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Suppose the same could be said fer groupies, too?
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I danced for a short time and i always had a great relationship with my dad. I was however the "ugly duckling" at school and i used dancing as a fuck you to all the guys who made fun or the guys who didnt give me any attention

ETA I know women who do it because they are natural exhibitionists and love the high it gives them.
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A LOT of them have warrants or owe money or are hiding from ex husbands, and if they strip they can make money and not be traced. They usually "stay with a friend" and have not signed a lease. They don't even use their real names, and the money they make is in cash and not taxed. Not that they save it for a rainy day, it's spent as fast as they make it.
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I personally did not...nor did any of the girls I was friends with from the club...have any daddy issues, always was close with him and still am. I was raised in a comfortable family that is still close knit. Most of us strippers from my time were very secure in the women we were and are. It takes a smart and strong woman to make stripping a good career and have goals beyond it as well. I did it for 12 years because there was nothing else I wanted to do that I could be myself in and have the freedom to work when I felt like it. I am simply not a 9-5 person and stripping is what I chose to do about it.

Never been beaten or raped nor have I been degraded into a horrible psychological state. Too secure and strong minded for that...

I was never hiding from any one nor did I have any outstanding debts and most of the other girls I knew were the same as me...From good backgrounds but loved the job and the freedom it provided by making so much money. In fact...the girls (including myself) I knew were all in college, paying for their tuition in cash and NOT being left with thousands in student loans...not single mothers...and smart with the job and the $$$. Just open minded women. Some of us even filed quarterly taxes and paid them because we were also doing magazines and being paid for that in company checks from the magazines which provided proof of income to the government!

I did it because I loved the job...loved dancing and listening to music all night, loved traveling around the world for it, loved most of the men as my regulars were all very nice, upstanding men. Loved the freedom...loved making it my own and of course loved the money I made. And it was pretty attractive to musicians as well...but most of them knew me long before I became a stripper!

I used a stage name to protect my private world from the strip world. Two separate things in my book. As is the reason for most other girls. It also helps create the fantasy of the strip club. Do you really want a dance from Hazel or Edwina?

I not only signed a lease for my own place...but kept it for 8 years in Vegas and also in L.A. and London. All the girls I personally knew had their own apartments or were buying homes for themselves. I was one of many independent and intelligent strippers that traveled the world making fist fulls of cash. Stripping bought me my home in England in cash...again...no debt there either! It did bring a certain amount of financial security into my life that I would have not had working in a cubicle.

I was a groupie because it is in my blood and being a stripper was as well. I knew from the time I was 6 years old I would be both...not sure what they were then...but I knew. No other reason...
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I danced for 8 years, from 21- 29. I do not have "daddy issues"( have a great relationship with him, still do!) I was not raped or sexually abused. I was not poor white trash. My parents are still together. I have a Masters degree. I was not an ugly duckling. I do not crave large amounts of attention. I do not have low self esteem/self worth. I never dated a customer. I have never had sex for money. I do not now, nor did I ever owe large amounts of money. I have never been addicted to drugs. I am not an alcoholic (I don't drink!). I havenever been on the run from the law, and ex husband/boyfriend or the tax man. I have nevr been arrested.

I danced because I made a LOT of money doing it. It was easy and fun and I paid my taxes. I did not do it to validate myself. I did not do it to prove I was attractive. I knew I was attractive and that I could make a lot of money dancing. I could make my own schedule and have time for what I wanted to do (which at that time was get my masters). I saved a lot of money and bought a house on the beach at 25. I had the capital to open my own business at 29 without a loan.

I met a lot of nice girls dancing. True, we did not have much in common except the dancing, but that doesn't mean that I did not like them or that they were not great people. Some girls were catty, most were not. As for customers, some were really nice guys, some were not. Most guys, especially the older ones were nice.

I danced because I was comfortable in my body (still am) and because I have no problem with being naked. I still don't. Why people over analyze why we stripped I do not know. For me (and most girls I knew then) it was an easy way to make money doing something we had no problem with.
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BTW, the reason I used to fuck musicians is just as simple. They were hot and I was horny. I never fucked a guy because he was in a band. I fucked him because he was hot and I like to fuck hot guys who know how to do it.

I imagine the reason they wanted to fuck me was the same...they wanted to fuck a hot girl who knows how to do it.
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Probably. I have no use for strippers or sex in general.
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Okay, first off there isn't a stripper in the world that's going to even be aware that they're as fucked in the head as they really are. Want your answer? Ask someone whose bartended, bounced, or managed a club and they'll tell you that 99% of them are crazy bitches. The 1% is that one you find in a BLUE FUCKING MOON that's not on drugs, wildly promiscuous and in college. That one in a blue moon doesn't carouse with the other ladies.

