Brett Farve = Playoff Bitch

[Crazy Levi]

Just thought I'd point out what a bitch Brett Farve is. After seeing the national taint licking that took place this week, it's important to remember just how awful he's been in the playoffs this century. I've heard the rhetorical question "How can you not love Brett Farve!" from many aging white guys this season. My answer would be "If you are a fan of a team he plays on, it's not too hard."

Chew on these stats before this thread turns into 5 pages of Juggernaught and someone else arguing about who the most popular D-back in football is....

The horror show of Favre's other 21st centry playoff performances:
2007 NFC Championship Game - Favre throws an INT in overtime, Giants
win; 2003 NFC Division Playoff - Favre throws an INT in overtime,
Eagles win; 2002 NFC Wildcard Game - Favre throws 2 INTs and fumbles
twice, Falcons win; 2001 NFC Divisional Game - Favre throws 6 INTs
(!), 3 are returned for TDs and a fourth is returned inside the 5 yard
line, leading to a TD moments later - essentially Favre INTs were
responsible for 28 of the Rams 45 points, (need I say it?) Rams win...

[bane]

But, but , but, He's the best quarterback EVAH!!!!111!!!

[thejuggernaut]

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The Brett Favre 300th interception commemorative coin! —
It's a little golden piece of history. Favre is the first and only member of the 300 interception club, and you can get this coin now to complete your collection!

“I think he has been a great flamboyant quarterback, but he has made more stupid plays than any great quarterback that I’ve ever seen. Look at his final game in a Packers uniform. He blew that game [NFC championship] against the Giants,” Tarkenton said in late May on KFAN-1130 in the Twin Cities.

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Brett Favre’s 6 Greatest Interception Fests of All Time

Love him or hate him, you have to admit, Brett Favre is a legend whose legacy will never be forgotten. With that said, in our case, we hate him and the legacy we choose to never forget is the one that involves him spending the latter part of his career as the most prolific interception throwing machine in NFL history. There was a time when, in a 4th-quarter-two-minute-drive situation, Brett Favre was absolutely lethal. That time was 1996-1997. Since then, it’s been a non-stop parade of wobbly passes chucked up into the stratosphere with the game on the line and hauled in by the defense, effectively killing the dreams of legions of “cheeseheads.” And the occasional New Yorker also. Good times.



6. September 10th, 2006 – Packers vs. Bears

To kick off the first of what would be many “farewell” seasons for Favre, the Packers took on the eventual NFC champion Chicago Bears in the home opener at Lambeau Field. While soon-to-be poster boy for all that is unholy at the quarterback position Rex Grossman moved the ball up and down the field with relative ease, Favre threw just five passes for a meager 70 yards in the first half. But eventually, the real Brett Favre shone through. And by that, of course, I mean he started chucking the ball everywhich way but correct and ended up with two fourth quarter interceptions.

While the game had little to no playoff implications, it is notable for being the first ever shutout of Brett Favre’s career, with the Bears winning 26-0. He would get his revenge though when the Packers knocked off the by-then division champion Bears on New Year’s Eve during the final game of the season. And then he started sobbing like a girl before he even made it to the locker room. In his defense though, it was a pretty heavy moment in that it was the last time he would ever imply that he was going to retire without everyone within ear shot rolling their eyes and barely containing their disgust.





5. The Last Five Games of the 2008 Season

If Vikings fans are curious as to what they have to look forward to in 2009, they need look no further than Favre’s guffaw inspiring end to his 2008 stint with the New York Jets. Through week 11, the Jets were an impressive 8-3 under Favre’s elderly leadership. And then, all hell broke loose.

Over the last five games, Favre threw an impressive nine interceptions while putting up just two TD passes. The Jets lost four of those last five games. Things got so tense in the Jets camp that at one point RB Thomas Jones suggested that Favre should have been benched after throwing 3 INT’s in one game. He wasn’t benched, of course. In fact, he was selected to represent the AFC in the Pro Bowl. Makes sense.

All indications at the end of 2008 were that Favre’s geriatric cannon had run out of gas. In what has to be a promising sign for Vikings fans, Favre briefly considered not coming back because, after an offseason spent working out, he was exhausted. And the season hasn’t even started.





4. January 20th, 2008 – NFC Championship

Throughout the entire 2007 season, there were but two topics on the lips of every media outlet when it came time to discuss the NFL…Brett Favre and the New England Patriots. This made the 2007 season different from most other seasons in absolutely no way. For New England, all of the talk centered around their march to a nearly perfect season that ended in the most perfect way possible for anyone outside of New England. As for Favre, he was in the midst of his second farewell tour with the Packers and was within reach of just about every passing record imaginable. Whatever, we were just psyched that he broke the all time interception record.

