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Monsters_of_Rock wrote:Wow, a rational thought... on THIS board. Really? I'm truly impressed. Nicely done, poizond13.poizond13 wrote:Let's look at Favre's season and see if we can understand all the hate being directed at him:
Another game with turnovers and a boneheaded rookie mistake in a crucial moment.
Watching other teams play for the Super Bowl. Like they did with Jackson QBing them
This.bigbuttskinner wrote:On the play Berrian was the primary target. He was covered. Shiancoe was the second read, he was bracketed. Rice was running a clearing route. They switched to cover two before the snap. No one was open. He tried to hit Rice and he got picked. He tried to make it work because it was going to be a long kick. I don't understand why people fault the guy for trying.
If Tahi didn't come in and they didn't get a penalty for 12 men in the huddle, maybe they run AP again and see what happens. One play doesn't determine the game. Too many factors. It just so happens, this one was at the end of regulation so everyone puts the blame on #4.
I am getting a little tired of hearing this one from the rapidly diminishing Farve Army.poizond13 wrote:Let's look at Favre's season and see if we can understand all the hate being directed at him:
Throws for 33 Touchdowns and over 4,000 yards.
Throws just 7 picks.
Leads his team to a 12-4 record while having, arguably, the best season of his career.
Leads his team to the NFC Championship game and within one play of the Superbowl.
Elevates the play of every receiver on the team.
Increases revenue for the Vikings substantially.
HOW HORRIBLE!
Not this. If he just runs for 5 yards they get a chance at a game-winning field goal. Throwing across his body into quad coverage is inexcusable.Monsters_of_Rock wrote:This.bigbuttskinner wrote:On the play Berrian was the primary target. He was covered. Shiancoe was the second read, he was bracketed. Rice was running a clearing route. They switched to cover two before the snap. No one was open. He tried to hit Rice and he got picked. He tried to make it work because it was going to be a long kick. I don't understand why people fault the guy for trying.
If Tahi didn't come in and they didn't get a penalty for 12 men in the huddle, maybe they run AP again and see what happens. One play doesn't determine the game. Too many factors. It just so happens, this one was at the end of regulation so everyone puts the blame on #4.
You left out "this is the most idiotic post in the thread"....Next to yours of course. Fault the guy? If he didn't throw a pick their chances of winning are worth betting on. If he runs it's almost a shoe in and if he hits the WIDE FUCKING OPEN GUY IN THE FLAT it's dam near a lock.Monsters_of_Rock wrote:This.bigbuttskinner wrote:On the play Berrian was the primary target. He was covered. Shiancoe was the second read, he was bracketed. Rice was running a clearing route. They switched to cover two before the snap. No one was open. He tried to hit Rice and he got picked. He tried to make it work because it was going to be a long kick. I don't understand why people fault the guy for trying.
If Tahi didn't come in and they didn't get a penalty for 12 men in the huddle, maybe they run AP again and see what happens. One play doesn't determine the game. Too many factors. It just so happens, this one was at the end of regulation so everyone puts the blame on #4.
The Ratt makes a great point.UtahRatt wrote:You left out "this is the most idiotic post in the thread"....Next to yours of course. Fault the guy? If he didn't throw a pick their chances of winning are worth betting on. If he runs it's almost a shoe in and if he hits the WIDE FUCKING OPEN GUY IN THE FLAT it's dam near a lock.Monsters_of_Rock wrote:This.bigbuttskinner wrote:On the play Berrian was the primary target. He was covered. Shiancoe was the second read, he was bracketed. Rice was running a clearing route. They switched to cover two before the snap. No one was open. He tried to hit Rice and he got picked. He tried to make it work because it was going to be a long kick. I don't understand why people fault the guy for trying.
If Tahi didn't come in and they didn't get a penalty for 12 men in the huddle, maybe they run AP again and see what happens. One play doesn't determine the game. Too many factors. It just so happens, this one was at the end of regulation so everyone puts the blame on #4.
BUT NOOOOO BERT TOSSES YET ANOTHER INT! Just like clock work, during that drive I told the buddy next to me that Bert was going to toss a pick, I could feel it, hell everyone could fucking feel it.
As a QB you don't take fucking chances when you're in range, the last thing in the world you do is toss an INT, for fuck sake take a knee but not toss a pick. Stupid fucking hillbilly.
I bet you curled up in a fetal position and cried like a baby on that stupid fucking INT that cost them the game didn't ya MOR?
