Dump Shithole

[SebastianLeeDanzig]

Read some essay in a newspaper here analyzing Trump's meltdown and the interview in The Economist, where the author had a pretty amusing analogy: being cornered on his own confused policy, when he just rambles incoherently, blatantly showing his baffling ignorance on fundamental issues, Trump's daily life must feel like that nightmare where you're in front of the class and suddenly notice you're not wearing pants - only that Trump comes in butt-naked and just does not give a shit. I'm really starting to think he's mentally ill in some way.

[exitflagger]

I'm really starting to think he's mentally ill in some way.

I don't know. He has been insulated for so long by what society has allowed him to get away with that it's really more that he's sticking with a technique that has served him well all his life.

The strategy is to insist that the way he wants things to be is the way things ARE, regardless of and ignoring any evidence to the contrary. This is how he has made money all his life. You shut out pesky aspects like moral culpability, pangs of guilt over greed, anything that impedes the process of achieving the thing you can display as your spoils. You don't dwell on the little old lady you had to evict to develop a property into some money-making machine. You only pay attention to whatever is in your way and what it takes to grind that thing up under your wheels.

It was a ghastly despicable theory to take a monster like him and plug him into government so he can apply the same crass, empathy-devoid tactics to (in effect) the entire world. That's why the most disgusting thing Trump supporters can say in response to this amazing trainwreck is "He's just doing what we voted him in to do" as if they gave some ex-con 10 grand to carry out a hit on a family member, but hey "I didn't pull the trigger; he did". No, sorry. You fucking idiot. YOU did this. This is on you.

[Mojo]

Added to what Exitflagger said, the idea that a corrupt business man, who even during the debates was settling Trump University lawsuits, was some model of morality, is astounding to me. Although he never filed personal bankruptcy, his business ventures have filed six times. Six times. And people still lauded his business acumen. It is truly mindboggling how certain figures throughout history are able to gain massive followings on platforms of pure bullshit. and even more so in today's times of easy fact-checking and 24/7 media access. Joseph Smith, L. Ron Hubbard, The Heaven's Gate people, Jim Jones, Donald Trump. These people didn't take power like Hitler did. They were handed it. And that just blows my mind.

[SebastianLeeDanzig]

Joseph Smith, L. Ron Hubbard, The Heaven's Gate people, Jim Jones, Donald Trump. These people didn't take power like Hitler did. They were handed it. And that just blows my mind.

I don't see much of a difference. Hitler was democratically elected and handed the Reichstag Fire Decree and Enabling Act by Hindenburg.

[DEATH ROW JOE]

[Rageman]

Joseph Smith, L. Ron Hubbard, The Heaven's Gate people, Jim Jones, Donald Trump. These people didn't take power like Hitler did. They were handed it. And that just blows my mind.

I don't see much of a difference. Hitler was democratically elected and handed the Reichstag Fire Decree and Enabling Act by Hindenburg.

Hitler was never elected. Hindenburg and Von Papen placed him in power

from wiki
It was largely Papen, believing that Hitler could be controlled once he was in the government, who persuaded Hindenburg to appoint Hitler as Chancellor in a cabinet not under Nazi Party domination. However, Papen and his allies were quickly marginalized by Hitler and he left the government after the Night of the Long Knives, during which some of his confidantes were killed by the Nazis.

[Mojo]

Hitler was given what was basically a ceremonial position, and then he had his henchmen go around offing people. At least that's the way I remember it. Trump has yet to do that.

[eddie lee roth]

Here's David Letterman's view on Trump it's pretty good to bad he's retired now.

http://www.vulture.com/2017/03/david-le ... ation.html

[SebastianLeeDanzig]

Joseph Smith, L. Ron Hubbard, The Heaven's Gate people, Jim Jones, Donald Trump. These people didn't take power like Hitler did. They were handed it. And that just blows my mind.

I don't see much of a difference. Hitler was democratically elected and handed the Reichstag Fire Decree and Enabling Act by Hindenburg.

Hitler was never elected. Hindenburg and Von Papen placed him in power

from wiki
It was largely Papen, believing that Hitler could be controlled once he was in the government, who persuaded Hindenburg to appoint Hitler as Chancellor in a cabinet not under Nazi Party domination. However, Papen and his allies were quickly marginalized by Hitler and he left the government after the Night of the Long Knives, during which some of his confidantes were killed by the Nazis.

