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TenBenny wrote:He's still going on about Hillary in relation to the Russia stuff? Dude, we're *so* past that now.
He was somewhat popular during his campaign. His popularity has declined since. Therefore, he wants to pretend it's still 2016 and trash talking Hillary Clinton will make him more popular.

Bottom line? He's a douche. :lol:
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DEATH ROW JOE wrote:LMFAO, that does not contradict anything I wrote dumb ass. I never said higher interest rates attract borrowers.
You actually did and you are the one that's clearly confused. But good job of copying and pasting some other shit you just looked up to sound intelligent!! You're not.
LMFAO, nice meltdown. Never said higher interest rates attract borrowers. Here is the quote:

Rates are set by supply and demand. The Fed can drive down rates by buying bonds and increasing demand for bonds. Expected increase in deficits will lower demand for govt bonds and drive up rates. The Treasury had to offer higher rates to attract borrowers since Trump is promising to increase the deficit with an irresponsible and unneeded tax cut.
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TenBenny wrote:He's still going on about Hillary in relation to the Russia stuff? Dude, we're *so* past that now.
He was somewhat popular during his campaign. His popularity has declined since. Therefore, he wants to pretend it's still 2016 and trash talking Hillary Clinton will make him more popular.

Bottom line? He's a douche. :lol:
Absolutely. And his demeanor and lack of composure really contribute to people's perception of him. When you're whining and complaining all the time, you just don't look like a leader.

The bottom line is that during the campaign, he had people on the ropes. Now everyone's got him on the ropes, and we're seeing what a Trump in the White House looks like when he's backed into a corner. We simply get repeated variations of "Nuh-uh!"
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Trump fails again. Total disaster. Worst President ever. Loser.

Labor Secretary Nominee Andy Puzder Expected to Withdraw Nomination
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TenBenny wrote:
That-guy wrote:
TenBenny wrote:He's still going on about Hillary in relation to the Russia stuff? Dude, we're *so* past that now.
He was somewhat popular during his campaign. His popularity has declined since. Therefore, he wants to pretend it's still 2016 and trash talking Hillary Clinton will make him more popular.

Bottom line? He's a douche. :lol:
Absolutely. And his demeanor and lack of composure really contribute to people's perception of him. When you're whining and complaining all the time, you just don't look like a leader.

The bottom line is that during the campaign, he had people on the ropes. Now everyone's got him on the ropes, and we're seeing what a Trump in the White House looks like when he's backed into a corner. We simply get repeated variations of "Nuh-uh!"
I am undecided which would make me happier
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The Golden Shower footage of Trump is Russia being released
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Machado wrote:
I am undecided which would make me happier
Melania filing for divorce while Trump is POTUS
or The Golden Shower footage of Trump is Russia being released
I'm pretty sure we ALL know which choice would make you happier.
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Time For Trump To Resign?
http://www.hoover.org/research/time-trump-resign
by Richard A. Epstein
via Defining Ideas (Hoover Institution)
Monday, February 13, 2017

The nearly four weeks since President Donald Trump’s inauguration have been the most divisive period of American politics since the end of the Second World War. The sharp lines that everyone is drawing in the sand pose a serious threat to the United States. On the one side stand many conservatives and populists who are rejoicing in the Trump victory as the salvation of a nation in decline. On other side sit the committed progressives who are still smarting from an election in which they were trounced in the electoral college, even as Hillary Clinton garnered a clear majority of the popular vote.

As a classical liberal who did not vote for either candidate, I stand in opposition to both groups. And after assessing Trump’s performance during the first month of his presidency, I think it is clear that he ought to resign. However, it important to cut through the partisan hysteria to identify both what Trump is doing right and wrong in order to explain my assessment of his presidency to date.

