Killeverything's (New)NeverEndingBaseballThread

[Machado]

Oakland brings back Rajah Davis on a 1/6m deal. I like this for the A's. They fill a need in CF and can flip him at the deadline.

AZ trade OF Peter O'Brien to Royals for RHP Sam Lewis.

Kill,
You know damn well that Davis will be traded as soon as the A's are eliminated from the playoff race.
That team is a joke. The organization is a joke. The stadium they play in is a joke.
But I will be there when the Yankees roll into town this summer

[killeverything]

Oakland brings back Rajah Davis on a 1/6m deal. I like this for the A's. They fill a need in CF and can flip him at the deadline.

AZ trade OF Peter O'Brien to Royals for RHP Sam Lewis.

Kill,
You know damn well that Davis will be traded as soon as the A's are eliminated from the playoff race.
That team is a joke. The organization is a joke. The stadium they play in is a joke.
But I will be there when the Yankees roll into town this summer

The org doesn't have money. It's amazing what they accomplished with so little.

Matiners acquire Yovani Gallardo from Orioles for cash and OF Seth Smith.

Mariners acquire OF Jarrod Dyson from KC for RHP Nathan Karns.

[killeverything]

Oakland signs IF Trevor Ploufe.

LAD resigns Kenley Jansen 5/80m ( I thought this already happened ). Jansen can opt out after year 3.

[killeverything]

Braves trade Mallex Smith and Shae Simmons to the M's for 2 prospects and the M's then flipped Smith and 2 of their own prospects to the Rays for Drew Smyly

A's sign Santiago Casilla to a 2 year deal

Jose Bautista close to returning to Toronto on a 2 year deal 35-40m.

[johnk5150]

Holy shit.

Corey Seager led all SS with an .877OPS.

Talk about a breakout debut.

Wow.

[dmbrocker]

Wil Myers inks huge $83 million six year deal with Padres:

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/repor ... 42643.html

[killeverything]

President Obama pardons Willie McCovey for 1995 tax evasion. Right on.

[Machado]

Wil Myers inks huge $83 million six year deal with Padres:

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/repor ... 42643.html

and that is why the Padres won't win anytime soon. no chance Myers is worth that kind of money.
career .257 hitter, LOL!
Tony Gwynn must be rolling over in his grave over that money for being average

[johnk5150]

Bagwell like Raines should have been in a while ago.

They're in. And Pudge.

[johnk5150]

Begs the question for me. Are more questionable players going to start being elected.

[Machado]

Bagwell, Raines, Ivan Rodriguez elected to HOF
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

so boring. suddenly these guys are worthy enough to enter the HOF, but were not prior to this year?
plus, no Bonds or Clemens but Vladdy/Daddy & Hoffman just miss the votes needed?
the entire process is B.S.

[killeverything]

Begs the question for me. Are more questionable players going to start being elected.

Yep. With the addition of Selig a lot of BBWAA guys are lowering their suspected PED stance.

I think Bonds gets in next year. Clemens probably eventually. He needed PEDs to reach the level, Barry didn't.

Ivan was implicated in Jose's book. Bagwell was really good during the era.

Selig's Veteran's Committee induction was disgusting and changed the HOF.

[Machado]

Begs the question for me. Are more questionable players going to start being elected.

Yep. With the addition of Selig a lot of BBWAA guys are lowering their suspected PED stance.

I think Bonds gets in next year. Clemens probably eventually. He needed PEDs to reach the level, Barry didn't.

Ivan was implicated in Jose's book. Bagwell was really good during the era.

Selig's Veteran's Committee induction was disgusting and changed the HOF.

i wish these writer's would focus on Selig and expose him for the fraud he was/is. imagine
if the writer's did that. i guess it only takes one but none of them have the balls to
stick their neck out and write a story about Selig.
no doubt the members of the Veteran's Committee received a sum of money for their vote.
Selig is a fraud and worse than Bonds & Clemens combined

[killeverything]

Begs the question for me. Are more questionable players going to start being elected.