I guess I can't answer your question but for women such as prostitutes, strippers, or porn stars, the sex industry is the lowest of the caste in terms of earning coin. I don't think one diagnosis will do the trick.
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amandap wrote:BTW, the reason I used to fuck musicians is just as simple. They were hot and I was horny. I never fucked a guy because he was in a band. I fucked him because he was hot and I like to fuck hot guys who know how to do it.

I imagine the reason they wanted to fuck me was the same...they wanted to fuck a hot girl who knows how to do it.
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I know several girls who work in the local titty bar. Most of them are either single parents or wives/girlfriends of low-earning blue-collar guys. They want better for their kids than the skin-of-their-teeth stigmatized bullshit of welfare or working for Wal-Mart, and it just happens that stripping pays better than most "honest" jobs. I was surprised to find out, however, that most of them bring home less a night than I did when I tended bar in a very busy (non-titty-bar) dive.
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chickenona wrote: I was surprised to find out, however, that most of them bring home less a night than I did when I tended bar in a very busy (non-titty-bar) dive.

We have a club about 5 miles from my house where the dancers walk home afterwards because they don't make enough money to take a cab.
They prostitute in the backroom and in the parking lot (openly) as well.
There are 5 of them living in a 2 bedroom house in my neighborhood without water or electricity because they can't afford to pay the bills.
They would make more money working at McDonalds. :?

I knew strippers in Atlanta that were pulling in a $1000 a night without any illegal extra cirriculars.

All Strip Bar and Strippers are NOT created equal.
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What the fuck has become of strippers since I stopped? Seriously...not enough $$ to take a cab ride home? I mean...all the girls I knew were in school, we made on the average $1,000 a night (with no extra activity mind you) and had productive and good lives the we sustained respectably in the broad day light!!! Some of us made world wide careers out of the job. None of us were psycho nor did we have low collar men in our lives...not one I knew did.
Sounds like I got out when the getting was still good!
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Quennie I agree with you. I know that with this economy, guys aren't gonna put out any money (including $1's unless it's Miss America on stage) so they surely won't fork out any more cash unless there is sex involved off the stage. Some girls do and I don't hold that aganst them if they can do it. I couldn't do it cause the econ was boomin and really didn't have to. But it has changed. More girls needing money and more men without it. Makes for a bad strip club and not a fun job........unless fine ass rockers are involved!!! :lol: I'm glad I'm out too. I saw it tanking and took a hike.
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Corabi wrote:Suppose the same could be said fer groupies, too?
the same can be said for musicians too. Very insecure and in dire need for attention. I've always said musicians are the male equivalent of strippers.

I find this thread amusing. This thread has more well adjusted entertainers that I've ever met in my life. LOL! Not to say they may not be as well adjusted as they like to pretend or portray, but if true- they are the rarest of the rare. most have Daddy issues, mommy issues, self-esteem issues, drug and sexual abuse issues, legal issues, money issues, boyfriend/baby daddy issues etc. Drama galore!

SinCityqueen, if you honestly say or think none of the girls you worked with didn't have daddy issues you, are in denial or clueless. I'll call that bullshit right there. I also have a bridge I would like to sell you. From your description- sounds more like an escort ring. But I'm not judging entertainers- They work hard, but 99.8% aren't well adjusted people doing it for the love of the sport.

I also love how every entertainer has a masters or is getting one.
Alot have kids they try to support. Looser boyfriends of family members they are trying to supportA lot have no skills to do anything else, or think they don't. A lot love the money and are willing to do what it takes to get the designer crap they all buy .

I knew of one entertainer that bought her house and car with they cash she saved, but the stupid chick lost both and in jail for tax evasion.

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Caustic Queen wrote:
chickenona wrote: I was surprised to find out, however, that most of them bring home less a night than I did when I tended bar in a very busy (non-titty-bar) dive.

We have a club about 5 miles from my house where the dancers walk home afterwards because they don't make enough money to take a cab.
They prostitute in the backroom and in the parking lot (openly) as well.
There are 5 of them living in a 2 bedroom house in my neighborhood without water or electricity because they can't afford to pay the bills.
They would make more money working at McDonalds. :?

I knew strippers in Atlanta that were pulling in a $1000 a night without any illegal extra cirriculars.

All Strip Bar and Strippers are NOT created equal.
I think internet killed the stripping industry.

Why pay hundreds of dollars in a night to have a beautiful girl dance naked for you when you can just stay home and have hundreds of beautiful girls doing the nasty for the cost of high speed internet a month?