On the positive side is the simple fact that Trump won the election. What is right about Trump is what was wrong with Clinton—her promise to continue, and even expand, the policies of the Obama administration. The day after the election, it was clear that none of her policy proposals would be implemented under a Trump presidency, coupled with a Republican Congress. As I have long argued, there are good reasons to critique the progressive world view. Progressives believe that reduced levels of taxation and a strong dose of deregulation would do little or nothing to advance economic growth. In their view, only monetary and fiscal policy matter for dealing with sluggish growth, so they fashion policy on the giddy assumption that their various schemes to advance union power, consumer protection, environmental, insurance, and financial market regulation—among others—only affect matters of distribution and fairness, but will have no discernible effect on economic growth. In making this assumption, they assume, as did many socialists and New Dealers in the 1930s, that it is possible to partition questions of justice and redistribution from those of economic prosperity.

In taking this position, they fail to account for how administrative costs, major uncertainty, and distorted incentives affect capital formation, product innovation, and job creation. Instead, today’s progressives have their own agenda for wealth creation that includes such remedies as a $15 minimum wage, stronger union protections, and an equal pay law with genuine bite. But these policies will necessarily reduce growth by imposing onerous barriers on voluntary exchange. The fact that there was any economic growth at all under the Obama administration—and even then, it was faltering and anemic—had one cause: the Republican Congress that blocked the implementation of further progressive policies and advanced a pro-growth agenda.

Sadly, both President Obama and his various administrative heads pushed hard on the regulatory levers that were still available to them. And so we got a Department of Labor (DOL) decision to raise the exemption levels under the Fair Labor Standards Act from just over $23,000 to just over $47,000, in ways that would have disrupted, without question, several major segments of the economy for whom the statutory definition of an hour does not serve as a workable measure of account. Thus, at one stroke, DOL compromised the status of graduate students, whose studies and work are often inseparable; of tech employees, whose compensation often comes in the form of deferred stock payments; and of gig workers, who are employed by the job and not the hour. At the same time, the general counsel of the National Labor Relations Board has taken steps to wreck highly successful, long-term franchising arrangements, by announcing henceforth that the franchisor may on a case-by-case basis be treated as an employer subject to the collective bargaining obligations of the NLRA. These, and similar decisions, are acts of wealth destruction, and they offer one powerful explanation, among many, for the decline in the labor participation rate to its lowest levels since World War II.

The misguided opposition to the Trump administration extends far more broadly. I was an advisor to the MAIN coalition (Midwest Alliance for Infrastructure Now) in the now successful effort to undo the roadblocks that the Obama administration put in the path of the Dakota Access Pipeline, and still find it incomprehensible that any administration could engage in a set of collusive rearguard actions to block a pipeline that met or exceeded every government standard in terms of need, safety, and historical and environmental protection. The handwringing of the Obama administration over the Keystone XL pipeline was equally inexcusable. Two expertly crafted executive orders from the Trump administration removed the roadblocks simply by allowing the standard review processes of the Army Corps of Engineers and other agencies to run their course. Nonetheless, virtually every initiative to deregulate that comes from the Trump administration is greeted with howls of protest, whether the topic be healthcare, banking, brokerage, or consumer protection. Yet these very deregulations explain why the stock market has surged: collectively, they will help revive a stagnant economy.

Worse still are the attacks on the integrity and independence of Judge Neil Gorsuch from most, but not all, progressives. Georgetown University’s Neal Katyal should be singled out for his praise of Gorsuch as a person and a judge. Unfortunately, the vast majority of progressives, like Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer, wail that Gorsuch is not a mainstream judge, is not sufficiently supportive of progressive ideals, and, most critically, is not Judge Merrick Garland. The United States sails in treacherous waters when members of either party think that any judge appointed by the opposition is not fit for service on the United States Supreme Court unless he publicly denounces the President who nominated him for that high office. I have long believed that any nominee should be judged on his or her record, without being called on to play rope-a-dope before hostile senators who only wish to bait, trap, and embarrass the nominee.

It seems clear that if President Trump went about his job in a statesmanlike manner, the progressive counterattack would surely fail, and a sane Republican party could gain the support of a dominant share of the electorate for at least the next two election cycles, if not more.

