in Dortmund '83 (the best single day line up of metal bands ever assembled) and man...they were/are a great live act!
Matthias is a fucking machine. Especially when he wore the stripes. It's strange seeing somebody ripping leads like that on an Explorer.
I still don't get how Rudolph looks like he is just strumming his right hand way too fast, but yet it sounds like a totally different part is being played.
Finally, Klaus was/is an outstanding front man. Tremendous energy! Beings that World Wide Live is the greatest live album ever I guess it's not a surprise.
Yes, Savage Amusement was good, but I believe the criticism is that it sounds too polished. I actually liked Crazy World a little better. Neither of them is like the four punch combo of Lovedrive, Animal Magnatism, Blackout, and Love At First Sting.

Re: We don't talk nearly enough about Savage Amusement

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 3:30 pm
by Bono Nettencourt
Because...

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Re: We don't talk nearly enough about Savage Amusement

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 3:35 pm
by daveg
The problem is it was the follow up to Sting. It didn't have that big hit, and as noted, was too polished.

Rhythm of Love is great..but the rest is just fine. Not terrible, but the previous 4 albums had a ton of great songs on them.

Re: We don't talk nearly enough about Savage Amusement

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 4:33 pm
by War_in_D
Why did it take four years to release this?

Re: We don't talk nearly enough about Savage Amusement

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 4:37 pm
by Ozzy Stradlin
“Rhythm of Love” is an excellent song.

The rest of it pails in comparison to their previous 4 studio albums.

And let’s be honest - some of the lyrics are atrocious, even for the Scorps.

Examples:

“Without you, life’s like a song without music”

“For you - life is just like chess
If you don’t make the move - you lose the game like this”

:lol:

Re: We don't talk nearly enough about Savage Amusement

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 4:58 pm
by dmbrocker
"Rhythm of Love" is indeed a good first single. "Passion Rules the Game" and "Every Minute Every Day" are solid as well. It's not the Scorps' best album, but it's still fairly solid.

Re: We don't talk nearly enough about Savage Amusement

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 6:49 pm
by Mister Freeze
The peak of hair metal gloss. It was their Crazy Nights.

(And Crazy World was their Hot in the Shade. A whole lot of meh with a big hit power ballad to save it.)

Re: We don't talk nearly enough about Savage Amusement

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 1:49 am
by Love_Industry
Top 3 Scorps album, easily. Not as good as Lovedrive or Blackout but there's plenty of good stuff here. Don't Stop at the Top and Rhythm of Love are great, but the only song I really don't like on SA is "We Let It Rock... You Let It Roll".

That's right, I never liked Animal Magnetism, except for Make It Real it blows. And LAFS... it's close but I still prefer SA. There's no crap like The Same Thrill and Crossfire on SA. And most earlier and later albums, aren't very good save for a song here and there. Except maybe Humanity Hour 1 and Lonesome Crow :)

Re: We don't talk nearly enough about Savage Amusement

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 4:02 am
by TravisBicklesMohawk
A great record for a great time.

Was always happy to see the Scorps get some major success as they well deserved it.

Re: We don't talk nearly enough about Savage Amusement

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 8:43 am
by TREVERLAST
I never really liked Rhythm of Love when it came out. Now after Hair Nation played it to death I appreciate the drums on it. I remember me and my buddies playing the cassette a lot when it cam out & we went to see them on the Monster of Rock tour. But I also remember not liking it as much as the previous albums & we considered the first sing as being "wimpy".

Re: We don't talk nearly enough about Savage Amusement

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:38 am
by DemonFilth2001
Love_Industry wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 1:49 am Top 3 Scorps album, easily. Not as good as Lovedrive or Blackout but there's plenty of good stuff here. Don't Stop at the Top and Rhythm of Love are great, but the only song I really don't like on SA is "We Let It Rock... You Let It Roll".

That's right, I never liked Animal Magnetism, except for Make It Real it blows. And LAFS... it's close but I still prefer SA. There's no crap like The Same Thrill and Crossfire on SA. And most earlier and later albums, aren't very good save for a song here and there. Except maybe Humanity Hour 1 and Lonesome Crow :)
SA is good. I'd put it 5th. Right after the big 4.

