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Immigration to Scandinavian countries has been a political football since as far back as I can remember.

You have these small safe stable countries that have massive social entitlements from the government. Why wouldn't you want to move there?

Bernie's utopian paradise of Denmark is all of 5 million people. You get an influx of 1 million refugees over the next 10 years Denmark isn't Denmark. I think Sweden is 9 million. It's about 20% the size of California. If I was living there I'd build a wall.
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Some Fox lies about Sweden are addressed by a Swedish newspaper here: http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/g26 ... n-fox-news

Regarding the "massive social entitlements", 2200 crowns buys you approximately ten kebabs and five beers a month. Compared to the average income, this is extreme poverty. Pretty much everything is exaggerated when it comes to Scandinavian representation in overseas media. Life isn't so different from anywhere else in EU. It's nowhere near the utopia (certainly not a socialist one) nor the refugee hellhole pundits want to make you believe.
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The Fox News documentary is "full of sweeping statements, exaggerations and – clear errors."

Which is why Fox News is Trump's network. Trump's predictable response:

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Chip Z'Hoy wrote:I guess the story is that he watched something on Fox News the night before about crime skyrocketing in Sweden because of immigration.

It's entirely possible that it came out "Look at what's happening last night in Sweden" because he's fucking braindead and doesn't know how to talk.
And the Fox news segment was based on bullshit as well.

http://www.dn.se/kultur-noje/nyheter/sw ... -a-madman/
Why were you interviewed?

”It was supposed to be about crime in high risk areas. Areas with high crime rates. There wasn’t any focus on migration or immigration”.

How did you react to the news segment?

”We don’t stand behind it. It shocked us. He has edited the answers. We were answering completely different questions in the interview. This is bad journalism.”

Anders Göranzon continues: ”It feels like hell. The real questions should be shown along with our answers. We don’t own the rights to the film, but the end result is that we don’t want to talk to journalists after this. We can’t trust each other.”
Sounds like the officers got the O'Keefe treatment.
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DEATH ROW JOE wrote:The Fox News documentary is "full of sweeping statements, exaggerations and – clear errors."

Which is why Fox News is Trump's network. Trump's predictable response:

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Luminiferous wrote:
DEATH ROW JOE wrote:The Fox News documentary is "full of sweeping statements, exaggerations and – clear errors."

Which is why Fox News is Trump's network. Trump's predictable response:

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Fox News and Waynes World. What could go wrong?

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SebastianLeeDanzig wrote:How do you like being blatantly lied to by the president? Think it's cool? No big deal his justifications of policy are evidently made-up?
The truth is, none of you even really believe half this garbage Joe posts daily. People like Joe & Turner are just political pawns for democratic talking points. It's no different than republican pawns that attacked every little thing they could on Obama.

Here's an illustration on how democratic talking points haven't changed in this excerpt:


The problem with the man currently leading the Republican party is that he is, as the Washington Post puts it, a hostage to the “fanatical policies of the extreme right.” His administration “insults women” and his unwelcome presence in public life “insults us all.” And, because the Republican party is all about the winning these days, the GOP establishment is “ready to forgive” . . . what? . . . “just about anything — as long as he wins.”

So says the Post, which is not alone in this estimate: Extreme on economic issues, extreme on the so-called social issues, he even has had an “extreme foreign-policy makeover,” according to The Atlantic. His views on immigration, MSNBC says, represent the Republican party “shrinking down to its most extreme elements.” One cable-news panelist insists he was the most extreme Republican presidential candidate ever. Paul Krugman laments that he has forsaken all serious policy thinking for “dangerous fantasy.” Nicholas Kristof of the New York Times is also alert to the “dangers” he presents, the “most dangerous of all” being his views on Iran, though Kristof also worries that he is too buddy-buddy with that awful, scheming Benjamin Netanyahu. Predictably, Chris Matthews and Rachel Maddow dogpiled him for his perplexing relationship with Moscow. Vice calls him a “sociopath” and Maureen Dowd dismissed him as “an out-of-touch plutocrat” who keeps “his true nature . . . buried where we can’t see it,” a devious figure who is so awful deep down inside that he “must hide an essential part of who he is” from the public.

