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I stripped for the first four years of my marriage to afford my house and it worked. I've been happily married for 17 years now and don't regret it at all. It was easy, fast money that afforded me things a normal job couldn't (i.e. a new car and most of our house). I worked in an upscale club that paid us a very healthy amount by the hour and made a ton of money in tips (yes, I also paid my taxes). There was nothing seedy or shady about it and I didn't do it because of daddy or any other issues...I did it for cash and I'm not ashamed of that (nor is my husband).

I saw a lot of things I wish I hadn't and saw my share of girls who had issues, but I wasn't one of them. There were girls who worked at the upscale club and then moved down the ladder to shadier and seedier things, but they were few and far between. Out of the 50 girls I worked with five were married with children (and still are). They were from all walks of life and of the ten I've kept in contact with seven of them have gone on to own very successful businesses born from their contacts at that club. Most girls were a mystery and I kept it that way...I didn't want their issues to follow me out of the club.

What I can tell you about the time period I worked (1990-94)...most of us were out for cash and couldn't make that kind of bank in a normal 9-5 job. We were also more into the burlesque/show bar side of stripping (we actually danced) and did not dance topless/nude at all. Once every club started heading that direction, I got out took what I'd saved and moved on. It's extremely sad to me to see just how seedy/shady the industry has gotten since the time I left. We recently went into a local club and we were both appalled at what it had become since the time I worked there...ick.

I find it a bigger shame that some here (you know who you are) are throwing stones from the inside of their very own glass house...sorry to bust their myth of the seedy/shady/daddy issue/drug issue dancer (that was not the case with me)...
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We were also more into the burlesque/show bar side of stripping (we actually danced) and did not dance topless/nude at all
If you didn't take your clothes off, then it wasn't stripping.
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Aquanetsuperhold wrote:
We were also more into the burlesque/show bar side of stripping (we actually danced) and did not dance topless/nude at all
If you didn't take your clothes off, then it wasn't stripping.
In the county of the state I reside in, it was...
Until 1994, no one was allowed to "strip", go topless or nude unless they were a private club that didn't serve alcohol (BYOB). Bottoms stayed on and pasties were OK, but rare...in other words, we had "bikini bars". There were two nude bars, but they were in another county (and in very undesirable locations in the heart of some pretty seedy neighborhoods, therefore did not attract quality dancers or feature acts). The club I danced in had a steady stream of the top feature dancers in the world. They were scheduled one weekend a month and they were not allowed to dance topless or nude, but they still came and raked in the dough while they were here.

But thanks for pretending you know the laws everywhere and how things work in every part of the country...that's special :roll:
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You weren't a stripper bitch. Shut your mouth ho.
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PoisondOne wrote:
Aquanetsuperhold wrote:
We were also more into the burlesque/show bar side of stripping (we actually danced) and did not dance topless/nude at all
If you didn't take your clothes off, then it wasn't stripping.
But thanks for pretending you know the laws everywhere and how things work in every part of the country...that's special :roll:

How about the law of stirppers and people that go to strip clubs? If you don't take off your clothes- you aren't a stripper. Period. If you ask a REAL stipper or customer to compare her job to yours- she would laugh in your face.

According to Websters :
Stripper n; one who performs a striptease
Striptease n; a burlesque act in which a performer removes clothing piece by piece

No clothes or topless = Stripper
Did not dance topless/nude at all = Go go dancer/ drunk girls dancing on a bar. (average weekend night in any bar in the big city)

Your county law probably says its legal to fuck your brother, but it doesn't mean its right.

Thanks for just plain old pretending. :roll:
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New Jersey is a bikini bar state. If they serve liquor, they can't be topless or nude. I worked there a bit. It is different than dancing topless or nude. The girls did make a lot of money, but it was more like go-go dancing than stripping. I have to give them credit, they worked way harder than we did in the topless clubs!
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Aquanetsuperhold wrote:

How about the law of stirppers and people that go to strip clubs? If you don't take off your clothes- you aren't a stripper. Period. If you ask a REAL stipper or customer to compare her job to yours- she would laugh in your face.