Yep. With the addition of Selig a lot of BBWAA guys are lowering their suspected PED stance.

I think Bonds gets in next year. Clemens probably eventually. He needed PEDs to reach the level, Barry didn't.

Ivan was implicated in Jose's book. Bagwell was really good during the era.

Selig's Veteran's Committee induction was disgusting and changed the HOF.

i wish these writer's would focus on Selig and expose him for the fraud he was/is. imagine
if the writer's did that. i guess it only takes one but none of them have the balls to
stick their neck out and write a story about Selig.
no doubt the members of the Veteran's Committee received a sum of money for their vote.
Selig is a fraud and worse than Bonds & Clemens combined

No, they weren't paid off. Selig has a lot to do with the player's strike, but he was the commish when baseball returned. A lot of people made a lot of money.

Mark Trumbo and Orioles close to 3 year deal.

[johnk5150]

Mark Trumbo and Orioles close to 3 year deal.

This is a good signing.

[Machado]

Tim Raines, admitted cocaine abuser, elected
Bagwell, alleged steroid use, elected
Pudge, widely suspected of steroid use, elected

THE FUCKING MLB ARE FULL OF HYPOCRITES

I guess you can use "some" PED's, but not so much. There must be a barometer,
a secret amount where it is perfectly acceptable.
Then you have Raines, who was the NL's version of Ricky Henderson, who abused
cocaine but it treated like an angel.

FUCK THAT

[johnk5150]

Saw The Enforcer last night. Dirty Harry 1976. There's a scene where the SF mayor is attending a Giants game being played on artificial turf. I thought it had to be a location shoot. Did a little digging and learned the Giants put in turf from 1970-1978. Put the bluegrass back in in 1979. I did not know that.

[killeverything]

Tim Raines, admitted cocaine abuser, elected
Bagwell, alleged steroid use, elected
Pudge, widely suspected of steroid use, elected

THE FUCKING MLB ARE FULL OF HYPOCRITES

I guess you can use "some" PED's, but not so much. There must be a barometer,
a secret amount where it is perfectly acceptable.
Then you have Raines, who was the NL's version of Ricky Henderson, who abused
cocaine but it treated like an angel.

FUCK THAT

The difference is the HOF isn't about someone being a good person. Ty Cobb? So Raines doong blow and deservedly getting elected doesn't bother me.

Bagwell was good and played during the Selig era, that's not his fault, nor is it an admission of use. Irod, same. There is more of a suspicion on his part because TX was like Oakland in the late 80s with roids. Again it's not an admission.

Clemens, Sosa, McGwire, Palmeiro, Arod, Manny, all were busted. There is no doubt they used. Out of all of them Bonds is the only one that was HOF before PEDs. We can almost pinpoint the date he started. Shit, he told Junior "I'm going to do the hardcore stuff" in jealousy of LESSER players Mac and Sosa's popularity.

With the induction of Selig, I have softened on PED users in the Hall ( there already is ) when they didn't need it. Bonds didn't. He is an asshole but he's also in the top 5 of alltime greats.

KC RHP Yordano Ventura killed in a carwreck in the DR this morning.

*ETA

Former mlb player Andy Marte dies in carwreck today. Geez.

[Machado]

Tim Raines, admitted cocaine abuser, elected
Bagwell, alleged steroid use, elected
Pudge, widely suspected of steroid use, elected

THE FUCKING MLB ARE FULL OF HYPOCRITES

I guess you can use "some" PED's, but not so much. There must be a barometer,
a secret amount where it is perfectly acceptable.
Then you have Raines, who was the NL's version of Ricky Henderson, who abused
cocaine but it treated like an angel.

FUCK THAT

The difference is the HOF isn't about someone being a good person. Ty Cobb? So Raines doong blow and deservedly getting elected doesn't bother me.