Under the Weimar Republic constitution, the chancellors couldn't be elected, they were always assigned by the president. Hitler's party NSDAP won several democratic elections before, granting them control of the parliament, until they found no legitimate way to deny him the office without risking civil war. Hitler couldn't just "take power". All these old power-hungry conservative Prussian idiots in charge were too afraid of the left to allow for adequate opposition until it was too late.

That constitution was flawed with the excessive authority at the hands of the president. Nonetheless, never think this couldn't happen anywhere else today.

[Turner Coates]

Here's David Letterman's view on Trump it's pretty good to bad he's retired now.

http://www.vulture.com/2017/03/david-le ... ation.html

"I mean, we elected a guy with that hair? Why don’t we investigate that? He looks like Al Jardine of the Beach Boys."





Donald Trump has a very strange theory about exercise
http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/15/politics/ ... -exercise/

President Donald Trump has a number of unorthodox theories about politics. But his theory of why exercise is bad for you is the strangest I've heard yet.
"Other than golf, he considers exercise misguided, arguing that a person, like a battery, is born with a finite amount of energy," writes Evan Osnos in a piece entitled "How Trump Could Get Fired" that appears in the May 8, edition of the New Yorker.
That's far from the first time we've heard that Trump and exercise aren't friends. This, from a February 6 piece in Axios: "The only workout Trump gets is an occasional round of golf. Even then, he mostly travels by cart. On the campaign trail he viewed his rallies as his form of exercise."
In their revelatory book "Trump Revealed," the Washington Post's Mike Kranisch and Marc Fisher wrote more extensively about Trump's "battery" theory of energy:

After college, after Trump mostly gave up his personal athletic interests, he came to view time spent playing sports as time wasted. Trump believed the human body was like a battery, with a finite amount of energy, which exercise only depleted. So he didn't work out. When he learned that John O'Donnell, one of his top casino executives, was training for an Ironman triathlon, he admonished him, "You are going to die young because of this."

And then there was this from a 2015 New York Times magazine profile of Trump:
Trump said he was not following any special diet or exercise regimen for the campaign. '''All my friends who work out all the time, they're going for knee replacements, hip replacements — they're a disaster,'' he said. He exerts himself fully by standing in front of an audience for an hour, as he just did. 'That's exercise.'"

[Rageman]

Nonetheless, never think this couldn't happen anywhere else today.

LOL

My grandfather was SS. I've read quite a bit about that era and the similarities with the Nazis during their rise to power and the Republican party since 2000 is terribly disturbing.

[Rageman]

http://gawker.com/5814150/roger-ailes-s ... r-fox-news
Great read from a 2011 article into how Ailes was part of a GOP media arm in the Nixon era that eventually led to the creation of Fox News.
This is from 1970

Today television news is watched more often than people read newspapers, than people listen to the radio, than people read or gather any other form of communication. The reason: People are lazy. With television you just sit—watch—listen. The thinking is done for you.

That's 25 years before he started Fox News

The idea as initially envisioned(Capitol News Service) doesn't appear to have gotten off the ground. But Ailes obviously did do "more work in this area," first with something called Television News Incorporated (TVN), a right-wing news service Ailes worked on in the early 1970s after he got fired by the White House. According to Rolling Stone, TVN was financed by conservative beermonger Joseph Coors, and its mandate sounds exactly like a privately funded version of Capitol News Service: "[TVN] was designed to inject a far-right slant into local news broadcasts by providing news clips that stations could use without credit—and at a fraction of the true costs of production." Ailes was "the godfather behind the scenes" of TVN, Rolling Stone reported, and it was where he first encountered the motto that would make his career: "Fair and balanced."

Though it died in 1975, TVN was obviously an early trial run for the powerhouse Fox News would become. The ideas were the same—to route Republican-friendly stories around the gatekeepers at the network news divisions. In Nixon's day, the only way to do that was to pump stories directly to local stations.

There are also occasional references to dirty political tricks, as well as some positions that seem at odds with the Tea Party politics of present-day Fox News: Ailes supported government regulation of political campaign ads on television, including strict limits on spending. He also advised Nixon to address high school students, a move that caused his network to shriek about "indoctrination" when Obama did it more than 30 years later.

[eddie lee roth]

Washington Post is reporting Trump revealed highly classified info to Russians.

