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E-Bikes

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:30 pm
by Blumpkin King
I am getting over a pretty serious injury. I tore my hamstring from the bone. After reattachment and reconstruction surgery I am looking to finally get back outside and away from my bedroom. My doctor suggested an e-bike as I can use the pedal assist to work the hamstring and if I get tired or too far from home I can use throttle only. Does anyone here drive one and how do you like it? How much? I am looking for the 1K to 1.2K range. Looking at folding bikes, but can probably be convinced otherwise.
Thanks,

Re: E-Bikes

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 8:22 am
by EzyRider
Don't get a folding bike, those things are dangerous (and dorky)

If you can save up a little more to get something decent, you'll prob wind up riding it more

I'm looking at getting a long travel mountain eBike, but it won't be cheap, a decent one starts around 3K (but it will be a lot of fun!!)

Also please refrain from doing wheelies for blocks and blocks including through intersections like the kids around here do :)

Re: E-Bikes

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 6:48 pm
by Kings1967
I have a dangerous, (and dorky) folding ebike. It's a blast. I'll ride to Newport or Huntington beach using the Santa Ana riverbed trail, or sometimes up to the Corona area on same trail. The manufacturer claims a top speed of 28mph, but it tops out at 25mph on my GPS app which is fast enough. Mine is similar to the ebike below. It came with a T-stem handlebar setup that I swapped out with BMX handlebars. I've had it since September 2023 and have gone just over 600 miles in total so far. Your mileage per ride will vary depending how fast you go. I keep it to around 16mph with pedal assist, and get a bit over 40 miles per ride. Get one with hydraulic brakes. Good brakes are worth every penny. Mine retailed for $1500. I used some Amazon points I had accumulated and got it for about $1250 after tax.
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Re: E-Bikes

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 6:59 pm
by HueyRamone
This is brand new, $1299 is supposedly a great price for what you get.
Im gonna get a non e-bike, but this one intrigued me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAKEcRbdwHw

Re: E-Bikes

Posted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 8:13 am
by EzyRider
Kings1967 wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 6:48 pm I have a dangerous, (and dorky) folding ebike. It's a blast. I'll ride to Newport or Huntington beach using the Santa Ana riverbed trail, or sometimes up to the Corona area on same trail. The manufacturer claims a top speed of 28mph, but it tops out at 25mph on my GPS app which is fast enough. Mine is similar to the ebike below. It came with a T-stem handlebar setup that I swapped out with BMX handlebars. I've had it since September 2023 and have gone just over 600 miles in total so far. Your mileage per ride will vary depending how fast you go. I keep it to around 16mph with pedal assist, and get a bit over 40 miles per ride. Get one with hydraulic brakes. Good brakes are worth every penny. Mine retailed for $1500. I used some Amazon points I had accumulated and got it for about $1250 after tax.
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This thing scares me :D

Agree on the brakes, don't skimp on that!

Re: E-Bikes

Posted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:34 am
by HueyRamone
EzyRider wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 8:22 am
I'm looking at getting a long travel mountain eBike, but it won't be cheap, a decent one starts around 3K (but it will be a lot of fun!!)
Can I see the link of that one?

As i stated earlier, I'm looking at a non "E" mountain bike for now, but may want to electrify in the future.

Any tips on mountain (non-E) bikes under, say $750?

Re: E-Bikes

Posted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 8:58 pm
by EzyRider
HueyRamone wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:34 am
EzyRider wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 8:22 am
I'm looking at getting a long travel mountain eBike, but it won't be cheap, a decent one starts around 3K (but it will be a lot of fun!!)
Can I see the link of that one?

As i stated earlier, I'm looking at a non "E" mountain bike for now, but may want to electrify in the future.

Any tips on mountain (non-E) bikes under, say $750?
A good MTB under $1000 is likely impossible unless you get a used one, but that can be a good way to go. Look for someone that bought a bike recently (let's say within the last two years) but hasn't really used it and looking to dump it. Look for 29" wheels, or at least 27.5. Bikes with 26" wheels are almost obsolete now and you will have a hard time getting parts. Look for name components in the build like SRAM or Shimano shifters/gears and Fox Fork, etc. Should have hydraulic disc brakes. A hard tail (no rear shock) will be cheaper. I'm huge on tubeless wheels/tires, but that's an extra level of maintenance you may not want.

Check list on the bike they're selling, it should priced half of that or less. Don't go for something that they are not taking a bath on.

Just as important (this is key) find a bike shop near you that you really like because you'll be going there until you get things dialed in and able to do minor things yourself. Who knows, maybe they will have some demo bikes to sell or have something that fits your budget.

Specialized was having a blow out on eBikes, but I think it's over. Some of my friends got them at like $3K from the shop as a special deal but that's crazy cheap.

