What %chance do you think Trump will get jail time?

[exitflagger]

The indictment is wild. They got him on tape acknowledging the documents are still classified. One of his lawyers testified under oath that he asked him to lie to the feds and say he doesn't have anything. Then, as a treat, it's got multiple occasions where he campaigned on this issue--"LOCK HER UP," etc.--so he can't say he wasn't aware of the severity of the crime.

He won't see a minute of jail time, and this will only help his campaign, and I don't think he actually gives a fuck about any of this, but I'm enjoying seeing the issue of top secret government info being mishandled go from a crime of treason punishable by death to not actually a big deal and it's okay to keep boxes of these documents in one of the cans at your golf resort.

It's not even goal-post moving at this point. The goal-post has been blown the fuck up.

True and if it pans out the way everybody figures it will (found guilty followed by a wrist-slap), the descendant relatives of anybody throughout the country's history who was ever severely punished for treason or espionage, should be given some kind of formal monetary reparations from the government.

[eddie lee roth]

At a speech last night he’s hinting at going out as a martyr if he’s found guilty. These were his exact words.

“If they throw me in jail I’ll Jeffrey Epstein my dumbass.”

[dmbrocker]

At a speech last night he’s hinting at going out as a martyr if he’s found guilty. These were his exact words.

“If they throw me in jail I’ll Jeffrey Epstein my dumbass.”

After which his supporters will go full conspiracy nut and claim he didn't kill himself.

[TooOldToCare]

At a speech last night he’s hinting at going out as a martyr if he’s found guilty. These were his exact words.

“If they throw me in jail I’ll Jeffrey Epstein my dumbass.”

I don't watch dumbass anymore. Life is better ignoring shit stains. But I'd support Jeffrey Epstein-ing himself, but we all know he's too weak and cowardly to do that.

[TravisBicklesMohawk]

Can't wait for the Magatard weeping and gnashing of teeth.

[cowpins]

For those saying no to jail time, what's your rationale? Or end game? Desantis wins and pardons him?

[Danzig in the Dark]

For those saying no to jail time, what's your rationale? Or end game? Desantis wins and pardons him?

He's old and rich. I don't think he'll skate, but there will be a suspended sentence or similar.

[whammybar]

I think the DOJ and state prosecutors are afraid of violence breaking out if they follow the law. Which means sentencing him. And what percentage of police and National Guard are brainwashed cultists?

[GoodJudge]

For those saying no to jail time, what's your rationale? Or end game? Desantis wins and pardons him?

If it's a jury trial the jurors will know that if they find him guilty they and their families will need to go into lifelong police protection (but will they ever feel safe, given that so many boys in blue are red of neck?). Same for the judge that delivers the sentence. If it's judge-only due to national security issues, even if they're not already a Republican appointee, are they prepared for the infamy of being the first judge in US history to jail an ex-president? It'll be career suicide just for starters.

If he's found guilty in court he'll get a fine, maybe a suspended sentence, that's all.

[TravisBicklesMohawk]

The Judge is a Trump appointee. What could go wrong??

[Mojo]

For those saying no to jail time, what's your rationale? Or end game? Desantis wins and pardons him?

For me, it's just straight-up pessimism. The right thing is rarely what actually happens, and especially not in this modern age where every facet of our society is set up for the rich to skate and the poor to get fucked. The man gets away with everything and every transgression only strengthens his cult. Why would this take him down?

[HueyRamone]

Also, what would that even look like? Would his security detail be in the next cell over?

[DiamondDog]

For those saying no to jail time, what's your rationale? Or end game? Desantis wins and pardons him?

He's old and rich. I don't think he'll skate, but there will be a suspended sentence or similar.

White. You forgot white. Old, rich, and white. The "won't go to jail" trifecta.

[ParaDime77]

Can't wait for the Magatard weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Nice to see a good biblical reference around here.

[cowpins]

Also, what would that even look like? Would his security detail be in the next cell over?

I would see an entire wing being built for him away from gen pop with secret service in modest accommodations close by, if something similar doesn't already exist.