By all standards, it was an impressive season for Favre. A season that extended all the way to the NFC Championship game where the Packers hosted the New York Football Giants. If we can digress for a second, why the hell do people still say “the New York Football Giants?” The baseball Giants left New York seven hundred years ago. Stop it. Anyway, yeah, Favre took them to the NFC Championship. It was at Lambeau. It was cold. The Packers rightfully should have won. Fortunately, once overtime rolled around, Favre reverted to his late-career form and chucked up an ill advised pass to Donald Driver that was promptly intercepted by the Giants’ Corey Webster. On the ensuing possession, the Giants would kick the game winning field goal, thus saving the world from a Super Bowl that would have had absolutely no chance of ending well. Either Favre was going to win another Super Bowl, or the Patriots perfect season would be complete. Either way, we all would have lost.






3. January 11th, 2004 – NFC Divisional Playoff

It would take a real asshole to not appreciate Brett Favre’s 2003 performance on Monday Night Football just one day after his father died of a heart attack. Even the Raider fans were cheering him on, and they’re a bunch of douchebags! But that’s just one game. By the end of the season, just about everyone was tired of hearing about the “magic” and how “something special” was happening during the Packers improbable playoff run.

When the Packers rolled into Philadelphia for the NFC Divisional Playoff, all signs pointed to another Packers victory. And then, the wheels fell off. With a 3-point lead, the Packers had the Eagles stopped at 4th and 26. For any team with the ghost of Brett’s dad at their back, that should have been enough for the win. But nay! Freddie Mitchell somehow found himself open over the middle for a 28 yard completion. A few plays later, the game was tied and headed into overtime. It’s at this point that Brett Favre’s father apparently tuned out.

After the Eagles went three and out on their first possession of overtime, Brett Favre took over. And by “took over” we mean “immediately hurled what looked less like a pass and more like a punt in the direction of Brian Dawkins who hauled it in for an interception”. A few plays later, a David Akers field goal ended the Packers run to the Super Bowl. Awesome.






2. January 4th, 2003 – NFC Wild Card Playoff

Hey, Michael Vick, there’s a name we haven’t heard in awhile! Wonder what that guy is up to these days? Anyway, back in 2003, Michael Vick was the youngest quarterback in the NFL. It was widely believed that his Atlanta Falcons had absolutely no chance against the mighty Packers in the NFC Wild Card Playoff that year. Vick had never seen action in the playoffs. The Packers had never lost a home playoff game and were 35-0 at Lambeau when the temperature was 34 degrees or less. The temperature that night was 28. It wasn’t looking good for Vick and the Falcons. At least not until the game actually started.

Vick and the Falcons played flawless football and by half time had amassed an insurmountable 24-0 lead. After leading Green Bay to a touchdown on their first drive of the second half, Favre’s killer instinct took over. Unfortunately for him, that instinct killed any chance of a comeback. On their next six possessions, the Pack committed four turnovers, including an interception and a lost fumble by Favre. Classic Brett.






1. January 20th, 2002 – NFC Divisional Playoff

There are shitty performances, and then there are games like this. Nobody really expected the Packers to go on the road and take out the St. Louis Rams’ Greatest Show on Turf. But damn, what people expected even less was for Brett Favre to bust out his absolute worst performance of all time.

Six, COUNT EM’, SIX, interceptions. Three of those interceptions were returned for touchdowns. Another was returned to the 4 yard line and led to another touchdown moments later. Of the Rams 45 points, only 17 were not in some way related to Brett Favre’s interception-y shenanigans. We almost feel more comfortable making jokes about his dad, because this performance is way more depressing.

This would begin a long string of games in which, afterwards, nobody wanted to say what everybody knew. Brett Favre played like trash in pressure situations and it cost them the game. From here on, every season would be riddled with questions about how much longer he would play. Seven years and several teary eyed press conferences later, we still have no idea.

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[Al-Bone]

As a Vikings fan, I don't want Favre back next year. The Vikings were clearly looking for a quick fix, and it backfired on them.

[ParaDime77]

As a Vikings fan, I don't want Favre back next year. The Vikings were clearly looking for a quick fix, and it backfired on them.

And Tavaris Jackson or Sage Rosenfels were going to take them to the season they just had?? Try 7-9 asshole.

