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killeverything wrote:I think, like what I was harpin' on your Reds about it's their youth. They're probably exaughsted, mentally tired, etc. I know that's a very "Joe Buck-esque" level of half assed analysis and like Joe Buck, I didn't watch the games.

There is just a lot to be said for this occurence, especially for a team possibly lacking veteran leadership ( see: Seattle Mariners ). That's my guess.
Unfortunately, I don't get to watch the games either. Every year I say I'm going to buy the MLB Premium pkg. but every yr. I end up not doing so. I had a 2 wk. free trial w/it and it was GREAT, but that was a few yrs. back, when I had MUCH more time on my hands and could watch a TON of baseball. Unfortunately, that's no longer the case so I'm afraid it just wouldn't be worth it to me to pay for that pkg.

Could be exactly what you're saying. Would certainly be interested in hearing from someone who watches the Nats regularly to see what their personal observations have been with their recent string of L's. Pitching going to shit? Offense ran dry? Makes me wonder even more so as to what is going to happen to that team when they do indeed shut down Strausberg. Gio and Jordan are pretty darn good, but Edwin and (don't even remember their other starters name) are hit/miss from what I have been able to tell.

In 2010, I KNEW we were going out 1st rd. I had no doubts. I thought we might steal a game (2nd game we certainly should have), but we were not going past the Phillies. This year, I think this team could go all the way. I also think they could go out in the 1st round. But, most importantly of all, at this point...lets get there first. But this Reds team is miles better than the 2010 team IMO.

And Todd Frazier....just raked in 2 more runs w/a triple. Man has this guy been (unexpectedly) fucking awesome.
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And the Reds beat Wade Miley and Cueto becomes the 1st 17 game winner of the season. Great game from my Reds! Hopefully we'll get the sweep tomorrow.

In other news, in the Pirates defeat of the Cardinals earlier, Molina took a pretty brutal blow @ the plate from the Pirates Harrison. He looked seriously fucked up when he stood up after it happened, very wobbly and sorta "out of it". Possible concussion. While certainly not my favorite person in the game, I certainly do hope that he ends up being okay and isn't hurt too terribly bad. I don't wish that on any player. And of course, even though it was a completely "legal/clean" hit @ the plate, the Cards retaliated and hit Harrison. And in yet another "of course", Chris Carpenter was doing a lot of running off @ the mouth when Hurdle came out to argue. That fucking idiot, while being a GREAT pitcher when he is on his game (note; last yrs. run to and becoming the World Series winners, thanks in HUGE part to his pitching) is a fucking annoying little bitch. Always whining, bitching, complaining

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No concussion for Molina. An upper back/neck/shoulder strain. Not sure how bad the "strains" are, but at least he did not suffer a concussion.
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Monkey_Julius_Bowaffle_ wrote: Edited to add:

No concussion for Molina. An upper back/neck/shoulder strain. Not sure how bad the "strains" are, but at least he did not suffer a concussion.
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Why are people talking about Bobby Hebert regarding the hurricane? Apparently he made some comments on the radio yesterday that were entertaining?
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For the most fans of the Chicago Cubs haven't had much to cheer for or get emotionally invested in throughout the 2012 season. That has changed a little bit recently, though, as second baseman Darwin Barney's consectutive games errorless streak continued to grow and brought him closer to franchise and season-single records at his position.

The last time Barney was charged with an error was all the way back on April 17 in Miami. On Aug. 5, he officially became the franchise record holder for a single-season when he eclipsed Ryne Sandberg's 90-game errorless streak from 1989. Then, on Wednesday night, Barney set a new single-season mark for the National League with his 114th straight errorless game in the Cubs 3-1 loss to the Milwaukee Brewers, surpassing David Eckstein's record set with the San Diego Padres in 2010.


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The White Sox would like to thank the Red Sox for Kevin Youkilis. How you guys liking Zach Stewart?
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He did as much for the Sox last night as Youk did this season.
Might have cost them a shot at the playoffs with that performance.
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Tonight is Vin Scully bobblehead night at Dodger stadium. Vin walked out to throw the first pitch and a rainbow appeared. When he was done and went to the booth, the rainbow went away.