President Mitt Romney sounds like he would have been a riot. Alas, his presidency never came to pass, thanks in no small part to the hysteria chronicled above. Every Republican president is “the most extreme ever,” or so Democrats and their media friends insist.


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Chip Z'Hoy wrote:It's entirely possible that it came out "Look at what's happening last night in Sweden" because he's fucking braindead and doesn't know how to talk.
When you talk daily about how braindead Trump is, you must be self aware enough to realize how silly you sound right?!? I don't want to pick your life apart, but seriously, only in some far off bizarro world are you a genius and Trump is a dunce.
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For those interested in an honest civil discussion about Trump (vs democratic propoganda) and where he's at, I found this interesting:

http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000594280

Cuban who is not a Trump fan vs Kevin who is optimistic.
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radiobed wrote: It's no different than republican pawns that attacked every little thing they could on Obama.
Yes it is, radiotard. It most certainly is.
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And some insight into why people are optimistic economically, GE legend Jack Welch on Trump meeting:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hYl1qphvE3E
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The truth is...
The truth is that you're an imbecile who was told to sit in the corner. Here's a little history lesson for you dumb ass:

A Peronist on the Potomac
Donald Trump through Latin American eyes
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A PRESIDENT is swept into office after whipping up a wave of grievance and resentment. He claims to represent “the people” against internal exploiters and external threats. He purports to “refound” the nation, and damns those who preceded him. He governs though confrontation and polarisation. His language is aggressive—opponents are branded as enemies or traitors. He uses the media to cement his connection with the masses, while bridling at critical journalism and at rebuffs to executive power. His policies focus on bringing short-term benefits to his political base—hang the long-term cost to the country’s economic stability.

Donald Trump? Yes, but these traits come straight from the manual of Latin American populist nationalism, a tradition that stretches from Argentina’s Juan Perón to Venezuela’s Hugo Chávez and beyond. Yes, Mr Trump is a billionaire capitalist whereas Chávez was an anti-capitalist army officer. But populism is not synonymous with the left: conservatives such as Peru’s Alberto Fujimori used its techniques, too. “Post-truth” politics and “alternative facts” have long been deployed in Latin America, from Mr Fujimori’s use of tabloid newspapers to smear opponents, to Chávez’s imaginary coups and Cristina Fernández de Kirchner’s fake inflation statistics in Argentina.

So when they contemplate Mr Trump’s first few weeks in the White House, many Latin American liberal democrats think they’ve seen this movie before. And they know it usually ends badly.


Read the rest here: http://www.economist.com/news/americas/ ... st-potomac
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radiobed wrote:And some insight into why people are optimistic economically, GE legend Jack Welch on Trump meeting:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hYl1qphvE3E
LMFAO, is Jack Welch still a labor department truther? Can't believe how ignorant you are about politics. Welch is a right wing hack with no credibility. He's looking forward to a tax cut and policies that will transfer wealth upwards to his pocket. You're a fool. Tweet from 2012 when the unemployment rate fell below 8% before the November election:

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Radiotard is just upset that Rev is hogging all the Kool aid.
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PRESIDENT DEADBEAT

USA TODAY exclusive: Hundreds allege Donald Trump doesn’t pay his bills
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli ... /85297274/

At least 60 lawsuits, along with hundreds of liens, judgments, and other government filings reviewed by the USA TODAY NETWORK, document people who have accused Trump and his businesses of failing to pay them for their work. Among them: a dishwasher in Florida. A glass company in New Jersey. A carpet company. A plumber. Painters. Forty-eight waiters. Dozens of bartenders and other hourly workers at his resorts and clubs, coast to coast. Real estate brokers who sold his properties. And, ironically, several law firms that once represented him in these suits and others.

Trump’s companies have also been cited for 24 violations of the Fair Labor Standards Act since 2005 for failing to pay overtime or minimum wage, according to U.S. Department of Labor data. That includes 21 citations against the defunct Trump Plaza in Atlantic City and three against the also out-of-business Trump Mortgage LLC in New York. Both cases were resolved by the companies agreeing to pay back wages.
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SebastianLeeDanzig wrote:How do you like being blatantly lied to by the president? Think it's cool? No big deal his justifications of policy are evidently made-up?
The truth is, none of you even really believe half this garbage Joe posts daily.
If you were able to refute DRJ, you would have already. He cites his sources and shows his work. You do neither and that is why you are not credible. Show us how he is wrong. He put the numbers out there, just do the work or GTFO. That's all it takes.
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The Trump-Russia Saga Takes a Strange New Turn
The president's personal lawyer, a Trump associate with Mafia ties, and a wealthy pro-Putin Ukrainian lawmaker reportedly joined together to concoct a secret peace plan to resolve the Russia-Ukraine crisis—and lift U.S. sanctions.