[Judge Smails]

it's as if he's purposely trying to get himself impeached so he can resign and go back to the golf course business but the GOP "leadership" are too chickenshit to do anything about it

https://www.waashingtonpost.com/world/n ... ef5763&tid

By Greg Miller and Greg Jaffe May 15 at 5:01 PM

President Trump revealed highly classified information to the Russian foreign minister and ambassador in a White House meeting last week, according to current and former U.S. officials, who said Trump’s disclosures jeopardized a critical source of intelligence on the Islamic State.

The information the president relayed had been provided by a U.S. partner through an intelligence-sharing arrangement considered so sensitive that details have been withheld from allies and tightly restricted even within the U.S. government, officials said.

The partner had not given the United States permission to share the material with Russia, and officials said Trump’s decision to do so endangers cooperation from an ally that has access to the inner workings of the Islamic State. After Trump’s meeting, senior White House officials took steps to contain the damage, placing calls to the CIA and the National Security Agency.

“This is code-word information,” said a U.S. official familiar with the matter, using terminology that refers to one of the highest classification levels used by American spy agencies. Trump “revealed more information to the Russian ambassador than we have shared with our own allies.”

The revelation comes as the president faces rising legal and political pressure on multiple Russia-related fronts. Last week, he fired FBI Director James B. Comey in the midst of a bureau investigation into possible links between the Trump campaign and Moscow. Trump’s subsequent admission that his decision was driven by “this Russia thing” was seen by critics as attempted obstruction of justice.

One day after dismissing Comey, Trump welcomed Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Ambassador Sergey Kislyak — a key figure in earlier Russia controversies — into the Oval Office. It was during that meeting, officials said, that Trump went off script and began describing details of an Islamic State terrorist threat related to the use of laptop computers on aircraft.

For almost anyone in government, discussing such matters with an adversary would be illegal. As president, Trump has broad authority to declassify government secrets, making it unlikely that his disclosures broke the law.

“The president and the foreign minister reviewed common threats from terrorist organizations to include threats to aviation,” said H.R. McMaster, the national security adviser, who participated in the meeting. “At no time were any intelligence sources or methods discussed, and no military operations were disclosed that were not already known publicly.”

The CIA declined to comment, and the NSA did not respond to requests for comment.

But officials expressed concern about Trump’s handling of sensitive information as well as his grasp of the potential consequences. Exposure of an intelligence stream that has provided critical insight into the Islamic State, they said, could hinder the United States’ and its allies’ ability to detect future threats.

“It is all kind of shocking,” said a former senior U.S. official who is close to current administration officials. “Trump seems to be very reckless and doesn’t grasp the gravity of the things he’s dealing with, especially when it comes to intelligence and national security. And it’s all clouded because of this problem he has with Russia.”

Democrats expressed outrage, Trump issued defiant tweets. (Video: Bastien Inzaurralde, Jayne Orenstein, Alice Li, Libby Casey, Priya Mathew/Photo: Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post)

In his meeting with Lavrov, Trump seemed to be boasting about his inside knowledge of the looming threat. “I get great intel. I have people brief me on great intel every day,” the president said, according to an official with knowledge of the exchange.

Trump went on to discuss aspects of the threat that the United States learned only through the espionage capabilities of a key partner. He did not reveal the specific intelligence-gathering method, but he described how the Islamic State was pursuing elements of a specific plot and how much harm such an attack could cause under varying circumstances. Most alarmingly, officials said, Trump revealed the city in the Islamic State’s territory where the U.S. intelligence partner detected the threat.

The Washington Post is withholding most plot details, including the name of the city, at the urging of officials who warned that revealing them would jeopardize important intelligence capabilities.

“Everyone knows this stream is very sensitive, and the idea of sharing it at this level of granularity with the Russians is troubling,” said a former senior U.S. counterterrorism official who also worked closely with members of the Trump national security team. He and others spoke on the condition of anonymity, citing the sensitivity of the subject.

The identification of the location was seen as particularly problematic, officials said, because Russia could use that detail to help identify the U.S. ally or intelligence capability involved. Officials said the capability could be useful for other purposes, possibly providing intelligence on Russia’s presence in Syria. Moscow would be keenly interested in identifying that source and perhaps disrupting it.

Russia and the United States both regard the Islamic State as an enemy and share limited information about terrorist threats. But the two nations have competing agendas in Syria, where Moscow has deployed military assets and personnel to support President Bashar al-Assad.

“Russia could identify our sources or techniques,” the senior U.S. official said.

A former intelligence official who handled high-level intelligence on Russia said that given the clues
Trump provided, “I don’t think that it would be that hard [for Russian spy services] to figure this out.”