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No more rainbow:

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NeverSurrender wrote:Tonight is Vin Scully bobblehead night at Dodger stadium. Vin walked out to throw the first pitch and a rainbow appeared. When he was done and went to the booth, the rainbow went away.

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He had all his grandkids pass the ball to each other before he threw it to Donnie baseball.

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That's beautiful.

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Hey MonkeyJuliwhatever, you'll dig this:

John Dewan's Stat Of The Week

The Best Bullpens in Baseball

August 31, 2012

The Cincinnati Reds just recently took over the title of "Best Record in Baseball" from the Washington Nationals. It is, in no small part, due to also having the best bullpen in baseball (tied with Tampa Bay). Reds relievers have combined for a 2.76 ERA, led by Aroldis Chapman's microscopic mark of 1.27. Here are the five best team bullpen ERAs:

Best Bullpens (2012)
Team Bullpen ERA
Cincinnati 2.76
Tampa Bay 2.76
Oakland 2.83
Pittsburgh 2.94
Kansas City 3.03

It's no coincidence that the first four teams are all at least 10 games over .500.

The worst bullpens in baseball this year? The struggling New York Mets with a 4.84 bullpen ERA and the Houston Astros at 4.80.

By the way, the Nationals, with the second-best record in baseball, have the best MLB starting staff this year (3.27 ERA), followed by Tampa Bay's 3.49 (second in starter ERA and tied for first for the bullpen) and the Los Angeles Dodgers (3.52).

The Bill James Handbook 2013 will feature a complete listing of team starter and bullpen ERAs when it is released on November 1st.
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Lester was claimed off waivers today by an unknown team.
The Red Sox pulled him back.
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killeverything wrote:Hey MonkeyJuliwhatever, you'll dig this:

John Dewan's Stat Of The Week

The Best Bullpens in Baseball

August 31, 2012

The Cincinnati Reds just recently took over the title of "Best Record in Baseball" from the Washington Nationals. It is, in no small part, due to also having the best bullpen in baseball (tied with Tampa Bay). Reds relievers have combined for a 2.76 ERA, led by Aroldis Chapman's microscopic mark of 1.27. Here are the five best team bullpen ERAs:

Best Bullpens (2012)
Team Bullpen ERA
Cincinnati 2.76
Tampa Bay 2.76
Oakland 2.83
Pittsburgh 2.94
Kansas City 3.03

It's no coincidence that the first four teams are all at least 10 games over .500.

The worst bullpens in baseball this year? The struggling New York Mets with a 4.84 bullpen ERA and the Houston Astros at 4.80.

By the way, the Nationals, with the second-best record in baseball, have the best MLB starting staff this year (3.27 ERA), followed by Tampa Bay's 3.49 (second in starter ERA and tied for first for the bullpen) and the Los Angeles Dodgers (3.52).

The Bill James Handbook 2013 will feature a complete listing of team starter and bullpen ERAs when it is released on November 1st.
Chapman is absolutely the REAL DEAL. Absolutely no doubt in my mind about that. I'm REALLY torn on the whole "do we turn Chapman into a starter" (which I think IS the plan for next season) or "do we see if he can become one of THE all-time shut-em-down closers". I honestly don't know which I would rather see happen. He was meant to be a starter this season, as the Reds had signed Ryan Madson to be their closer and he ended up having to have TJ surgery. They tried Sean Marshall in the closer role for a while, but he couldn't handle it. So they decided they would go closer by committee. Tossed Chapman in a few times and he was so dominating, they left him there. He had a string of bad appearances (coinciding w/a shitload of crazy-assed personal turmoil that if you haven't heard about what all he went through there in a very short stretch of time, it's a pretty interesting read actually). After the dust settled, he became even MORE dominating than before. And he hasn't slowed down yet. The guy LOVES high-pressure situations. He CRAVES that shit. So yeah, he is def. the real deal.