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You can see things how you like Aquanet...but those are the girls I knew and am still friends with. I didn't say that all of them were normal and adjusted. But those girls do exist. I know that towards the end of my time there were more and more of those girls you described.

And Masters degrees...only one among the girls I know. But the rest of us do have Bachleors in various things and are enjoying the many successes that stripping afforded us lucky, smart girls to get. We all traveled the world going to do shows at different strip clubs, did TV and magazines and made the most out of it all...we weren't your normal house girls. In fact I met all my girlies when we were all flown out to Vegas to do the grand opening of LIl' D's back in 95...and we all stayed because of the opportunities and $$$. And I did do quarterly taxes so no need for me to be sitting in jail. I paid plenty!!

I am not delusional just actually worked in the biz for 12 years and saw it from a different angle and saw the girls as human beings...not preconceived notions of fucked up little daddy issues...which I know for a fact that the girls I hung with never had as we have all met our families and are all close to them. I also sat in the dressing room and saw another angle... Which was not always pretty but my club had a very strict manager that kept us all ladies while in the club...even swearing was a 500 dollar fine at the time! He was also there to get the girls out of bad situations when rarely neccessary. So when you have people like that around to create a family vibe...then the girls tend to have a better chance at being smarter than the places where the mangement treats them like meat.

And no...no escort ring by any means, never been and never will, wouoldn't even do porn that I was offered...I worked for Deja Vu clubs for years...all over the world. And did features with many others for a long time. I made it a career and kept with the plans I had...and here I am. Living off my savings with two homes and plenty of freedom to be who and what I want and pursue my true goals and not be stuck in some cubicle or life dergrading job. How stupid could I have been to acheive that as a stripper and be dedicated to my future while still living the life I wanted and getting a bachelor's with absolutely no student loans looming over my head? Ignorant delusional me!!!

Tell me...Aquanet...were you a stripper? Have you worked in the biz? Because if you have and that is how you see the girls then you must be seeing yourself as that as well. I know I am none of what you have described and am not alone in the stripper world in that aspect. I have always been stable in myself and stripped because I could, enjoyed the freedom and just happened to be good at it...and I did know when I was a child I would be one...wasn't sure what it was...saw it on some t.v. show and knew.
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i was a stripper dj for 6 years.

one thing i learned was that ALL CHICKS ARE FUCKED.

not just strippers.


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and I did know when I was a child I would be one...wasn't sure what it was...saw it on some t.v. show and knew.
Well that says a lot right there.

I'm sure for you it was always raining $100 dollar bills and it was sunshine, puppies and rainbows. It was everything you imagined and more. Best job a girl could wish for. Good for you! You are 1% of everyone in the Entertainment Industry.

I did work in the industry. I wasn't an entertainer. I was a House Mom first, then Management. So I did see it from the dressing room, stage, the hospital, the jail, the repo guys towing their cars out of the lot, the bad boob jobs, their babydaddy drama, restraining orders, rehabs, points of veiw. There are a few nice girls. But over all, be it the regular girls or the features, they all come with a a full set of samsonite luggage. I was the one hooking them up with rehab centers, lawyers, tax people, day care etc. But after a while you realize you are wasting your time.

I made great money, but left because it was like working in an asylum. No matter what club, and how high end it is, the girls are all the same. Granted some are flat out crackwhore and there are others in the highend Champgne rooms making thousands, but really there isn't much difference. The mentality and motivation is the same. But you won't ever hear me say the entertainers don't work hard for their money. I always respected them, but wouldn't want to be stuck in an elevator with them either.
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Kid-Wicked wrote:i was a stripper dj for 6 years.

one thing i learned was that ALL CHICKS ARE FUCKED.

not just strippers.


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My sister stripped for years.All I can say about her is... she's all that and a bag of chips too!

I have met many different girls over the years that she worked with.Some great people and some not.I do recall meeting an older woman,when my sister was starting out,who'd had a real tough life.Great lady despite it.She'd been way up and way down.Mostly down.When I met her she was supporting two kids.I told her to pack it in and go home to them.She just shook her head , looked me dead straight in the eye and said that her kids were the toughest pimp she'd ever worked for and if this was all she could do to support them she was going to keep on doing it.Believe me this lady knew plenty about pimps.

Any woman selling it,whatever it may be,has people around her with their hands out.Unbelievable the amounts of money made off these women.I don't care what end of the chain she thinks she is; if she made tons of money or very little,someone pimped more money off her than she will ever see.
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smcangel_1991 wrote:
Flowerfairy wrote:Psychologists reckon that most women who take their clothes off for money would have what is called "daddy issues". These type of women ususally crave male attention form a young age, having had a weak bond with their father, so will resort to extreme measures for male attention.