Bagwell was good and played during the Selig era, that's not his fault, nor is it an admission of use. Irod, same. There is more of a suspicion on his part because TX was like Oakland in the late 80s with roids. Again it's not an admission.

Clemens, Sosa, McGwire, Palmeiro, Arod, Manny, all were busted. There is no doubt they used. Out of all of them Bonds is the only one that was HOF before PEDs. We can almost pinpoint the date he started. Shit, he told Junior "I'm going to do the hardcore stuff" in jealousy of LESSER players Mac and Sosa's popularity.

With the induction of Selig, I have softened on PED users in the Hall ( there already is ) when they didn't need it. Bonds didn't. He is an asshole but he's also in the top 5 of alltime greats.

KC RHP Yordano Ventura killed in a carwreck in the DR this morning.

*ETA

Former mlb player Andy Marte dies in carwreck today. Geez.

another detail that upsets me is how some people "have softened on PED users" because Selig
was inducted or because a certain number of years has passed. that is all B.S. in their minds
have these players "serve enough time" that they can now be excused or pardoned?
i have always been in favor of having the words PED or Steroids or Gambling on a plaque
if that is well deserved. the steroid era should be acknowledged in the HOF.
but no, MLB wants to save face and pretend the era never existed. FUCKING HYPOCRITES

p.s. Ventura was that kid pitcher who was in the middle of a lot of bean brawls huh?

[killeverything]

They need an asterisk.

Ventura was KC. They all started acting tough after SF beat them.

[Machado]

They need an asterisk.

Ventura was KC. They all started acting tough after SF beat them.

I can accept a FAT ASTERISK. Nothing wrong with that and if those
players who were legit caught cheating and legit suspected of PED
abuse, they get the asterisk. Take it or leave it.

[killeverything]

Ex-Mariner Dae-Ho Lee leaving mlb to rejoin KBO Lotte Giants.

LAD aquires 2B Logan Forsythe from TB for RHP Jose De Leon.

SF sign Korean 2B Jae-gyun Hwang to minor league deal.

Lots of hyphenated transactions today.

[Machado]

Ex-Mariner Dae-Ho Lee leaving mlb to rejoin KBO Lotte Giants.

LAD aquires 2B Logan Forsythe from TB for RHP Jose De Leon.

SF sign Korean 2B Jae-gyun Hwang to minor league deal.

Lots of hyphenated transactions today.

Kill
Just let me know when Derek Jeter has his number retired by the Yankees?
Oh wait, I may actually attend that ceremony in May.
STAY TUNED

[killeverything]

Ex-Mariner Dae-Ho Lee leaving mlb to rejoin KBO Lotte Giants.

LAD aquires 2B Logan Forsythe from TB for RHP Jose De Leon.

SF sign Korean 2B Jae-gyun Hwang to minor league deal.

Lots of hyphenated transactions today.

Kill
Just let me know when Derek Jeter has his number retired by the Yankees?
Oh wait, I may actually attend that ceremony in May.
STAY TUNED

Those tix are gonna be a fortune.

[killeverything]

Greg Holland signs 1 year deal with Colorado ( plus vesting option ).

Joba Chamberlain inks minor league contract with Milwaukie ( + invite to spring training ). That was another pitcher Torre royally fucked ( Hughes being the other ) in his development.

Mariners to retire Edgar Martinez's number on 08/12. Edgrrr joins Jr. as the only M to have their number retired.

[Machado]

Greg Holland signs 1 year deal with Colorado ( plus vesting option ).

Joba Chamberlain inks minor league contract with Milwaukie ( + invite to spring training ). That was another pitcher Torre royally fucked ( Hughes being the other ) in his development.

Mariners to retire Edgar Martinez's number on 08/12. Edgrrr joins Jr. as the only M to have their number retired.

Kill,
Don't get me angry regarding Joba. The guy was a 1 hit wonder. He had the 1 good season and he was not content with being a reliever.
IMO, the blame is 50/50. Torre and Joba.