Statistically, it was his best season.Crazy Levi wrote:I am getting a little tired of hearing this one from the rapidly diminishing Farve Army.poizond13 wrote:Let's look at Favre's season and see if we can understand all the hate being directed at him:
Throws for 33 Touchdowns and over 4,000 yards.
Throws just 7 picks.
Leads his team to a 12-4 record while having, arguably, the best season of his career.
Leads his team to the NFC Championship game and within one play of the Superbowl.
Elevates the play of every receiver on the team.
Increases revenue for the Vikings substantially.
HOW HORRIBLE!
It's not "arguably" his best season.
His best season was the one where he didn't fuck up with a major league choke and actually won a Super Bowl ring. There's no further argument.
This season was "arguably" his biggest 21st century choke, but then, there's so many to choose from.
poizond13 wrote:Statistically, it was his best season.Crazy Levi wrote:I am getting a little tired of hearing this one from the rapidly diminishing Farve Army.poizond13 wrote:Let's look at Favre's season and see if we can understand all the hate being directed at him:
Throws for 33 Touchdowns and over 4,000 yards.
Throws just 7 picks.
Leads his team to a 12-4 record while having, arguably, the best season of his career.
Leads his team to the NFC Championship game and within one play of the Superbowl.
Elevates the play of every receiver on the team.
Increases revenue for the Vikings substantially.
HOW HORRIBLE!
It's not "arguably" his best season.
His best season was the one where he didn't fuck up with a major league choke and actually won a Super Bowl ring. There's no further argument.
This season was "arguably" his biggest 21st century choke, but then, there's so many to choose from.
Another fumble.NeverSurrender wrote:I hope Favre comes back. i never thought i would say that, but i know my team has another run in them.
There have been a few proclamations over the years.UtahRatt wrote:Another fumble.NeverSurrender wrote:I hope Favre comes back. i never thought i would say that, but i know my team has another run in them.
Adrian who? Wasn't it you that said he's not only the best in football but one of the best ever?
thejuggernaut wrote:You know what else he does ?NeverSurrender wrote: If AD had 25 of the 32 other starting qbs in the NFL, he would have had over 2,000 yds. He was the 5th fastest player ever to 3000 yds, and he has no passing game on his team. And a dumbass coach. I usually agree wioth you about the NFL, but you're wrong on this one. Only time will tell though. Yesterday he had 82 yds and two tds against the #3 defense, with 8 men in the bozx all day.
He leads skill position players in fumbles.
He's a running back - he's supposed to be the best protector of the ball.
When you fumble the ball that much, you're not an elite anything.
He is one of the best in football. A few fumbles doesn't change that. I'm not the kind of guy who calls anybody the best ever after a couple of years, but I ama Vikes homer so you never know.UtahRatt wrote:Another fumble.NeverSurrender wrote:I hope Favre comes back. i never thought i would say that, but i know my team has another run in them.
Adrian who? Wasn't it you that said he's not only the best in football but one of the best ever?
Crazy Levi wrote: Neversurrender - overnight transformation into tin foil hat wearing truther,
It's a reaching argument, both were great and I could see some people going with FaRve. With that said I'd say NO WAY. I'd bet the majority of players and writers would pick Marino as well.*flick* wrote:Favre > Marino
Elway has always been a giant gaping vag. He'd have never won any SB's without T. Davis.UtahRatt wrote:It's a reaching argument, both were great and I could see some people going with FaRve. With that said I'd say NO WAY. I'd bet the majority of players and writers would pick Marino as well.*flick* wrote:Favre > Marino
Miami flat out sucked.
All Marino ever had was Clayton and Duper, after that he made average guys like O.J. McDuffie look good while dealing with shitty running backs like Sammie Smith. Marino could put the cross-hairs on a Bee but he never had a decent team. It was Miami Marino vs NFL
GreenBay had great teams.
Favre played on much better teams by far! RB's, TE's, WR's Donald Driver, Antonio Freeman, Javon Walker, Sterling Sharp, Mark Chmura, Bubba Franks INCLUDING Dorsey Levens and Ahman Green. On the Defensive side with the likes of Reggie White, Darren Sharper, LeRoy Butler...Desmond Howard was a special teams nuclear weapon and their SuperBowl MVP.
The year Brett Favre won the SuperBowl the Packers had the number one Defense with the fewest points allowed.
If Dan Marino was on those Green bay teams, they would have won Superbowl's.
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Marino vs Elway would be a better argument.
They would have never made it to the SB without him.*flick* wrote:Elway has always been a giant gaping vag. He'd have never won any SB's without T. Davis.