At a more fundamental level, the information wasn’t the United States’ to provide to others. Under the rules of espionage, governments — and even individual agencies — are given significant control over whether and how the information they gather is disseminated, even after it has been shared. Violating that practice undercuts trust considered essential to sharing secrets.

The officials declined to identify the ally but said it has previously voiced frustration with Washington’s inability to safeguard sensitive information related to Iraq and Syria.

“If that partner learned we’d given this to Russia without their knowledge or asking first, that is a blow to that relationship,” the U.S. official said.

Trump also described measures that the United States has taken or is contemplating to counter the threat, including military operations in Iraq and Syria, as well as other steps to tighten security, officials said.

The officials would not discuss details of those measures, but the Department of Homeland Security recently disclosed that it is considering banning laptops and other large electronic devices from carry-on bags on flights between Europe and the United States. The United States and Britain imposed a similar ban in March affecting travelers passing through airports in 10 Muslim-majority countries.

Trump cast the countermeasures in wistful terms. “Can you believe the world we live in today?” he said, according to one official. “Isn’t it crazy?”

Lavrov and Kislyak were also accompanied by aides.

A Russian photographer took photos of part of the session that were released by the Russian state-owned Tass news agency. No U.S. news organization was allowed to attend any part of the meeting.

Senior White House officials appeared to recognize quickly that Trump had overstepped and moved to contain the potential fallout.

Thomas P. Bossert, assistant to the president for homeland security and counterterrorism, placed calls to the directors of the CIA and the NSA, the services most directly involved in the intelligence-sharing arrangement with the partner.

One of Bossert’s subordinates also called for the problematic portion of Trump’s discussion to be stricken from internal memos and for the full transcript to be limited to a small circle of recipients, efforts to prevent sensitive details from being disseminated further or leaked.

Trump has repeatedly gone off-script in his dealings with high-ranking foreign officials, most notably in his contentious introductory conversation with the Australian prime minister earlier this year. He has also faced criticism for seemingly lax attention to security at his Florida retreat, Mar-a-Lago, where he appeared to field preliminary reports of a North Korea missile launch in full view of casual diners.

U.S. officials said that the National Security Council continues to prepare multi-page briefings for Trump to guide him through conversations with foreign leaders, but that he has insisted that the guidance be distilled to a single page of bullet points — and often ignores those.

“He seems to get in the room or on the phone and just goes with it, and that has big downsides,” the second former official said. “Does he understand what’s classified and what’s not? That’s what worries me.”

Lavrov’s reaction to the Trump disclosures was muted, officials said, calling for the United States to work more closely with Moscow on fighting terrorism.

Kislyak has figured prominently in damaging stories about the Trump administration’s ties to Russia. Trump’s first national security adviser, Michael Flynn, was forced to resign just 24 days into the job over his contacts with Kislyak and his misleading statements about them. Attorney General Jeff Sessions was forced to recuse himself from matters related to the FBI’s Russia investigation after it was revealed that he had met and spoke with Kislyak, despite denying any contact with Russian officials during his confirmation hearing.

“I’m sure Kislyak was able to fire off a good cable back to the Kremlin with all the details” he gleaned from Trump, said the former U.S. official who handled intelligence on Russia.

The White House readout of the meeting with Lavrov and Kislyak made no mention of the discussion of a terrorist threat.

“Trump emphasized the need to work together to end the conflict in Syria,” the summary said. The president also “raised Ukraine” and “emphasized his desire to build a better relationship between the United States and Russia.”

Julie Tate and Ellen Nakashima contributed to this report.

[Turner Coates]

Washington Post is reporting Trump revealed highly classified info to Russians.

I wonder how much money he's gonna make for selling us out.
Oh well, business is business, right?

[eddie lee roth]

Washington Post is reporting Trump revealed highly classified info to Russians.

I wonder how much money he's gonna make for selling us out.
Oh well, business is business, right?

I wonder if this will make some of his supporters turn away from being on the cheerleading squad.

[TenBenny]

Just read that Washington Post article. Republicans would be wise to end this now. If any of them honestly think there will be a viable party after this, they're batshit out of their mind. The damage is done, and a lot more names than just Trump are going to go down. It's just a matter of when now.

[Chip Z'Hoy]

And here we have TODAY'S scandal that would've gotten a Democrat in the deepest of shits.

[MurrayFiend]

And here we have TODAY'S scandal that would've gotten a Democrat in the deepest of shits.

Right?!