Also~ most women like this prefer male company because of their issues and are extremely catty and competitive while with other women due to their insecurites and jealousies.

Do any of you find this to be true?

Please discuss!
I think this is a crock of shit! A typical woman craves male attention, it doesn't matter what age (after puberty). And quite frankly I tend to hang around with men more just because I am more comfortable with them than I am women. And usually guy friends are more loyal than female friends. Women start a helluva more shit than men, therefore I avoid the drama and hang with the guys.

Hanging with the guys is how YOU get male attention.
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smcangel_1991 wrote:

Hanging with the guys is how YOU get male attention.
Can't help it I'd rather bs with a bunch of guys than listen to a bunch of hens cluck and crow. So what if I get a little attention every now and then. :roll:[/quote]

Hey now, men can post like that but women?

This is great. My wife has always gotten along better with males.
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my wife is a nurse,she has seen plenty of strippers in the ER,one sob story after the other

she got one girl to go to nursing school,she seems happy now
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Yeah, I was only in the industry from when I was 19 to 22yrs and WOW, we were all screwed up in different ways. Probably due to childhood, etc...There is no way to apply blanket daddy issues because it is all circumstantial. I made the conscious decision to do it because I was looking for an easy way to make a lot of money - in my town, strippers work way too hard for too little. I only stripped in a club on two occasions but mainly I did out-calls for various local escort services. I partied on other people's drugs but never had a habit for anything, never dated a trick, never met anyone who became a better person due to choosing this life and watched many people lose everything. (clients as well as girls) The money was the fastest, easiest of anything I've done in my life even up to this point, but it is an extremely lonely, cold, superficial business and that is what I could not deal with. I had to get out of it because it was actually causing emotional problems that were not there before I started which kept me from making money in the end.

I almost wish there was some kind of mandate that new sex workers must observe a handful of random, seasoned workers to see what they turn into if they aspire to unmet goals and stay too long down in it.

I'm married now with a house in the suburbs and a good career in construction with a company doing well in spite of the economy. Yay me, another exception to the rule in some sense.
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jonah wrote:Yeah, I was only in the industry from when I was 19 to 22yrs and WOW, we were all screwed up in different ways. Probably due to childhood, etc...There is no way to apply blanket daddy issues because it is all circumstantial. I made the conscious decision to do it because I was looking for an easy way to make a lot of money - in my town, strippers work way too hard for too little. I only stripped in a club on two occasions but mainly I did out-calls for various local escort services. I partied on other people's drugs but never had a habit for anything, never dated a trick, never met anyone who became a better person due to choosing this life and watched many people lose everything. (clients as well as girls) The money was the fastest, easiest of anything I've done in my life even up to this point, but it is an extremely lonely, cold, superficial business and that is what I could not deal with. I had to get out of it because it was actually causing emotional problems that were not there before I started which kept me from making money in the end.

I almost wish there was some kind of mandate that new sex workers must observe a handful of random, seasoned workers to see what they turn into if they aspire to unmet goals and stay too long down in it.

I'm married now with a house in the suburbs and a good career in construction with a company doing well in spite of the economy. Yay me, another exception to the rule in some sense.
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Chevyman wrote:my wife is a nurse,she has seen plenty of strippers in the ER,one sob story after the other
Yeah but the money is worth it! :lol:
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SinCityQuennie wrote:I personally did not...nor did any of the girls I was friends with from the club...have any daddy issues, always was close with him and still am. I was raised in a comfortable family that is still close knit. Most of us strippers from my time were very secure in the women we were and are. It takes a smart and strong woman to make stripping a good career and have goals beyond it as well. I did it for 12 years because there was nothing else I wanted to do that I could be myself in and have the freedom to work when I felt like it. I am simply not a 9-5 person and stripping is what I chose to do about it.

Never been beaten or raped nor have I been degraded into a horrible psychological state. Too secure and strong minded for that...
Sure

If those girls could they would rather be a respected real estate agent making at least the same amount of money. Making real business conversation, attend meetings and seminars etc
Rather than working evening and night showing their body and not using 1 brain cell. In a dark, smoky environment.

The reason anyone starts a stripclub, porn biz or brothel is to make money and exploit the sex workers sexually. In porn unless you are Jenna J. you need to get down on your knees to get a part in that movie. In stripping its the same, whenever a girl wanna work extra she has to get down on her knees as well. Or she has to suck off the boss for a few $ whenever the boss feels like it. "Hey baby dont cry its $50 for 5 minutes work !!!" "Oh what the heck then, I could always use some extra cash"
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