Lonesome Crow is 100% trash.

Re: We don't talk nearly enough about Savage Amusement

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 1:39 pm
by p86
I’ve always loved Don’t Stop at the Top.

Re: We don't talk nearly enough about Savage Amusement

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:02 pm
by Bono Nettencourt
DemonFilth2001 wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:38 am
Love_Industry wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 1:49 am Top 3 Scorps album, easily. Not as good as Lovedrive or Blackout but there's plenty of good stuff here. Don't Stop at the Top and Rhythm of Love are great, but the only song I really don't like on SA is "We Let It Rock... You Let It Roll".

That's right, I never liked Animal Magnetism, except for Make It Real it blows. And LAFS... it's close but I still prefer SA. There's no crap like The Same Thrill and Crossfire on SA. And most earlier and later albums, aren't very good save for a song here and there. Except maybe Humanity Hour 1 and Lonesome Crow :)
SA is good. I'd put it 5th. Right after the big 4.
Which means it's not good.

Re: We don't talk nearly enough about Savage Amusement

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 6:40 am
by jhenders
The first 30 seconds of "Every Minute Every Day" are truly epic!

https://youtu.be/byc5_K3hDMc

Re: We don't talk nearly enough about Savage Amusement

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 7:56 pm
by Van Ailin'
Media Overkill and We Let It Rock are the only two good songs on the whole record. Even worse, it sounded worse than their prior 4 albums despite using the same producer. I remember being profoundly bored with this one as an 18-year-old.

Re: We don't talk nearly enough about Savage Amusement

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 7:58 pm
by Van Ailin'
Mister Freeze wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 6:49 pm The peak of hair metal gloss. It was their Crazy Nights.

(And Crazy World was their Hot in the Shade. A whole lot of meh with a big hit power ballad to save it.)
Crazy World was even worse than SA. I got off the train there. I just couldn't see eye to eye with the band anymore.

Re: We don't talk nearly enough about Savage Amusement

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 6:51 pm
by Metal Sludge
I like it.
Not my favorite Scorpions album, Animal Magnetism is my fave. But it's good.
I sure wish The Scorpions would tour, but it looks like just a Vegas residency.
I could probably do that.

Re: We don't talk nearly enough about Savage Amusement

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 12:15 pm
by SchenkerFan
Van Ailin' wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2024 7:58 pm
Mister Freeze wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 6:49 pm The peak of hair metal gloss. It was their Crazy Nights.

(And Crazy World was their Hot in the Shade. A whole lot of meh with a big hit power ballad to save it.)
Crazy World was even worse than SA. I got off the train there. I just couldn't see eye to eye with the band anymore.
Wiki states the following about Crazy World:

Wishing to distance themselves from the Savage Amusement style, the band separated from their long-time producer and "Sixth Scorpion", Dieter Dierks, replacing him with Keith Olsen when they returned to the studio in 1990. Crazy World was released that year and displayed a less polished sound

Less polished sound? I wonder what album they were listening to. When you want a less polished album, you don't get Keith Olsen.

Re: We don't talk nearly enough about Savage Amusement

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 12:26 pm
by Black Stuff
Van Ailin' wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2024 7:58 pm
Mister Freeze wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 6:49 pm The peak of hair metal gloss. It was their Crazy Nights.

(And Crazy World was their Hot in the Shade. A whole lot of meh with a big hit power ballad to save it.)
Crazy World was even worse than SA. I got off the train there. I just couldn't see eye to eye with the band anymore.
I see what you did there

Re: We don't talk nearly enough about Savage Amusement

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 12:45 pm
by Love_Industry
SchenkerFan wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2024 12:15 pm
Van Ailin' wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2024 7:58 pm
Mister Freeze wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 6:49 pm The peak of hair metal gloss. It was their Crazy Nights.