[Mojo]

And here we have TODAY'S scandal that would've gotten a Democrat in the deepest of shits.

Right?!

As a former Conservative who has been firmly shaken and awakened by this administration, I can only marvel at how weak these people are. Obama could have worn white past Labor Day and Republicans would have been calling for his head. The fact that they're not desperately trying to save face and save the party just does not compute.

[Turner Coates]

‘I need to take a shower,’ Kellyanne Conway said after defending candidate Trump, according to ‘Morning Joe’
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the ... c5acf31388

Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski dished some dirt Monday about counselor to the president Kellyanne Conway, claiming that she used to complain privately about representing a man she did not always believe in.

“This is a woman, by the way, who came on our show during the campaign and would shill for Trump in extensive fashion, and then she would get off the air, the camera would be turned off, the microphone would be taken off, and she would say, ‘Blech. I need to take a shower,’ ” Brzezinski said on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.” “Because she disliked her candidate so much.”

Scarborough chimed in to say that Conway “also said that this is just, like, my summer in Europe. This is like my vacay — I’m just doing it for the money. I’ll be off this soon. I don’t know that she ever said, ‘I’m doing this for the money,’ but she said, ‘This is just my summer vacation, my summer in Europe.’ And, basically, ‘I’m just gonna get through this.’ ”

[That-guy]

Ok, how long until he's gone? There's too much for him and his supporters in congress to continue covering up. It's got to come to some sort of conclusion soon, right?

[Judge Smails]

Ok, how long until he's gone? There's too much for him and his supporters in congress to continue covering up. It's got to come to some sort of conclusion soon, right?

go to Foxnews.com - their headline is about Hillary Clinton - then in much smaller print below is:

IT DIDN'T HAPPEN'
WH denies report Trump revealed classified info

Then in even smaller print

Newt Gingrich: Trump owes the news media nothing Comey fallout:

White House rejects special prosecutor calls

Judge Nap: Trump Russian intel leak 'most potentially catastrophic' yet

Gowdy takes himself out of running for FBI director post Trump 'tapes'? President likely in legal rights to record conversations


Many many people who support this crap only read Fox News and watch Fox News thus they literally may not know this is even going on

[Judge Smails]

the other GOP narrative to watch closely is the whole "Merrick Garland for FBI Chief" because he was nominated by Obama for the Supreme Court and thus the Dems would have to support him

however

Garland is the Chief Judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit. This is one of the most powerful Appeals courts in America. Removing him from this post would allow Trump and the GOP to place a puppet in this position to do their bidding

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the ... 90ce7dfce4

We live in a golden age of political stupidity, but I'm not being hyperbolic when I say this: The idea of pulling Judge Merrick Garland off the D.C. Circuit federal appeals court and into the FBI is one of the silliest ideas I've seen anyone in Washington fall for. It's like Wile E. Coyote putting down a nest made of dynamite and writing “NOT A TRAP” on a whiteboard next to it. It's also an incredibly telling chapter in the book that's been written since the Republican National Convention — the story of how Republicans who are uncomfortable with the Trump presidency gritting their teeth as they use it to lock in control of the courts.

On Thursday, as we reported at The Washington Post, Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) gave real oomph to an idea that had been bouncing around conservative media. Democrats had vetted and praised Garland when President Barack Obama nominated him for the Supreme Court — how, then, could they object to the idea of putting him in charge of the FBI?

The reasons to object were quickly explained by reporters and by liberal court analysts like Dahlia Lithwick. “Garland probably won’t want to give up his lifetime tenure as the chief judge of the second-most important court in the land,” Lithwick wrote, “and surely the most significant bulwark against Trump administration overreach, in exchange for a 12-minute gig on The Apprentice before he uses the wrong color highlighter and gets fired by a crazy person.” Among most court-watchers, the scheme was pretty obvious: Lee would give Republicans a chance to tweak a Garland-less court, changing a 7-to-4 liberal majority to a 6-to-5 majority. And in his tweet, Lee was explicit: If Garland went to the J. Edgar Hoover Building, Democrats wouldn't need a President Trump/Russia special prosecutor.

Yet what Lee apparently realized was that the churn of political conversation in Washington would get his idea looked at seriously. Lee floated the idea before the Senate's final votes of the week, meaning that senators of both parties would be available to reporters for hours. In that time, they were confronted with a shiny object — the Garland-for-FBI float — with little time to consider it. The conservative Washington Examiner went all-in on the story, getting Sen. Tom Udall (D-N.M.) to say that Garland “meets a lot of criteria” and Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.) to say he'd back him, but Garland probably wouldn't want the job. (The Examiner also quoted Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.) as saying “it would also create a vacancy in the important D.C. circuit, so maybe I like it better the more I think about it.” Well, yeah.)