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/02/ ... ia-ukraine
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Turner Coates wrote:The Trump-Russia Saga Takes a Strange New Turn
The president's personal lawyer, a Trump associate with Mafia ties, and a wealthy pro-Putin Ukrainian lawmaker reportedly joined together to concoct a secret peace plan to resolve the Russia-Ukraine crisis—and lift U.S. sanctions.

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/02/ ... ia-ukraine
Isn't Cohen the one that posted the pic of a generic American passport to prove he wasn't somewhere in eastern Europe at a specific time?
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Danzig in the Dark wrote: If you were able to refute DRJ, you would have already. He cites his sources and shows his work.
In just the last week alone regarding Joe, I showed:

1. He didn't understand that raising the Fed Funds Rate makes it more expensive to borrow. He clearly stated it "attracts borrowers". Any basic economic text book is my source.

2. Everyone acknowledges the stock market has been optimistic based on the policies Trump is expected to implement. Less regs, tax reform, infrastructure spending, etc. Joe thinks it is jobs reports from 3 months ago and that it would be even higher with Hillary. His sources (himself), my sources (Kevin O 'Leary, Carl Icahn, Jack Welch, Wall St, Janet Yellen and even guys that hate Trump like Mark Cuban.

3. Joe failed to understand the basic statistics showing that the 9th circuit court has a reputation for a reason. He cited bogus statistics to make a pointless point.

4. Speaking of sources, one of Joe's sources on some phony hit on Trump was Robert Reich, a guy I clearly stated was making delusional conspiracy theories the week before about the Berkeley riots being alt right self sabotage. Here's a fucking link for you since apparently people can't look up what I stated:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/vol ... f47983fade




So to be clear, Joe is not only fucking stupid. His sources are clearly biased bullshit. He's just a democratic talking point minion sharing propoganda daily to...and here's the best fucking part, a small group of people who already fucking hate Trump!! Real fucking genius there.
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radiobed wrote:So to be clear, Joe is not only fucking stupid. His sources are clearly biased bullshit.
Learn English if you're going to call someone stupid.
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vlad wrote:
Turner Coates wrote:The Trump-Russia Saga Takes a Strange New Turn
The president's personal lawyer, a Trump associate with Mafia ties, and a wealthy pro-Putin Ukrainian lawmaker reportedly joined together to concoct a secret peace plan to resolve the Russia-Ukraine crisis—and lift U.S. sanctions.

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/02/ ... ia-ukraine
Isn't Cohen the one that posted the pic of a generic American passport to prove he wasn't somewhere in eastern Europe at a specific time?
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/why-m ... le/2611623#
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radiobed wrote:In just the last week alone regarding Joe, I showed:
1. He didn't understand that raising the Fed Funds Rate makes it more expensive to borrow. He clearly stated it "attracts borrowers". Any basic economic text book is my source.
Wrong and you are so desperate that you are hanging everything on a mistyped word. I clearly meant to type "lenders" rather than "borrowers" in this post since the Treasury is raising rates to sell bonds:

Quote: Expected increase in deficits will lower demand for govt bonds and drive up rates. The Treasury had to offer higher rates to attract borrowers