As to the rest of the Reds BP, our "tied for best" #'s are a bit skewed IMO. We went through a stretch where our BP WAS absolutely dominating. But here as of late, maybe for the last month or a little better, there have def. been a few cracks appearing in the foundation. Ondrusek began struggling mightily (he got sent down to AAA). Alfredo Simon, an Orioles cast-off we picked up off of waivers at the beginning of the year has began to stink up the joint a bit here of late. When we picked him up, he stank the joint up his first few appearances and then he seemed to magically become totally dominating as a long reliever. I wondered if it was too good to be true (I mean, I don't think we really gave up anything for him, he was kinda one of those "trash-heap" pick-ups). He has reverted back to his beginning of the yr. form.

Sam LeCure is about 70/30. Which is pretty good. 70% of the time, he'll get the job done and about 30% of the time, he'll stink the joint up. He has one REALLY NASTY pitch. When he was that particular pitch working, ain't NOBODY hitting him. And this kid we got from Atlanta, JJ Hoover, man, I'm REALLY impressed with him. He stayed w/the big club for maybe a month or so when we first acquired him and was dealing. Sent him down to AAA and his #'s there were GREAT. Brought him back up recently and he is still posting up great #'s. I think he very well might be the real deal.

Sean Marshall is a lefty specialist. When he has his curve ball working, he is hard to hit. However, he has struggled from time to time throughout the season hanging the damn thing & when that happens, the hitters crush him and crush him big fucking time.

Bill Bray has completely sucked all season, I think he's back on the DL. Jose Arredondo has been hit/miss (but overall, he has been pretty decent).

And our acquirement of Jonathan Broxton seems to be working out quite well thus far. That big fucker (300lb.) can throw HARD. I guess you could say we sorta have a 2012 version of the 1990 WS Champion Reds "nasty boys" (as they were known as). The 2012 vs. would be Marshall, Broxton and Chapman.

The 1st 3 teams on the "best bp" list really seem to show that BP pitching really is an EXTREMELY important requirement. T.Bay has struggled with offense pretty bad at various points in the season, yet due to starters like Shields and Price + that tied for best BP, they're only 4.5 games back in the division and 2.5 back in the WC race. And since they have Longoria back, their offense has picked up some traction as well. I can definitely see them making it to the playoffs (though to be fair, the Orioles have proved to be the "real deal" as well - can they hold on through Sept.? That's a race I'm very interested in keeping track of).

And the A's? Who in the HELL saw that shit happening? Def. NOT me :shock: But as it stands, they're only 4 back from TX. and are currently tied w/the Orioles for the WC. Once again, pitching, pitching, pitching. Can they keep it up through Sept., even w/the loss of Colon? I think it's VERY possible. All the talking heads said around the All-Star break that they would start dropping and probably be buried by the end of Aug. Well, it's the end of Aug. and they're currently on a 7 game winning streak and showing no signs of slowing down, even with the loss of Colon. Once again, pitching, pitching, pitching.

The poor Pirates just can not seem to keep it together for a full 162. They're BP is still pretty dominate, but their starters appear to be wearing down. I'm actually really rooting for them to come out ahead of the Cardinals (a team whose BP has REALLY let them down big-time at various points throughout the season - & now w/the loss of Furcal, it's quite possible that they could enter into a free-fall. But to their credit, they are and for a long time have been a VERY resilient team - it NEVER surprises me when the Cardinals defy all odds and seemingly pull success out of their ass - and I DO NOT want them making the playoffs. Should they do so, they absolutely could pull off the same thing they did last yr. NEVER EVER bet against the Cardinals).

And the final team on the best BP list, K.City...I honestly haven't kept up w/them this season, so I'm not sure what their major malfunction has been. They've managed to pull into 3rd place in the AL Central, but there is a BIG divide between them and the 2nd place Tigers. And with the Reds acquiring Broxton, I wonder just how much of that BP era was due to his help before they traded him to us? I have no idea as to their starting rotation's effectiveness nor as to their offensive production.