According to Websters :
Stripper n; one who performs a striptease
Striptease n; a burlesque act in which a performer removes clothing piece by piece

No clothes or topless = Stripper
Did not dance topless/nude at all = Go go dancer/ drunk girls dancing on a bar. (average weekend night in any bar in the big city)

Your county law probably says its legal to fuck your brother, but it doesn't mean its right.

Thanks for just plain old pretending. :roll:
Maybe by your definition. I worked my ass off and made a boatload of dough...nude or not. Bottom line was my first point was valid that not ALL of us who choose to perform the act of DANCING FOR MONEY have "daddy issues" as you so broadly painted it with your narrow minded and foolish brush. Is it my fault my paychecks said "entertainer/stripper" and my state laws stated you couldn't go completely nude or completely topless? If so, then by you it wasn't considered stripping (even though strip club was behind the title of the bar I worked in). And yes, I have an issue with you having met you personally and gotten the same attitude at that time...know it all, condescending and full of yourself.

FYI...striptease...two words and the last one is important. The art of the tease is just that...an art. It is harder to earn money because essentially there is no payoff. I had to be able to entice, tease and create an aura of mystery without revealing the goods. Many strippers can't master the art of it and those that can work their asses off and are paid very well for what they do.
amandap wrote:New Jersey is a bikini bar state. If they serve liquor, they can't be topless or nude. I worked there a bit. It is different than dancing topless or nude. The girls did make a lot of money, but it was more like go-go dancing than stripping. I have to give them credit, they worked way harder than we did in the topless clubs!
Thank you! Maryland is no longer this way, but it was and at the time it was considered stripping or striptease to the people who worked and patronized the clubs we worked in (and to Mr. Taxman and the lawmakers). I appreciate you stating that we still worked hard and for giving credit to those of us who aren't "esteemed" enough to wear the "stripper" title :lol:
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I've changed my mind, it is stripping I just didn't see it that way. Like a whore who doesn't fuck, you're still whoring but you just don't go all the way. :lol:
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That's not my definition, that is every real stripper, customer and Webster's definition of a stripper. I worked very hard in a club / bar, and make a boat load of money, but that doens't make me a stripper. Its not your fault your job didn't match the title they gave you on your pay check.
Its not your fault that NJ is a no stripper state. It is your fault that you actually call yourself a stripper, when you really weren't.

Where exactly, you retard, did I say that every stripper has daddy issues. I said MOST, not all. I worked in several clubs and they are all the same. I still have friends that manage two different clubs, have been in the game for 30 years and nothing has changed.

And yes, I have an issue with you having met you personally and gotten the same attitude at that time...know it all, condescending and full of
yourself.
Really? You actually think you've met me. I love that. Let me guess- my name was printed on a can of hairspray you have so according to your, "if its in writing logic" that must be true. So yeah that was me alright. You nut.

FYI- Striptease is one word.

Everyone works hard, big deal. Men are dumb and will give any chick that shakes her ass money- that isn't art. That's the American way.



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Aquanetsuperhold wrote:FYI- Streaptease- is one word.


Never heard of it.
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CrouchingStonerHiddenBong wrote:
Aquanetsuperhold wrote:FYI- Streaptease- is one word.


Never heard of it.
LOL! Striptease Fixed! Thats what I get typing on the fly.
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Aquanetsuperhold wrote:Really? You actually think you've met me. I love that. Let me guess- my name was printed on a can of hairspray you have so according to your, "if its in writing logic" that must be true. So yeah that was me alright. You nut.
Introduced backstage at a show as you were coming off of a tour bus by a mutual friend who used to post at Sludge...as a matter of fact, we were introduced by first name and screen name. This was also confirmed by someone in the band who was a little shocked to see me talking to you and wondered how I knew you. So, yes, we've met.