[HueyRamone]

Also, what would that even look like? Would his security detail be in the next cell over?

I would see an entire wing being built for him away from gen pop with secret service in modest accommodations close by, if something similar doesn't already exist.

Yeah, and maybe the squatty potty unicorn flying by twice a day shitting out soft serve to Trump and the Secret Service agents, if some similar service to this doesn't already exist.

[Turner Coates]

I heard a great nickname for him today,"Lord Weemittens."

[Bono Nettencourt]

Whether he gets jailed or not is immaterial. A convict will not get elected President and the party apparatchiks and moneymen know it, but the MAGAtards won't quit their Dear Leader.

[TravisBicklesMohawk]

It is kinda funny watching the Magatard mob threatening violence and all kinds of stupid shit.

Guess they forgot about the first indictment.

[Mojo]

It is kinda funny watching the Magatard mob threatening violence and all kinds of stupid shit.

Guess they forgot about the first indictment.

They also forgot their foaming at the mouth outrage over Hillary's deleted top-secret yoga class emails. They forgot the hordes of cultists toooootally not politically motivated chants of "LOCK HER UP" over it. They also forgot all that shit about how you shouldn’t be able to run for President if you’re under investigation. Funny how that works.

[TooOldToCare]

I'm still incredulous that Trump had a position in his organization known as "Diet Coke Valet". I guess that dude has some charges on his shoulders too.

[Chip Z'Hoy]

I'm still incredulous that Trump had a position in his organization known as "Diet Coke Valet".

Because he's a working class man of the people.

[TooOldToCare]

I'm still incredulous that Trump had a position in his organization known as "Diet Coke Valet".

Because he's a working class man of the people.

Of course. I keep forgetting. Gotta run...my 747 is in the driveway waiting to take me to 7-11. Big Gulp time. Working class dog.

[Danzig in the Dark]

I'm still incredulous that Trump had a position in his organization known as "Diet Coke Valet".

Because he's a working class man of the people.

Of course. I keep forgetting. Gotta run...my 747 is in the driveway waiting to take me to 7-11. Big Gulp time. Working class dog.

Where the fuck is your Big Gulp valet?

[TooOldToCare]

Because he's a working class man of the people.

Of course. I keep forgetting. Gotta run...my 747 is in the driveway waiting to take me to 7-11. Big Gulp time. Working class dog.

Where the fuck is your Big Gulp valet?

Hiding my declassified porn collection.

[Bono Nettencourt]

It is kinda funny watching the Magatard mob threatening violence and all kinds of stupid shit.

Guess they forgot about the first indictment.

They also forgot their foaming at the mouth outrage over Hillary's deleted top-secret yoga class emails. They forgot the hordes of cultists toooootally not politically motivated chants of "LOCK HER UP" over it. They also forgot all that shit about how you shouldn’t be able to run for President if you’re under investigation. Funny how that works.

MSNBC just ran a montage of him speaking @ 2016 rallies over and over about Crooked Hillary's EMAILZ and the seriousness of mishandling classified information. Rules for thee, but not for me, that's the Republican way.

[TravisBicklesMohawk]

I'm still incredulous that Trump had a position in his organization known as "Diet Coke Valet".

Because he's a working class man of the people.

Of course. I keep forgetting. Gotta run...my 747 is in the driveway waiting to take me to 7-11. Big Gulp time. Working class dog.

Don't forget the Big Macs for Super Bowl winners.

[Mister Freeze]

For those saying no to jail time, what's your rationale? Or end game? Desantis wins and pardons him?

Trump is so petty, he'll run as a third-party candidate if Desantis gets the nomination.

Biden wins and Trump shoots himself in the foot. Bye-bye pardon.

[Gibsonite]

What's the Vegas line on that fat cunt Bud Dwyering himself on live tv once the shit gets truly real for his criminal organization? Asking for a friend..

[exitflagger]

What's the Vegas line on that fat cunt Bud Dwyering himself on live tv once the shit gets truly real for his criminal organization? Asking for a friend..

Unlikely. Narcissists don't kill the only person they really love.