Okay, I've probably already rambled on far longer than anyone has bothered reading (and that's okay, I amused myself typing out all that bullshit). But one last thing.....I think it would be cool as shit if the Oakland A's make it to the playoffs, along w/my Reds, and both clubs advance and make it to the World Series, and the Reds pound those fuckers in a 4 game sweep! 1990 all over again baby :!:
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You're as big a wreck as the Dodgers are.
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NeverSurrender wrote:Tonight is Vin Scully bobblehead night at Dodger stadium. Vin walked out to throw the first pitch and a rainbow appeared. When he was done and went to the booth, the rainbow went away.

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He had all his grandkids pass the ball to each other before he threw it to Donnie baseball.

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No more rainbow:

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I can't stand the Dodgers but if one of their games are on the sports channels up here I will keep it on just to listen to him.He's the best ever.
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Baseball America had Homer Bailey ranked as the #1 prospect for a while now. It seems he's putting it together finally. 1ER 9K...Dusty Baker's his manager...107 pitches :P
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Helluva day today!

Rangers top prospect Jurrickson Profar ( ranked #4 on the prospect list ) hit an HR in his first at bat. To my knowledge the last time that happened was '86. Will Clark off Nolan Ryan.

Jonathan Pappelbon was Jonathan Pappelbon. He gave up a walkoff to Chipper Jones ( his ninth overall ).

Jesus Montero in 8AB has hit 4HRs off Jerod Weaver. Dayum.

Adrian Gonzalez hit a two run walkoff double over the Dbacks. I thought he couldn't hit after the seventh unless his team was up by 10 runs. Who knew?

Detroit and Chicago are now tied for first. I think everybody expects Detroit to win the Central.

For losing Melky to PEDs the fucking Giants have been swinging the bat well. Former Longhorn Brandon Belt cracked a triple.
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killeverything wrote: Detroit and Chicago are now tied for first. I think everybody expects Detroit to win the Central.
The White Sox can do nothing right in that fucking ballpark.
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Adrian Gonzalez hit a two run walkoff double over the Dbacks. I thought he couldn't hit after the seventh unless his team was up by 10 runs. Who knew?
He leads MLB in batting average WRSP.
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Adrian Gonzalez hit a two run walkoff double over the Dbacks. I thought he couldn't hit after the seventh unless his team was up by 10 runs. Who knew?
He leads MLB in batting average WRSP.
What that number ( .398 ) doesn't tell you is when are the runners in scoring position that he hits in? The eighth? When the team is down, tied or way ahead? I'm gonna look for those numbers. I'm curious.
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The AL wild card race is gonna be interesting (and ultimately heartbreaking for me, because the Angels won't get one) and fun to watch. It's entirely possible that the Yankees could end up as the second wildcard, or not even in the playoffs at all. Love to see the Orioles doing so well.
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NeverSurrender wrote:You're as big a wreck as the Dodgers are.
Me? Just because I write short novel-length posts? Actually, life is pretty fucking good (right now at least). My "drug posts" might make me appear to be a wreck since I do imbibe (though less and less with each passing year) in a substance that most people consider nearly as bad as a death sentence itself, but the truth is, my life is actually pretty fucking great and this train hasn't derailed in any major way since June of 2006.

Your Dodgers OTOH, I don't know how big of a "wreck" they are as I don't really pay much attn. I know (keep in mind, this was a week ago tomorrow & I don't know their record in the past week) my uncle said that they had only won 1 game since they acquired the players from Boston, so maybe they are a wreck? I am currently watching them playing the Padres (whom have been playing pretty decent baseball as of late) right now and in the top of the 6th, it's tied at 1 - 1. Go Padres! The west-coast Reds!
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I'm just messing with you, man.
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killeverything wrote:Baseball America had Homer Bailey ranked as the #1 prospect for a while now. It seems he's putting it together finally. 1ER 9K...Dusty Baker's his manager...107 pitches :P
Meh, Bailey makes me nervous every damn time he takes the mound. You NEVER know what the hell to expect from him. One game, he looks un-friggin-hittable and the next game, he is noticeably worn out by the 4th inning/40 - 50 pitches thrown (whichever occurs first).

Regardless, our playoff rotation will almost definitely be Cueto, Latos & Arroyo (who has looked pretty damn good lately and I actually trust FAR more than Bailey). Bailey and Leake are the exact same for me. I NEVER trust either of them, but often-times this season, they have certainly both left me pleasantly surprised.