Yet there are deeper problems, because President Trump’s anti-free trade agenda will hurt—if not devastate—the very people whom he wants to help. Extensive trade between the United States and Mexico is indispensable for the prosperity of both countries. The looming trade war threatens that win/win position. The notion that the United States should run positive trade balances with every country is an absurd position to take in international economic relations, lest every country has the right to claim the same preferred status for itself. Yet it has never occurred to Trump that a negative trade balance amounts to a vote of confidence by other countries that it is safe to invest in the United States, allowing the United States to create new industries and new jobs. Nor does he understand that any effort to be successful in the export market requires importing cheap components from foreign firms—an oversight evident from his ill-conceived executive order calling, whenever legal, for American pipe on an American pipelines. If our trade partners retaliate, the current stock market surge will take on a different complexion. The Dow may be high, but the variation in future prices will be high as well. If Congress thwarts his anti-trade agenda, the domestic reforms should yield lasting benefits. If Congress caves, or if Trump works by aggressive executive order, the entire system could come tumbling down.

Speaking of executive orders, the President’s hasty and disastrous order dealing with immigrants has vast implications for America’s position in the world. In a global economy, the United States cannot afford to let petty protectionism keep the best talent from coming here for education and staying later for work. I, for one, believe that his executive order exceeds his executive powers. Others, like Michael McConnell, disagree. But no matter which way one comes down on its legality, nothing excuses its faulty rollout, petty nationalism, exaggerated fears of terrorism, and disruptive economic effects. The Trump administration agenda desperately needs to be rethought from the ground up by a deliberative process in which the President relies on his Cabinet.

So the question remains: does Trump remain his own worst enemy? My fears are that he is too rigid and too uneducated to make the necessary shift to good leadership. By taking foolish and jingoist stances, Trump has done more than any other human being alive today to bring a sensible classical liberal agenda into disrepute. Then there is the matter of his character. The personal moral failings of the President include his vicious tweets, his self-righteous attitude, his shameless self-promotion, his petty resentments, his immoral flirtation with Vladimir Putin, his nonstop denigration of federal judges, his jawboning of American businesses, his predilection for conspiracy theories, his reliance on alternative facts, and his vindictive behavior toward his political opponents.

Hence, I think that there is ample reason to call for Trump’s resignation, even though I know full well that my advice will not be heeded. And this welcome outcome will not happen so long as the attack against him comes solely from progressive Democrats. Sensible Republicans should focus on the threat that he represents to their plan, and recall that the alternative is no longer Hillary Clinton, but Mike Pence. I think that Pence is unlikely to abandon the positive aspects of the Trump agenda, and there is some reason to hope that he will back off Trump’s suicidal positions on trade and immigration, and put a stop to the endless train of uncivil behaviors demeaning the office of the President. Some miracles happen, but a Trump transformation will not be one of them. Unfortunately, his excesses could power a progressive revival. Would that I had the power to say to Trump, “You’re fired!”
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Here's a long read for you, from the London Review of Books, entitled 'A Short History of the Trump Family'. Authored by Sidney Blumenthal, a former senior advisor to Bill Clinton. It's quite lengthy but very enjoyable, and sheds light on many aspects of Trump's background that were - and continue to be - glossed over:

https://www.lrb.co.uk/v39/n04/sidney-bl ... ump-family
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Obama nominee Janet Yellen in response to a question about what is behind the market runup:

"I think market participants likely are anticipating shifts in fiscal policy that will stimulate growth and perhaps raise earnings,"

http://news.morningstar.com/all/market- ... d-run.aspx

Sludge lounge economist DeathRow Joe says:

"It's the jobs data from 3 months and 24 days ago!! It would actually be a lot higher if Hillary were elected!! They increased interest rates for Trump because he's Hitler and that hurts the markets."
#Duh
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DRJ, I know you're taking the time out to school Monggolio on how to perform simple calculations, but I think his whole phantom economics act is a smokescreen. Surely the appeal for Monggolio is that no president has been quite as incest-friendly as Trump. The way Trump talks about Ivanka makes Monggolio's micropenis stiffer than Frank Zappa in the grave, and that's all she wrote.
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Some of the last things he said there are typical of what I've been saying all along, that Trump is completely snowed by his new job and has not one single clue what he's doing. He yammers his way through public statements saying incredibly empty idiotic shit like "We're going to stop the bad things and you're going to see a lot of very, very, very, very good good things..." or some other such meaningless stream of vague double-talk.