[thejuggernaut]

As a Vikings fan, I don't want Favre back next year. The Vikings were clearly looking for a quick fix, and it backfired on them.

And Tavaris Jackson or Sage Rosenfels were going to take them to the season they just had?? Try 7-9 asshole.

So the end result was the same, except it cost them so much more.

[Tymaster]

As a Vikings fan, I don't want Favre back next year. The Vikings were clearly looking for a quick fix, and it backfired on them.

And Tavaris Jackson or Sage Rosenfels were going to take them to the season they just had?? Try 7-9 asshole.

True, but if Favre and Childress want to pursue this avenue for another season, it would be nice of Favre to let Childress know of his TRUE intentions early on. If not, he hampers the Vikes chances of landing a legitimate starter.

[thejuggernaut]

As a Vikings fan, I don't want Favre back next year. The Vikings were clearly looking for a quick fix, and it backfired on them.

And Tavaris Jackson or Sage Rosenfels were going to take them to the season they just had?? Try 7-9 asshole.

True, but if Favre and Childress want to pursue this avenue for another season, it would be nice of Favre to let Childress know of his TRUE intentions early on. If not, he hampers the Vikes chances of landing a legitimate starter.

Fucks with their salary cap, their draft etc etc

The popular thinking is Childress is going to go after McNabb.

[Tymaster]

True, but if Favre and Childress want to pursue this avenue for another season, it would be nice of Favre to let Childress know of his TRUE intentions early on. If not, he hampers the Vikes chances of landing a legitimate starter.[/quote]

Fucks with their salary cap, their draft etc etc

The popular thinking is Childress is going to go after McNabb.[/quote]

The talk in Cleveland is that Holmgren wants McNabb as well..............

[Machado]

True, but if Favre and Childress want to pursue this avenue for another season, it would be nice of Favre to let Childress know of his TRUE intentions early on. If not, he hampers the Vikes chances of landing a legitimate starter.

Fucks with their salary cap, their draft etc etc

The popular thinking is Childress is going to go after McNabb.[/quote]

The talk in Cleveland is that Holmgren wants McNabb as well..............[/quote]

Any team with a QB need wants donovan. That's common knowledge.
If he leaves the eagles, he should go to the bears.

[Crazy Levi]

Any team with a QB need wants donovan. That's common knowledge.
If he leaves the eagles, he should go to the bears.

Uhhh...didn't the bears just mortgage the farm for Cutler? I think they'll be stuck with him for a while.

[Machado]

Any team with a QB need wants donovan. That's common knowledge.
If he leaves the eagles, he should go to the bears.

Uhhh...didn't the bears just mortgage the farm for Cutler? I think they'll be stuck with him for a while.

good point.
also, i don't see mcnabb leaving the eagles. if he does, option #2 for the eagles is vick. not sure the team believes he can return to his pro bowl glory or if he gives the team a better chance to win than mcnabb.
so yeah, donovan is not going anywhere.

[poizond13]

Let's look at Favre's season and see if we can understand all the hate being directed at him:

Throws for 33 Touchdowns and over 4,000 yards.
Throws just 7 picks.
Leads his team to a 12-4 record while having, arguably, the best season of his career.
Leads his team to the NFC Championship game and within one play of the Superbowl.
Elevates the play of every receiver on the team.
Increases revenue for the Vikings substantially.

HOW HORRIBLE!

[Machado]

Let's look at Favre's season and see if we can understand all the hate being directed at him:

Throws for 33 Touchdowns and over 4,000 yards.
Throws just 7 picks.
Leads his team to a 12-4 record while having, arguably, the best season of his career.
Leads his team to the NFC Championship game and within one play of the Superbowl.
Elevates the play of every receiver on the team.
Increases revenue for the Vikings substantially.

HOW HORRIBLE!

His actions during the off-season lead to the majority of the HATE towards him.

[Tymaster]

Let's look at Favre's season and see if we can understand all the hate being directed at him:

Throws for 33 Touchdowns and over 4,000 yards.
Throws just 7 picks.
Leads his team to a 12-4 record while having, arguably, the best season of his career.
Leads his team to the NFC Championship game and within one play of the Superbowl.
Elevates the play of every receiver on the team.
Increases revenue for the Vikings substantially.

HOW HORRIBLE!

His actions during the off-season lead to the majority of the HATE towards him.

Childress stated today that he WOULD NOT SET A TIME TABLE, so let the circus begin again......................