I remember not too long ago, Albert Pujols said that when Bailey was on his game, he was quite possibly the toughest pitcher that he had ever faced. If Bailey was "on his game" much more consistently, that would be GREAT. Cause he has the stuff, no doubt. But that "stuff", far too often just ain't working.

Not quite sure what you're getting at by the 107 pitch count observation? You really think that's too many pitches? Or what (maybe I'm taking that wrong, but when you threw in the Dusty Baker is his mgr. comment, it made me wonder)? Regardless of what you meant (and maybe it was just a general comment per the game/pitching performance you were mentioning, but I'm gonna say it anyways and that is that personally, I think this whole 100 pitch-count as a general rule thing is a bunch of shit. Often times in the past decades, 100 pitches and the fucking guy was just getting "warmed up". Now, a pitcher surpasses that mark in a game and you'd think they were being observed w/each subsequent pitch so that their arms don't break and fall off like a fucking china doll or something. Oh well, it's not something that is likely to change since becoming the standard, so my opinion means less than a big pile of shit....
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NeverSurrender wrote:I'm just messing with you, man.
Oh I could actually see why someone WOULD think I was a bit of a "wreck", totally. I stream-of-consciousness these big, long assed posts that I'm fully aware that no one actually bothers reading, but it passes time (ESPECIALLY when I'm stuck in a hotel room for a night or two - something that is an unfortunate but necessary evil due to the industry I am in).

The biggest "wreck" for me right now is I am gruelingly going over and over again in my mind giving up this GREAT fucking job I currently have (and have had for many years now) and going into business w/my cousin who co-owns a local company w/his father-in-law who, due to age, is going to be leaving it soon and retiring. Starting out, I would make roughly the same money, but the potential to double or even better that in the not-too-distant future is why I'm considering it. Well, that and lets face it, working w/a family member you're quite close with and have been your entire life, well, that's a HUGE cherry on top. Plus, I could *probably* (NEVER a guarantee), but I could probably get down on my knees and beg for my old job back if it ended up being the wrong decision.

Yeah, I guess mentally, making this decision is making me a bit of a "wreck"........but I'm sure you or no one else (ESPECIALLY in a fucking baseball thread :lol: :lol: ) could give 2 good shits about any of that. So to make it "fit" (just a wee little bit), do I continue knocking that fastball, straight over the heart of the plate out of the park, or do I start swinging at that nasty curve and try to master hitting that pitch to my overall repertoire, thus making me better overall? Man, I really don't know..........
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killeverything wrote: Detroit and Chicago are now tied for first. I think everybody expects Detroit to win the Central.
The White Sox can do nothing right in that fucking ballpark.
But, at the same time, Detroit just can't seem to fully get over that hump and take command of 1st place. Last I heard tonight, the Sox were getting POUNDED by the Twins (last score update I got was Twins 18, Sox 4 :shock: ). But regardless, the Sox will still own 1st place tomorrow.

NO ONE expected the W.Sox to do what they have done this yr. and all the talking heads thought the Tigers were going to take 1st place and stay on cruise-control throughout most of the season. I think they were quite wrong, eh? I'm rooting for the Sox to take the division. I'm not gonna lie, I DO think the Tigers are going to end up, at some point this month taking over 1st place but I hope that I am wrong. I don't like the Tigers, never have. White Sox OTOH have never bothered me. I've never been a "fan" per se, but I've never disliked 'em either. So I'm rooting for 'em.
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tin00can wrote:The AL wild card race is gonna be interesting (and ultimately heartbreaking for me, because the Angels won't get one) and fun to watch. It's entirely possible that the Yankees could end up as the second wildcard, or not even in the playoffs at all. Love to see the Orioles doing so well.
Oh absolutely...watching the MFY's tanking here lately has been so sweet! And now the O's are tied w/him for the division lead. And TB (who have whipped up on the MFY's the last couple of games and hopefully get the sweep tomorrow --- err, actually later today actually since it's after midnight ET) are only 1.5 games out!