(And Crazy World was their Hot in the Shade. A whole lot of meh with a big hit power ballad to save it.)
Crazy World was even worse than SA. I got off the train there. I just couldn't see eye to eye with the band anymore.
Wiki states the following about Crazy World:

Wishing to distance themselves from the Savage Amusement style, the band separated from their long-time producer and "Sixth Scorpion", Dieter Dierks, replacing him with Keith Olsen when they returned to the studio in 1990. Crazy World was released that year and displayed a less polished sound

Less polished sound? I wonder what album they were listening to. When you want a less polished album, you don't get Keith Olsen.
.... and co-write half the album with Jim Vallance of Bryan Adams fame. Or were they thinking they would get the guy who wrote War Machine with Gene Simmons? :)
"Less Polished" would be Face the Heat, the next album. But it sucked too except for Alien Nation, a top 5 Scorps song.

Re: We don't talk nearly enough about Savage Amusement

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 10:44 am
by Ryan81
Isn't one of the women in the Rhythm Of Love video Matthias' wife? I think I heard it was the one that was just kind of laying there holding a whip. She had a huge rack! If that really is his wife then good job Matthias! That was a good video.

I'm kind of surprised that Believe In Love didn't do better for them. It was right in the middle of the power ballad era and it was indeed a power ballad. It had a good memorable chorus. It was every bit as good as ballads like Love Bites, I'll Be There For You, Don't Close Your Eyes, Don't Know What You Got, and Every Rose Has It's Thorn that were released around the same time. Yet it didn't do near as well as any of those songs. I like it much better than Wind Of Change.

Re: We don't talk nearly enough about Savage Amusement

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 3:22 pm
by War_in_D
Ryan81 wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 10:44 am Isn't one of the women in the Rhythm Of Love video Matthias' wife? I think I heard it was the one that was just kind of laying there holding a whip. She had a huge rack! If that really is his wife then good job Matthias! That was a good video.

I'm kind of surprised that Believe In Love didn't do better for them. It was right in the middle of the power ballad era and it was indeed a power ballad. It had a good memorable chorus. It was every bit as good as ballads like Love Bites, I'll Be There For You, Don't Close Your Eyes, Don't Know What You Got, and Every Rose Has It's Thorn that were released around the same time. Yet it didn't do near as well as any of those songs. I like it much better than Wind Of Change.
The video sucked. Who wanted to see a bunch of Russian boys in 1989? If ever? Babes...the video needed babes to be successful.

Re: We don't talk nearly enough about Savage Amusement

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 4:48 pm
by Don't Damn Me
Is that the band that has the highway patrol cop as a mascot, who's always putting bare-chested large breasted women in handcuffs?

Re: We don't talk nearly enough about Savage Amusement

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 10:35 pm
by Bono Nettencourt
Yeah. And he makes them smell gloves.

Re: We don't talk nearly enough about Savage Amusement

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 4:58 pm
by FOON
War_in_D wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 4:33 pm Why did it take four years to release this?
This. That was a lifetime back then. I remember buying it and being incredibly disappointed. That was it for me and Scorps.

Re: We don't talk nearly enough about Savage Amusement

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:28 am
by Bono Nettencourt
They were still touring LAFS when WWL came out, so it really only took 2 years.

Re: We don't talk nearly enough about Savage Amusement

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 3:54 pm
by pieceofme
DemonFilth2001 wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:38 am
Love_Industry wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 1:49 am Top 3 Scorps album, easily. Not as good as Lovedrive or Blackout but there's plenty of good stuff here. Don't Stop at the Top and Rhythm of Love are great, but the only song I really don't like on SA is "We Let It Rock... You Let It Roll".

That's right, I never liked Animal Magnetism, except for Make It Real it blows. And LAFS... it's close but I still prefer SA. There's no crap like The Same Thrill and Crossfire on SA. And most earlier and later albums, aren't very good save for a song here and there. Except maybe Humanity Hour 1 and Lonesome Crow :)
SA is good. I'd put it 5th. Right after the big 4.
My sentiments as well. Good album, but a step down from the previous 4.

Re: We don't talk nearly enough about Savage Amusement

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 5:42 pm
by King_Nothing
Not a lot to say when it's shit