[thejuggernaut]

Let's look at Favre's season and see if we can understand all the hate being directed at him:

Throws for 33 Touchdowns and over 4,000 yards.
Throws just 7 picks.
Leads his team to a 12-4 record while having, arguably, the best season of his career.
Leads his team to the NFC Championship game and within one play of the Superbowl.
Elevates the play of every receiver on the team.
Increases revenue for the Vikings substantially.

HOW HORRIBLE!

And he LITERALLY threw it all away and did more harm for the franchise than he did good.

He melted down again, and his last pass was an INT (again).

In the end, he was no more effective than Jackson and Rosenfels.

[Tymaster]

Let's look at Favre's season and see if we can understand all the hate being directed at him:

Throws for 33 Touchdowns and over 4,000 yards.
Throws just 7 picks.
Leads his team to a 12-4 record while having, arguably, the best season of his career.
Leads his team to the NFC Championship game and within one play of the Superbowl.
Elevates the play of every receiver on the team.
Increases revenue for the Vikings substantially.

HOW HORRIBLE!

And he LITERALLY threw it all away and did more harm for the franchise than he did good.

He melted down again, and his last pass was an INT (again).

In the end, he was no more effective than Jackson and Rosenfels.

P13 should just avoid sports threads. We all know he never took a snap. All of his knowledge comes from Madden, and threads like this show that...

[Crazy Levi]

Any team with a QB need wants donovan. That's common knowledge.
If he leaves the eagles, he should go to the bears.

Uhhh...didn't the bears just mortgage the farm for Cutler? I think they'll be stuck with him for a while.

good point.
also, i don't see mcnabb leaving the eagles. if he does, option #2 for the eagles is vick. not sure the team believes he can return to his pro bowl glory or if he gives the team a better chance to win than mcnabb.
so yeah, donovan is not going anywhere.

That's not true. Option #2 is Kolb, a young QB who did well in his starts this season. He'd be the starter, not Vick, and the team might want to go ahead and make him the starter.

[Tymaster]

Don't understand Philly and why they (the city and the team apparently) would want to dump Donovan. The only rationale to me, is that he is aging, and this may the last year he demands market power. In Cleveland there are rumblings of sending off their first round pick!
And yes, I think Kolb has a bright future, and with Vick as a back-up, the Eagles would be fine, but to me, that seems unfair to Donovan. However, I won't be crying over any pro football players. The league minimum is more money than I'll ever carry in my bank account.

[SkyDog112046]

Read the Tuesday Morning Quarteback on ESPN.
Link:
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/st ... ortCat=nfl

Easterbrook pretty much nails it that Favre's ego is too big to let someone else win the game and he'd rather take a stupid chance and risk losing for a shot at being the hero instead of doing the safe thing and letting his kicker win the game.

[SkyDog112046]

If McNabb has a say he goes to the Vikings over the Browns. The Vikings have defense and a running game. Cleveland doesn't have much of anything, and their coach is a complete asshole.

[Tymaster]

If McNabb has a say he goes to the Vikings over the Browns. The Vikings have defense and a running game. Cleveland doesn't have much of anything, and their coach is a complete asshole.

Cleveland has more to offer the Eagles in terms of drafts picks, and they just want someone to
A) show Quinn how the big boys do it
B) show a yet to be named rookie how to do it

[Garbageman]

If McNabb has a say he goes to the Vikings over the Browns. The Vikings have defense and a running game. Cleveland doesn't have much of anything, and their coach is a complete asshole.

Cleveland has more to offer the Eagles in terms of drafts picks, and they just want someone to
A) show Quinn how the big boys do it
B) show a yet to be named rookie how to do it

Also, if you're Philly you trade someone who can come back and bite you in the ass out of the conference. Like the Packers did with Farve!

[Tymaster]

The irony of McNabb possibly coming to Cleveland is that we could have drafted him when we took Tim Couch............................

[sounds like fun]

As a Vikings fan, I don't want Favre back next year. The Vikings were clearly looking for a quick fix, and it backfired on them.

And Tavaris Jackson or Sage Rosenfels were going to take them to the season they just had?? Try 7-9 asshole.

So the end result was the same, except it cost them so much more.

Cost them so much more? His jersey was the biggest selling one in the NFL this season and unlike last season, we were not facing any blackouts because of an empty Metrodome. It IS a business and winning is a part of it, but I bet the Wilf family don't mind a dramatic increase in revenue, especially since their family fortune is in real estate and has taken quite a hit recently.