I would still LOVE to see happen what I wrote in my novel-length post several posts back....Oakland A's get in the playoffs make it to the WS. My Reds do the same. And we sweep 'em in 4 in the WS, just like fuckin' 1990!

But believe me, I'll be really happy just to see the MFY's NOT make the playoffs if that happens. I think I heard on PTI earlier today that the last time the MFY's OR the Red Sox one didn't make the playoffs was 1993? Be great to see it again in 2012. I think this is the 1st time the Orioles have been in such a position since 1997.

And your Angels COULD still someway, somehow get into the playoffs. It's certainly NOT looking very likely (currently 8.5 back in the division and 4 out of the WC), but one only needs to look back to last season as to the crazy things that can and do happen in the last month of this game.

I wonder how much the Angels regret giving that HUGE fucking deal to Pujols now? Especially w/the emergence of Mike Trout. I know I sure as shit would. And it's NOT just this sorta just avg. kind of season he has had this yr., he could absolutely come out next yr. and even a few more yrs. after that just CRUSHING the ball. But once you get into those final 5 yrs. of that contract, I have a feeling it's gonna start getting REALLY fucking ugly. Add to that, I hate to sound like a tin-foil-hat wearing conspiracy theorist, but I won't deny that I honestly do believe that the guy is older than he states. Supposedly Miami had irrefutable proof (maybe they did, maybe they didn't, but I believe he is a bit older regardless).
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Re: Killeverything's (New)NeverEndingBaseballThread

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Well NeverSurrender, you've gotta be feeling pretty good right now after that total fumble of a play when the Padres had Victorino caught and totally botched that shit. Dodgers got 2 runs. Now lead 3 -1 in the top of the 8th.

Oh and LITERALLY JUST as I finished typing the above....Grandal (the catcher I SO FUCKING WISH that the Reds had kept vs. Mesoraco in the deal for Latos) just smashes one out of the park to tie it :D

And people say baseball is boring when, in one of my SHORT posts (a rarity in and of itself), the game goes from a 2 run lead to a tie!

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Well, I guess your Dodgers really ARE a wreck N.Surrender! Lost 6-3 in 11. Wow, what the hell is the Dodgers major malfunction? On paper, they look like one hell of a team?

And damn, I gotta say it again, it fucking kills me that we gave up Grandal vs. Mesoraco in the deal for Latos :cry: Yeah, Meso is the better catcher (has a much stronger arm, seems to be a tad better at blocking pitches in the dirt/wild pitches/etc.) - BUT, Meso, thus far appears to be a guy that's going to end up w/a career .240-ish, maybe .250 BA, while Grandal is a switch-hitter (that alone makes me froth at the mouth a little bit, I LOVE a GOOD switch-hitter and thus far, Grandal appears to be just that). Grandal also appears to be getting better and better at calling a good game. He has had less time in the minors/majors, and other than a weaker arm, he already appears to be the better overall catcher IMO. Meso has never really lit it up on an offensive scale, but once again, we come back to raw defensive catching ability and that cannon of an arm he has. Is that, ultimately, worth more than a bit of a weaker-armed but, in a very small sample size, guy that appears as though the sky could be the limit offensively? Did the front office guys/scouts/etc. know something I surely do not when they chose to deal Grandal instead of Meso? I sure do hope so because as things stand, I absolutely would have kept Grandal. I don't care about giving up Alonso - he was blocked by Votto. I sure as HELL do not give a fuck about giving up Volquez. He was only by the slightest of margins above "suck" level IMO. With our bullpen in the shape that it is, I don't mind that we dealt Boxberger, a guy whom it certainly appears could have a nice future in some form of a bullpen role. But Grandal, man...........(and I certainly do hope that time proves me wrong and the Reds brass correct in keeping Meso, but as of now, I have my doubts).
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Re: Killeverything's (New)NeverEndingBaseballThread

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Red Sox west coast trip isn't a complete waste.
They'll bring back a souvenir they purchased from the Mariner store.
Catcher, Guillermo Quiroz.
Just wait til next year, bitches.
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The Twins just scored on the White Sox again.

The Cubs are going to have a really good draft position.
He's like the Liberace of bass & pot.

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