I am getting more and more of a whiff that his detractors in government are going to employ his hook-or-crook tactics to run him out of office by whatever means necessary. There's no way he lasts four years. Either he goes or the country goes.
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radiobed wrote:Obama nominee Janet Yellen in response to a question about what is behind the market runup:

"I think market participants likely are anticipating shifts in fiscal policy that will stimulate growth and perhaps raise earnings,"

http://news.morningstar.com/all/market- ... d-run.aspx
LMFAO, thanks for another laugh dumb ass. That quote does not give credit to Trump. Clinton proposed policies that were far more likely to boost economic growth. Trump merely promised the same crap that tanked the economy under Bush.

But here's another quote from Yellen's "Semiannual Monetary Policy Report to the Congress"
https://www.federalreserve.gov/newseven ... 70214a.htm
"it is too early to know what policy changes will be put in place or how their economic effects will unfold"

Oh well, you fail again.
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Trump not doing ESPN NCAA brackets ha ha ha
Good for him!

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DEATH ROW JOE wrote:That quote does not give credit to Trump. Clinton proposed policies that were far more likely to boost economic growth.
Well, this explains why you failed at Economics 101, apparently you are lacking a bit in comprehension. Are the market participants already anticipating policy of the administration after Trump gets impeached?!?

You are lucky you're swimming in friendly waters because you looked really fucking stupid today. Do yourself a favor in life, don't quit the machine shop to become a day trader!
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radiobed wrote:
DEATH ROW JOE wrote:That quote does not give credit to Trump. Clinton proposed policies that were far more likely to boost economic growth.
Well, this explains why you failed at Economics 101, apparently you are lacking a bit in comprehension. Are the market participants already anticipating policy of the administration after Trump gets impeached?!?

You are lucky you're swimming in friendly waters because you looked really fucking stupid today. Do yourself a favor in life, don't quit the machine shop to become a day trader!
For fuck sake, the Hoover Institution is calling for Trump to resign and he's been in office less than 4 weeks. Trump is a disaster for the economy and everyone knew he was going to be a disaster. Totally ridiculous to argue that the market appreciated in response to a Trump victory.

The Obama Years: The Best of Times to Be a Stock Investor
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/21/your ... .html?_r=0

But go ahead and believe Trump is doing wonderful things in DC:

US Special Ops chief: US government 'in unbelievable turmoil'
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/14/politics/ ... t-turmoil/

The head of US Special Operations Command said Tuesday that the US government is in "unbelievable turmoil," a situation that he suggested could undermine US efforts to fight adversaries such as ISIS.
"Our government continues to be in unbelievable turmoil. I hope they sort it out soon because we're a nation at war," Army Gen. Raymond "Tony" Thomas told a symposium in Maryland.
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The economy is hemorrhaging jobs and Buckwheat kicks off his 2020 campaign:

Trump Kicks Off His 2020 Reelection Campaign on Saturday
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... ay/516909/

The president is taking the permanent campaign to new levels with a political rally in Florida—the latest sign that he’s already planning for a second term.

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I agree that in fact Trump is in way over his head. He is trying to make laws, and forgets that judges can over rule him and shut him down. He continues to just act bat shit crazy, this guy is living in his own reality, and all the news sites, and polls are fake. His twitter rants are just bizarre.

I just hope he is not dumb enough to fuck with China, and push them to far. I also agree, no way this guy does 4 years, I thought 2 max, now I wondering maybe a year and he is out.

Hell not a 100 days in and we have news of Russian Fighter jets flying way to close to our battle ships. Think even Russia knows trump is turning into a lame duck, and is in way over his head and has no fucking clue what to do.
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tym wrote:Hell not a 100 days in and we have news of Russian Fighter jets flying way to close to our battle ships.
That's a first.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/18/politics/ ... ngagement/
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Trump sure tore CNN a new asshole just now!!!


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