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weak.This. Background vocals.Jason Jennifer Leigh wrote: ↑Fri Apr 19, 2024 9:14 am I don’t see it … she quits singing and the band keeps singing.
what you're hearing is commonly known in the biz as "background vocals" where other people on stage are actually singing either the same lyrics as the lead singer OR different vocals all together. when she pulls away you can't hear HER vocals.aznsquirt wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2024 1:14 pm I'm surprised by the responses, it's very obvious to me.
She can't take a break to switch guitars because she knows her voice is coming through.
If you look at when they sing "Cherry Bomb" together at 21 seconds, 29 seconds, 49 seconds, and 56 seconds, they all sound identical even though she's in various stages of pretending to sing.
But by far the most obvious moment is the line "Hello world, I'm your wild girl" at 51 seconds, particularly when she finally needs to get the guitar plugged in and struggles to do so and pulls away from the mic a couple of times. Her voice coming through the P.A. doesn't vary one bit.
Put your snark back in your pants and re-read my post.Kid-Wicked wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 5:45 pmwhat you're hearing is commonly known in the biz as "background vocals" where other people on stage are actually singing either the same lyrics as the lead singer OR different vocals all together. when she pulls away you can't hear HER vocals.aznsquirt wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2024 1:14 pm I'm surprised by the responses, it's very obvious to me.
She can't take a break to switch guitars because she knows her voice is coming through.
If you look at when they sing "Cherry Bomb" together at 21 seconds, 29 seconds, 49 seconds, and 56 seconds, they all sound identical even though she's in various stages of pretending to sing.
But by far the most obvious moment is the line "Hello world, I'm your wild girl" at 51 seconds, particularly when she finally needs to get the guitar plugged in and struggles to do so and pulls away from the mic a couple of times. Her voice coming through the P.A. doesn't vary one bit.
between 50-58 seconds she pulls away from the mic but is it far enough that her voice wouldn't be audible? when she's furthest away you can clearly hear "cherry bomb" bg. there's way more egregious examples of lip syncing than this.aznsquirt wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 6:26 pmPut your snark back in your pants and re-read my post.Kid-Wicked wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 5:45 pmwhat you're hearing is commonly known in the biz as "background vocals" where other people on stage are actually singing either the same lyrics as the lead singer OR different vocals all together. when she pulls away you can't hear HER vocals.aznsquirt wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2024 1:14 pm I'm surprised by the responses, it's very obvious to me.
She can't take a break to switch guitars because she knows her voice is coming through.
If you look at when they sing "Cherry Bomb" together at 21 seconds, 29 seconds, 49 seconds, and 56 seconds, they all sound identical even though she's in various stages of pretending to sing.
But by far the most obvious moment is the line "Hello world, I'm your wild girl" at 51 seconds, particularly when she finally needs to get the guitar plugged in and struggles to do so and pulls away from the mic a couple of times. Her voice coming through the P.A. doesn't vary one bit.
She's the only one singing the line ""Hello world, I'm your wild girl" line at 51 seconds, which is why I pointed to it as the most obvious moment.
Joan is professional enough to know that if she has to pull way from her mic, doing it while there's background vocals will hide it better than any other time, but she slips up on the "Hello world..." line because she's concerned with getting her guitar set up before the solo starts.
It's also obvious AF (especially to anyone who's ever been "in the biz") that she's lip-syncing during other portions, but that's by far the most obvious part.
That's why I keep pointing to the "Hello world, I'm your wild girl" line rather than the Cherry Bomb line. But, you're one of those people who's incapable of changing their opinion once they've planted their flag AND been a condescending douche about it, so there's no point in trying to argue further, you'll just keep out throwing random non-arguments like "there's way more egregious examples of lip syncing than this" as though they hold water.Kid-Wicked wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:56 pmbetween 50-58 seconds she pulls away from the mic but is it far enough that her voice wouldn't be audible? when she's furthest away you can clearly hear "cherry bomb" bg. there's way more egregious examples of lip syncing than this.aznsquirt wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 6:26 pmPut your snark back in your pants and re-read my post.Kid-Wicked wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 5:45 pm
what you're hearing is commonly known in the biz as "background vocals" where other people on stage are actually singing either the same lyrics as the lead singer OR different vocals all together. when she pulls away you can't hear HER vocals.
