The Mandela Effect, any believers? Skeptics?

[Charles Bukaki]

Anyone believe it's a real thing? Any theories or personal experiences? I find the idea pretty intriguing but I'm a skeptic and just can't buy into it. I've experienced enough situations over the years where my memory conflicts with someone else who experienced the exact thing at the same time that hard for me to believe there's some major change in something that can't be written off as faulty recall. Concerts are a good example. There's a certain amount of sameness with the live music experience that over time it can be hard to differentiate memories from one show to another, especially if it's a band you've seen or a venue you've been to multiple times.

[HoldenSSV]

I don't. Most of the examples they always list are just people being stupid, not paying attention, or having a faulty memory.

[Danzig in the Dark]

I don't. Most of the examples they always list are just people being stupid, not paying attention, or having a faulty memory.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/18/world/ma ... index.html

“The Mandela Effect is a really fascinating memory phenomenon where everyone seems to show incorrect memories for common popular icons,” said neuroscientist Wilma Bainbridge, an assistant professor in the University of Chicago’s department of psychology.

[HoldenSSV]

I don't. Most of the examples they always list are just people being stupid, not paying attention, or having a faulty memory.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/18/world/ma ... index.html

“The Mandela Effect is a really fascinating memory phenomenon where everyone seems to show incorrect memories for common popular icons,” said neuroscientist Wilma Bainbridge, an assistant professor in the University of Chicago’s department of psychology.

Even the name is retarded. When Mandela was finally released, it was world news for a week. Then he got divorced from Winnie, and that made news too.

If you ever thought Jif peanut butter was called Jiffy, you're a fucking moron. Period.

I blame Tommy Boy for the Empire Strikes Back quote.

[TooOldToCare]

It’s a stupid topic that has become another “conspiracy.” People remember shit differently all the time, but when it’s a BIG event or BIG news, then it becomes “paranormal.” Another example of how stupid humans are.

[VincentVanWinger]

No, I am Your Father.
https://youtu.be/mwtaM0GC-js?feature=shared

Luke, I am your father.
https://youtu.be/_nSvn54WCxY?feature=shared


Both exist.

[HoldenSSV]

No, I am Your Father.
https://youtu.be/mwtaM0GC-js?feature=shared

Luke, I am your father.
https://youtu.be/_nSvn54WCxY?feature=shared

Both exist.

The second one is altered, despite the title of the video.

[GreatWhiteSnake]

Nobody ever remembers anything perfectly...

[HueyRamone]

The "Luke, I am your Father" provides context, so it makes sense people would say it like that. "No, I am your father" wouldnt tie it to star wars for all but the most die hard. "Similar to "Beam me up, Scotty". Scotty provides context.

As far as people who swear Mandela died in the 80s, even though he was a world leader after that? Either they're morons or they are thinking of Steve Biko, probably cause of the Peter Gabriel song, which is more odd, as he says "Biko" all the time in the song. Actually, prolly cause Denzel portrayed him in a movie in the 80s, now that I think about it.

[500DaysofNight]

The Cable Guy is 100% responsible for "Hello Clarise" being a thing and here's my reasosing why. It was shown all the time on TBS, TNT and the like to the point I'm dead certain people have seen it way more than The Silence of the Lambs.

[eddie lee roth]

Before I go to bed each night I say out loud good night john boy.

[Bono Nettencourt]

Nobody ever remembers anything perfectly...

QED

[BritniTaiste]

The one that bothers me is the Moonraker/Dolly braces thing. I saw that in the drive in as a kid and many times after on HBO etc. The reason Jaws doesn’t hurt her is the braces give them a common ground and the scene doesn’t make as much sense without her having braces.

[kingrolfus]

It’s a stupid topic that has become another “conspiracy.” People remember shit differently all the time, but when it’s a BIG event or BIG news, then it becomes “paranormal.” Another example of how stupid humans are.

Never seen anyone claim it's paranormal.

[Rocker4Real]

It happens. Memories get jumbled over time. I remember certain events being in one childhood home. Then I look up the date and realize it wasn't possible because that wasn't where we lived at the time.

[TooOldToCare]

It’s a stupid topic that has become another “conspiracy.” People remember shit differently all the time, but when it’s a BIG event or BIG news, then it becomes “paranormal.” Another example of how stupid humans are.

Never seen anyone claim it's paranormal.

The term *Mandela Effect* was created by a paranormal researcher. Paranormal simply means "not explainable by scientific understanding," though most think it's synonymous with ghosts and goblins.

[Don't Damn Me]

The one that bothers me is the Moonraker/Dolly braces thing. I saw that in the drive in as a kid and many times after on HBO etc. The reason Jaws doesn’t hurt her is the braces give them a common ground and the scene doesn’t make as much sense without her having braces.

This one strikes me as a true phenomenon. Just recently I was talking about it and I explained the Moonraker scenario. Jaws crashlands to the ground and a cute young girl approaches him. He shows his silver teeth, then she smiles revealing braces. It's a cute unexpected moment, getting the biggest laugh of the movie when it was in theaters.
And sure enough the person I was talking to said "you mean she DIDN'T have braces?!

I haven't even heard of the Mandela effect when I got the Moonraker dvd. That's one of the most memorable moments of the film and when it didn't happen it sent me exploring different versions of the film and deleted scenes Etc.
That's when I discovered that allegedly this its a massive shared delusion.
My only explanation would be that the way that scene plays out the human psyche expects the girl to have braces because it's the obvious laugh.
Who knows but this one is real enough

[TooOldToCare]

The one that bothers me is the Moonraker/Dolly braces thing. I saw that in the drive in as a kid and many times after on HBO etc. The reason Jaws doesn’t hurt her is the braces give them a common ground and the scene doesn’t make as much sense without her having braces.

This one strikes me as a true phenomenon. Just recently I was talking about it and I explained the Moonraker scenario. Jaws crashlands to the ground and a cute young girl approaches him. He shows his silver teeth, then she smiles revealing braces. It's a cute unexpected moment, getting the biggest laugh of the movie when it was in theaters.
And sure enough the person I was talking to said "you mean she DIDN'T have braces?!

I haven't even heard of the Mandela effect when I got the Moonraker dvd. That's one of the most memorable moments of the film and when it didn't happen it sent me exploring different versions of the film and deleted scenes Etc.
That's when I discovered that allegedly this its a massive shared delusion.
My only explanation would be that the way that scene plays out the human psyche expects the girl to have braces because it's the obvious laugh.
Who knows but this one is real enough

I haven't seen the movie in a couple of decades, and I would have said she had braces. I still play the scene in my mind, and they're there. Kind of strange-cool how the brain works.

[HueyRamone]

The more I think about the namesake, the more I'm convinced that people kind of know that Denzel played a South African dissident who got killed, but didnt see the movie, so they're pretty sure it's Mandela. And Morgan Freeman was the school teacher with the baseball bat.

And that's pretty much the only reason.