Out of respect for your privacy and the anonymous nature of this board, that's as far as this portion of the conversation goes...except to say that my impression of you on the boards and in person has not changed. I do think you carry yourself with a very condescending, know it all attitude that isn't very attractive (even though you are a beautiful girl). That statement was made the night I met you to our mutual friend(s) and it stands to this day. Not that my opinion matters in your world.
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No, it really doesn't. But for the record. The only person I know that use to post on sludge was shawn. Only one other person knows me and my screen name and I can't remember a single instant where we were both in a situation you described where i was introduced to someone with my screen name and real name. Seeing that one other person and I met at one show and I wasn't coming off a tour bus or even on a tour bus for that show. SO I have no idea who you met, but it wasn't me. Sorry, But either way- I do know a lot.
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We'll have to agree to disagree on this one, I have no reason to lie about meeting you once and seeing you at a Samantha 7 show that a different mutual friend (acquaintance) also attended. Either way, none of us know you but for a few minutes outside of internet message boards/email. It's all good with me either way...nothing wrong with stating my case for getting annoyed with your posting style and online persona.

Carry on with the stripper discussion...nothing to see here and if there is out of mutual respect for privacy (and to not annoy the rest of the board), it will be taken to PM if need be. Sorry for the disruption :oops:
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One of my close friends is a former stripper, I didn't meet her until after she stopped dancing, but she's told me a lot about her background, and unfortunately her childhood lived up to a lot of stripper stereotypes. Her dad was abusive towards her mom and also to her and her brother, they had to hide from him for years and haven't seen him in over a decade. Her mom was a longtime drug user(meth), and danced to support her habit and whatever was left over went to support her kids. My friend was in and out of foster care and group homes and started stripping at 16 because it was the easiest way to make the most amount of money without working typical teenage jobs like McDonalds, so she could support herself and live on her own. She was also molested as a kid and lost her virginity at 12. But she's also a wife now, and a very good mom. I love the shit out of her, despite her fucked up background she's a very funny and positive person.
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I have met a few "former" strippers who are now doing hair. One girl I work with now...she's a trip! She told me she used to strip at this place called The Playpen. It's a really trashy, low rent kind of club, but she needed money and doesn't have the stripper bod. Anyway, she told me she would have to get super drunk just to be able to do it, she would be a total nervous wreck. Once all the strippers were painting their nipples for the night with this bright, glittery paint. I guess it was "Glittery Nipple" night. She said she was so bombed that she had the paint all over her...smeared on her belly and all over her face. Big giant, sloppy circles around her nipples!

She told me she makes more tips at the salon than she did at the club! hahaha...she's wild.
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EuroKing wrote:In porn unless you are Jenna J. you need to get down on your knees to get a part in that movie.
Obviously you know nothing about porn... in HOLLYWOOD mainstream movie world you have to get down on your knees to get a part... in porn you don't need to suck anybody until you get on the set...

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:lol:

I swear to God I'm reading a book about the history of porn right now, and I just read an interview where Sharon Mitchell said the same thing.
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Whoa.


In one post, you went from a stripper to a whore.
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Flowerfairy
Have you actually ever stripped? I'm curious.

I'm not going to say that you are wrong. For some people stripping does affect the mind. But I wonder if they were the most mentally healthy to start with. I don't believe that it affected my mind. I did not feel like a commodity nor did I feel exploited. One could argue that at many jobs that don't have you taking your clothes off may make you feel that way as well.

Everyone's experience is different. Everyone makes different choices. I never felt used but maybe that is because I never let anyone use me. I don't feel that I "sold my body for money." It's still mine and I never let anyone use it. As I said it never bothered me to be naked. I never did anything that made me feel uncomfortable. Everyone has different boundaries. As an example, I did not work in contact clubs. I had friends who did because it did not bother them. It bothered me. I would work in a a nude club and maybe they would not.

Maybe I got paid to take off my clothes and so what? I took them off and got paid for it. Does that mean anything?

I know plenty of girls who never stripped who would fuck a guy after dinner and a movie and never get a return phone call. Or girls who would suck a dick hoping to get a boyfriend or a husband. I think thats going to fuck you up alot more than dancing in a thong!
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CrouchingStonerHiddenBong wrote::lol:

I swear to God I'm reading a book about the history of porn right now, and I just read an interview where Sharon Mitchell said the same thing.
THE OTHER HOLLYWOOD

(NAMEDROP: I actually met her one night a few years back and spoke to
her about that book)

She essentially said that a casting couch COULDN'T exist in an industry
where you had sex during the actual work.

I guess that makes sense.... or maybe not.
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