[killeverything]

Greg Holland signs 1 year deal with Colorado ( plus vesting option ).

Joba Chamberlain inks minor league contract with Milwaukie ( + invite to spring training ). That was another pitcher Torre royally fucked ( Hughes being the other ) in his development.

Mariners to retire Edgar Martinez's number on 08/12. Edgrrr joins Jr. as the only M to have their number retired.

Kill,
Don't get me angry regarding Joba. The guy was a 1 hit wonder. He had the 1 good season and he was not content with being a reliever.
IMO, the blame is 50/50. Torre and Joba.

Possibly. There is eveidence to suggest fucking so much with a player's development screws them in the long run.

Maybe he was a one-hit wonder. Torre has that old school mgr. philosophy of pitching his relievers until arms fall off. I'm in the camp of thinking they messed up in his development/use.

Really who knows? Maybe he was just figured out.

[Machado]

Greg Holland signs 1 year deal with Colorado ( plus vesting option ).

Joba Chamberlain inks minor league contract with Milwaukie ( + invite to spring training ). That was another pitcher Torre royally fucked ( Hughes being the other ) in his development.

Mariners to retire Edgar Martinez's number on 08/12. Edgrrr joins Jr. as the only M to have their number retired.

Kill,
Don't get me angry regarding Joba. The guy was a 1 hit wonder. He had the 1 good season and he was not content with being a reliever.
IMO, the blame is 50/50. Torre and Joba.

Possibly. There is eveidence to suggest fucking so much with a player's development screws them in the long run.

Maybe he was a one-hit wonder. Torre has that old school mgr. philosophy of pitching his relievers until arms fall off. I'm in the camp of thinking they messed up in his development/use.

Really who knows? Maybe he was just figured out.

early on it seemed Joba was the real deal. that slider he threw was just nasty. I think some of his early success stunted his growth.
he did not work as hard and his performance was declining. we all know he wanted to be a starter but the stats showed he was
average at best and did not have the stamina to go deep into games.
which was easy for me to accept that he was better used out of the pen.
anyway, joba was a wasted talent.

[killeverything]

A's trade LHP Dillon Overton to Seattle for C Jason Goldstein, DFA Jesus Sucre. It's odd to see Beane deal in the division.

[UtahRatt]

Today in history, January 29th 1936 the first inductees in baseball's Hall of Fame...

Cobb received 222 the most votes of the 226 cast. Tying for second with 215 votes were Ruth and Wagner. Mathewson received 205 and Walter Johnson 189.

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On this day in 1936, in Cooperstown, New York, the Baseball Hall of Fame announces the election of five charter members: Ty Cobb, Babe Ruth, Honus Wagner, Christy Mathewson and Walter Johnson.

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-hist ... st-members

"The five charter Hall of Fame members were elected by members of the Baseball Writers’ Association of America (BBWAA). The ballots revealed that five players had received at least 75 percent of the votes cast, setting a standard for admission to the Hall of Fame that still exists today. Cobb, an astoundingly productive hitter who won nine consecutive American League batting titles from 1907 to 1915, received the most votes, appearing on 222 of the 226 ballots cast. Tying for second with 215 votes were Ruth, an ace left-handed pitcher who had smashed the league’s home run records, and Wagner, a star shortstop who won eight National League batting titles and retired with more than 3,000 hits. Mathewson, who pitched more winning games than any NL pitcher in history, received 205 votes, while Johnson, one of the game’s most powerful pitchers and career record holder for most strikeouts at the time of his retirement, received 189."

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I'd kill to have a time machine and go back to watch a few older eras they played in, then scream out.....That's a home-plate collision! REPLAY! That's not allowed! CTE!

The pic that KILL has posted many times of Cobb spiking into home plate is one of the best baseball pictures ever! I think it's Cobb.....Either way it's cringe worthy. I don't even know if the catcher is ok but I can't look at it without the hairs on my neck stand up.