[thejuggernaut]

And Tavaris Jackson or Sage Rosenfels were going to take them to the season they just had?? Try 7-9 asshole.

So the end result was the same, except it cost them so much more.

Cost them so much more? His jersey was the biggest selling one in the NFL this season and unlike last season, we were not facing any blackouts because of an empty Metrodome. It IS a business and winning is a part of it, but I bet the Wilf family don't mind a dramatic increase in revenue, especially since their family fortune is in real estate and has taken quite a hit recently.

Good for the little extra revenue. Too bad they were aiming for SB or bust and thus altered their team plans as such. It might have helped the Wilf family bottom line, but it hurt the franchise ie the rest of the players.

It's somewhat reminiscent of when they sold the farm for Walker except, instead of selling off future draft picks, they stunted the growth of one QB, gave up a draft pick for Rosenfels.

They are on the hook for $8.5 million for the QB position in 2010 (deferred payment to Favre) so they are effectively paying $8.5 million this year for Sage Rosenfels. This after having committed $4.5 million to the backup QB position.

They also owe Favre a deferred payment in 2011.

That's $8 million of cap money the next two years to Favre who'll be sitting home collecting a paycheck.

Not to mention, Rosenfels will be pissed. He's by no means an elite QB, but he's semi competent and he can't help but be pissed after finally thinking he was getting a chance to start, struggling through practices, only to have the waffler come in a few weeks before the season began.

Now, do the Vikings go after a QB in round 1 ? They certainly need to bring in a young QB. Do they take ANOTHER high salary at the position and get no productivity out of it ? Granted, a contract where they Vikings are picking in round 1 won't be THAT high, but there aren't a lot of great Qb prospects coming out.

Who knows, maybe they take another shot, absorb McNabb's salary, limiting their options again what with the whole salary cap thing.

Hey, maybe Wilf will be grateful for all of that extra jersey revenue and bring in McNabb, without a restructuring, so they can commit $16 million to the QB position this year, $4.5 of which will go to the backup, further fucking themselves.

So, yeah, going all in with Favre and NOT winning it all will do more harm than good.

[poizond13]

Cost them so much more? His jersey was the biggest selling one in the NFL this season and unlike last season, we were not facing any blackouts because of an empty Metrodome. It IS a business and winning is a part of it, but I bet the Wilf family don't mind a dramatic increase in revenue, especially since their family fortune is in real estate and has taken quite a hit recently.

Exactly. Favre did EVERYTHING the Vikings expected him to do except get them to a Superbowl. He had a better season than anyone could've dreamed. Even if he never plays for the team again, his contributions to the franchise will be long lasting. People like Percy Harvin and Sidney Rice will benefit from their time with Favre for the rest of their careers. The Vikings franchise is better off than they were before they signed Favre. That's why they'll do everything they can to get him back next year, and give him all the time he wants to make the decision.

[poizond13]

The irony of McNabb possibly coming to Cleveland is that we could have drafted him when we took Tim Couch............................

Careful using the term "we" when referring to your team, juggernaut may have to deflect some of his roid rage toward you.

[SkyDog112046]

Selling more jersey's doesn't benefit just the team that the guy plays for. Revenues are shared for most things now since the owners agreed to revenue sharing a few years back.

[poizond13]

Let's look at Favre's season and see if we can understand all the hate being directed at him:

Throws for 33 Touchdowns and over 4,000 yards.
Throws just 7 picks.
Leads his team to a 12-4 record while having, arguably, the best season of his career.
Leads his team to the NFC Championship game and within one play of the Superbowl.
Elevates the play of every receiver on the team.
Increases revenue for the Vikings substantially.

HOW HORRIBLE!

And he LITERALLY threw it all away and did more harm for the franchise than he did good.

He melted down again, and his last pass was an INT (again).

In the end, he was no more effective than Jackson and Rosenfels.

P13 should just avoid sports threads. We all know he never took a snap. All of his knowledge comes from Madden, and threads like this show that...

Did I make up the Favre stats? Am I lying about the fact that he had an MVP calibre season? If not, then how do you figure this thread proves that I never played football? Surely you must be basing your wild accusations on something of merit.

I see the Favre haters are having a field day with this. But where were they all year when Favre was exceeding all expectations? Where were they all year when Favre was having a career season? One bad play does not make a bad season. I love how Favre is being crucified for making one bad decision that probably didn't even cost the Vikes the game, while the Favre haters have somehow forgotten that the Vikes had SIX FUMBLES in that game.