She's the only one singing the line ""Hello world, I'm your wild girl" line at 51 seconds, which is why I pointed to it as the most obvious moment.
Joan is professional enough to know that if she has to pull way from her mic, doing it while there's background vocals will hide it better than any other time, but she slips up on the "Hello world..." line because she's concerned with getting her guitar set up before the solo starts.
It's also obvious AF (especially to anyone who's ever been "in the biz") that she's lip-syncing during other portions, but that's by far the most obvious part.
lmao. I'm not even someone who cares much either way; but this one is hardly up for debate IMO.BernieTaupson wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:30 pm Lip synch deniers are so fucking irritating. They’re up there with conspiracy nuts.
They also typically don’t use upper case letters.
which falls in between 50-58 seconds. i don't think she was THAT far from the mic. maybe she isn't singing. i've never seen anyone trying so hard to hide it if she isn't. seems like nobody that fakes it gives a shit aboot hiding it.aznsquirt wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:40 pmThat's why I keep pointing to the "Hello world, I'm your wild girl" line rather than the Cherry Bomb line.Kid-Wicked wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:56 pmbetween 50-58 seconds she pulls away from the mic but is it far enough that her voice wouldn't be audible? when she's furthest away you can clearly hear "cherry bomb" bg. there's way more egregious examples of lip syncing than this.aznsquirt wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 6:26 pm
Put your snark back in your pants and re-read my post.
She's the only one singing the line ""Hello world, I'm your wild girl" line at 51 seconds, which is why I pointed to it as the most obvious moment.
Joan is professional enough to know that if she has to pull way from her mic, doing it while there's background vocals will hide it better than any other time, but she slips up on the "Hello world..." line because she's concerned with getting her guitar set up before the solo starts.
It's also obvious AF (especially to anyone who's ever been "in the biz") that she's lip-syncing during other portions, but that's by far the most obvious part.
I dunno, man. To me, the words "wild girl" are where it's not even in question to me. To not hear any variation in her voice there is so obvious.Kid-Wicked wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 10:55 pm which falls in between 50-58 seconds. i don't think she was THAT far from the mic. maybe she isn't singing. i've never seen anyone trying so hard to hide it if she isn't. seems like nobody that fakes it gives a shit aboot hiding it.
100%. A guitar swap is nearly seemless for seasoned techs/artists. She couldn't take the 10 seconds for the flip because her track would be obvious. Period.aznsquirt wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2024 1:14 pm I'm surprised by the responses, it's very obvious to me.
She can't take a break to switch guitars because she knows her voice is coming through.
If you look at when they sing "Cherry Bomb" together at 21 seconds, 29 seconds, 49 seconds, and 56 seconds, they all sound identical even though she's in various stages of pretending to sing.
But by far the most obvious moment is the line "Hello world, I'm your wild girl" at 51 seconds, particularly when she finally needs to get the guitar plugged in and struggles to do so and pulls away from the mic a couple of times. Her voice coming through the P.A. doesn't vary one bit.
no argument there. it even makes me hate john cougar's cherry bomb. lita insists on doing it too. i don't get it.aznsquirt wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:12 pmI dunno, man. To me, the words "wild girl" are where it's not even in question to me. To not hear any variation in her voice there is so obvious.Kid-Wicked wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 10:55 pm which falls in between 50-58 seconds. i don't think she was THAT far from the mic. maybe she isn't singing. i've never seen anyone trying so hard to hide it if she isn't. seems like nobody that fakes it gives a shit aboot hiding it.
Anyway, can we at least agree that holy fuck that song is fucking stupid and Kim Fowley lived far longer than he should have been allowed to?