It's clear from the context that the Treasury is raising rates to attract lenders dumb ass. The Treasury is not lending money, they are borrowing money dumb ass. I also cited two studies showing that deficits increase rates.
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2. Everyone acknowledges the stock market has been optimistic based on the policies Trump is expected to implement. Less regs, tax reform, infrastructure spending, etc. Joe thinks it is jobs reports from 3 months ago and that it would be even higher with Hillary.
Dumb ass, that is nothing more than an opinion. Everyone does not share that opinion dumb ass. More agree that Trump's expected deficits have made it harder for the Treasury to borrow and have driven up rates. Given how Trump has performed, if his win drove up the market, the market would have corrected this past month due to his incompetence. Where are the tax cuts? He's sent nothing to Congress.
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3. Joe failed to understand the basic statistics showing that the 9th circuit court has a reputation for a reason. He cited bogus statistics to make a pointless point.
Wrong. The stats I posted were not "bogus" and they show that the "rogue" label is absurd. For fuck sake, you didn't even know the number of circuit courts. You said there were only 9 circuit courts. You were mindlessly parroting crap you hear in the right wing media.
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4. Speaking of sources, one of Joe's sources on some phony hit on Trump was Robert Reich, a guy I clearly stated was making delusional conspiracy theories the week before about the Berkeley riots being alt right self sabotage.
LMFAO, that is more ridiuclous than Trump's birther nonsense? It certainly does not mean that everything Reich says from now on is not credible.

You should have followed the advice and sat your dumb ass in the corner for some quiet time. You buried yourself again.
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radiobed wrote:
Danzig in the Dark wrote: If you were able to refute DRJ, you would have already. He cites his sources and shows his work.
In just the last week alone regarding Joe, I showed:

1. He didn't understand that raising the Fed Funds Rate makes it more expensive to borrow. He clearly stated it "attracts borrowers". Any basic economic text book is my source.
Cite one then. It should be easy.
radiosped wrote:2. Everyone acknowledges the stock market has been optimistic based on the policies Trump is expected to implement. Less regs, tax reform, infrastructure spending, etc. Joe thinks it is jobs reports from 3 months ago and that it would be even higher with Hillary. His sources (himself), my sources (Kevin O 'Leary, Carl Icahn, Jack Welch, Wall St, Janet Yellen and even guys that hate Trump like Mark Cuban.
You have as much difficulty with English as you do with numbers.
radiosped wrote:3. Joe failed to understand the basic statistics showing that the 9th circuit court has a reputation for a reason. He cited bogus statistics to make a pointless point.
Cite the real statistics. School us, radiosped. This is what I was talking about. Show me you're right and he is wrong or fuck off.
radiosped wrote:4. Speaking of sources, one of Joe's sources on some phony hit on Trump was Robert Reich, a guy I clearly stated was making delusional conspiracy theories the week before about the Berkeley riots being alt right self sabotage. Here's a fucking link for you since apparently people can't look up what I stated:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/vol ... f47983fade
Really? Trump, whom you trust, constantly vomits forth lies and conspiracies and Reich is not to be trusted for this? Get out of here. :roll: BTW, it isn't my job to carry water for you. Do your own fucking work.
radiosped wrote:So to be clear, Joe is not only fucking stupid. His sources are clearly biased bullshit. He's just a democratic talking point minion sharing propoganda daily to...and here's the best fucking part, a small group of people who already fucking hate Trump!! Real fucking genius there.
You are a Trump/GOP talking point minion mindlessly shitting propaganda like you are afflicted with verbal cholera. You've shown us nothing but your inability to properly debate and refute arguments.
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Radiobed keeps repeating how pointless DRJ's posts are. If that's the case, why wouldn't Radiobed's responses be equally as pointless?
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Joe, you know you're lying about the lender/borrower snafu, it wasn't the first time you seemed confused on that. Regardless, I have a more important challenge for you. You seem to believe you know what you're talking about and what's right for the country, why waste your time on only people that agree with you. Why not share your wisdom with all the "dummies" that voted in Orange Hitler?!?

I challenge you to spend all your political posting time at say Breitbart. The site is now bigger than PornHub. Help all those disillusioned Trumptards find their way!! Keep us updated on where you're posting. Let's see how you do in unfriendly waters. I predict those silly Trumptards will have you quickly back here with your tail between your legs.
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radiobed wrote:You seem to believe you know what you're talking about and what's right for the country, why waste your time on only people that agree with you. Why not share your wisdom with all the "dummies" that voted in Orange Hitler?!?
You seem to feel like he's not doing that right now, as he responds to you. Why?

And what is with you Trumpies constantly trying to make yourselves look like the victims or underdogs? You're given equal opportunity to defend yourself here and you're failing. You look like an idiot. So what do you do? Pretend like the cards are stacked against you and everything is unfair.
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