Lee, who does not stop in the hallways to talk to reporters, must have realized that the senators who did would push the idea along. Democrats, after all, came to feel that Garland was a good man robbed of a job — their first instinct, when asked about him, was obviously to sing his praises. Their second thought might be to point out that this was a cartoonishly obvious ploy to give a conservative judge a lifetime appointment on a powerful court. But most people, hearing the idea, might not get to the second thought. Amusingly, a number of liberal opinion-havers glommed onto the Garland idea, apparently unaware that he was still on the court in D.C. From a former secretary of the treasury:

Twitter
Lawrence H. Summers ✔ @LHSummers
Merrick Garland as FBI director would avert what could be a long national nightmare. Trump should propose. Dems should insist.
7:24 AM - 12 May 2017
106 106 Retweets 238 238 likes

From a Democratic strategist who — literally one month earlier — was tweeting about how Garland could hold Trump accountable in the D.C. Circuit.

[Mojo]

Just heard McMaster's press briefing. Tooootally believe him. He was in the room.

Also totally comfortable with him taking no questions.

[Rageman]

This is being/was projected onto Trump hotel in DC tonight.

[TenBenny]

Ok, how long until he's gone? There's too much for him and his supporters in congress to continue covering up. It's got to come to some sort of conclusion soon, right?

go to Foxnews.com - their headline is about Hillary Clinton - then in much smaller print below is:

IT DIDN'T HAPPEN'
WH denies report Trump revealed classified info

Then in even smaller print

Newt Gingrich: Trump owes the news media nothing Comey fallout:

White House rejects special prosecutor calls

Judge Nap: Trump Russian intel leak 'most potentially catastrophic' yet

Gowdy takes himself out of running for FBI director post Trump 'tapes'? President likely in legal rights to record conversations


Many many people who support this crap only read Fox News and watch Fox News thus they literally may not know this is even going on

The politics and the news outlets have been running on parallel tracks for a long time now. At some point, we're all going to have to address the destruction entities like Fox News and Breitbart have caused in America in terms of how to excise it and perhaps create some more reasonable entities. I'm not against the conservatives of America having a media presence, but let it be one that's not stark raving mad or creating false narratives.

[TawnyVonJagger]

And here we have TODAY'S scandal that would've gotten a Democrat in the deepest of shits.

Had it been HRC, there would be a lynch mob complete with torches, rabid dogs, and a gallows on the WH lawn right fucking now.

[GoodJudge]

Just read that Washington Post article. Republicans would be wise to end this now. If any of them honestly think there will be a viable party after this, they're batshit out of their mind. The damage is done, and a lot more names than just Trump are going to go down. It's just a matter of when now.

Except:
- "Political correctness makes straight white men the most persecuted people in America"
- "Hilary wants to take our guns away"
- "Democrats let men pretend to be women so they can go into women's toilets"
- "Universal healthcare = socialism = communism"
etc. etc.

I don't see the Republicans losing too many voters. Or at least they'll go to non-voting for a while, but not to 'the other side'. More charitably, it's like the difference between a band and a sports team. If a band puts out a sucky album or two, people stop buying and their career dies. Sports fans are far more likely to support their team through the good times and the bad. Tribalism rather than lifestyle choice.

[TenBenny]

Just read that Washington Post article. Republicans would be wise to end this now. If any of them honestly think there will be a viable party after this, they're batshit out of their mind. The damage is done, and a lot more names than just Trump are going to go down. It's just a matter of when now.

Except:
- "Political correctness makes straight white men the most persecuted people in America"
- "Hilary wants to take our guns away"
- "Democrats let men pretend to be women so they can go into women's toilets"
- "Universal healthcare = socialism = communism"
etc. etc.

I don't see the Republicans losing too many voters. Or at least they'll go to non-voting for a while, but not to 'the other side'. More charitably, it's like the difference between a band and a sports team. If a band puts out a sucky album or two, people stop buying and their career dies. Sports fans are far more likely to support their team through the good times and the bad. Tribalism rather than lifestyle choice.

Oh, and lest we forget, "But the emails!" Funny how people were so concerned about Hillary's unsecured classified information and yet here we have the orange dipshit blatantly giving it away in the Oval Office.