For eBike I'm looking at a Yeti e160. It's overkill for most people though. I have a Yeti SB100 MTB that I ride all the time right now, I built it up to be fairly light, 25 pounds. Can't say enough good things about that bike, it's downright sexy!

https://enduro-mtb.com/en/yeti-160e-t1-2023-review/

Re: E-Bikes

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 7:59 am
by HueyRamone
EzyRider wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 8:58 pm A good MTB under $1000 is likely impossible unless you get a used one,
What would be wrong with starting out on something like a Giant Talon 4 that's $500? I'm not going to be ripping rock trails and getting sick air. (That sounds fun, but no interest in adding a seperated shoulder to things I want to deal with). Just wanna pedal up hills and ride down smoothish trails.

Re: E-Bikes

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:17 am
by EzyRider
ding-ding-ding - we have a winner!

Giant is a great choice. I've heard they make bike frames for a lot of other companies, so that's why you can get a Giant branded bike for cheaper, it's like getting a store brand.

This checks a lot of marks, made within the last couple years, 29 or 27.5 wheels, disc brakes, dirt cheap, brand new. Get a 29" if you can. Spend the other $250 on a rad kit so you don't look like a folding bike dork :D

That is crazy cheap, must be blowing them out. If you get it online you will have to assemble it yourself, shouldn't be too hard but you will need a few tools like metric allen wrenches (4,5,6 mm at a minimum) and maybe a T25 torx bit. Also FYI the left pedal is always reverse threaded, and tighten pedals just a little past finger tight in case you want to take them off again.

Comparison chart of Talon 1,2,4 > https://www.giant-bicycles.com/us/bikes-talon-2022

Re: E-Bikes

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:47 am
by HueyRamone
EzyRider wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:17 am ding-ding-ding - we have a winner!

Giant is a great choice. I've heard they make bike frames for a lot of other companies, so that's why you can get a Giant branded bike for cheaper, it's like getting a store brand.

This checks a lot of marks, made within the last couple years, 29 or 27.5 wheels, disc brakes, dirt cheap, brand new. Get a 29" if you can. Spend the other $250 on a rad kit so you don't look like a folding bike dork :D

That is crazy cheap, must be blowing them out. If you get it online you will have to assemble it yourself, shouldn't be too hard but you will need a few tools like metric allen wrenches (4,5,6 mm at a minimum) and maybe a T25 torx bit. Also FYI the left pedal is always reverse threaded, and tighten pedals just a little past finger tight in case you want to take them off again.

Comparison chart of Talon 1,2,4 > https://www.giant-bicycles.com/us/bikes-talon-2022
Thx, man.

The only fault I can see on the Talon 4 is the non-hydraulic brakes. Thoughts?

Im 6'3", so need an XL with 29 inch wheels for sure.

Re: E-Bikes

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:02 am
by eddie lee roth
Blumpkin King wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:30 pm I am getting over a pretty serious injury. I tore my hamstring from the bone. After reattachment and reconstruction surgery I am looking to finally get back outside and away from my bedroom. My doctor suggested an e-bike as I can use the pedal assist to work the hamstring and if I get tired or too far from home I can use throttle only. Does anyone here drive one and how do you like it? How much? I am looking for the 1K to 1.2K range. Looking at folding bikes, but can probably be convinced otherwise.
Thanks,
Hope you get to feeling better and enjoy the outdoors.

I’m curious about these ebikes too. What’s a good one for just cruising around the neighborhood and shit like that?

Not interested in mountain biking at all.

Re: E-Bikes

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 6:47 pm
by Blumpkin King
eddie lee roth wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:02 am
Blumpkin King wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:30 pm I am getting over a pretty serious injury. I tore my hamstring from the bone. After reattachment and reconstruction surgery I am looking to finally get back outside and away from my bedroom. My doctor suggested an e-bike as I can use the pedal assist to work the hamstring and if I get tired or too far from home I can use throttle only. Does anyone here drive one and how do you like it? How much? I am looking for the 1K to 1.2K range. Looking at folding bikes, but can probably be convinced otherwise.
Thanks,
Hope you get to feeling better and enjoy the outdoors.

I’m curious about these ebikes too. What’s a good one for just cruising around the neighborhood and shit like that?

Not interested in mountain biking at all.
Thanks. Everyday is a little better. I am looking for something to really cruise around the area on and take some paved trails, but not dirt trails. I have no desire right now to get on a dirt. If I do later, I will look into a bike that can handle off road biking. I don't mind looking dorky. I am considering a foldable so in the near future I can fit the bike and drive to newer trails. I am looking for a "step through" so I can get on easier due to my injury. There are 3 that I am currently looking at:

Lectric - https://lectricebikes.com/collections/a ... thru-white

Jasion - https://www.jasionbike.com/products/jasion-x-hunter

Ride1Up - https://ride1up.com/product/portola/

Any thoughts other than I will look dorky.

Re: E-Bikes

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:41 pm
by Kings1967
Blumpkin King wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 6:47 pm
Lectric - https://lectricebikes.com/collections/a ... thru-white

Jasion - https://www.jasionbike.com/products/jasion-x-hunter

Ride1Up - https://ride1up.com/product/portola/

Any thoughts other than I will look dorky.
Those are solid bikes. Most of these folding bikes are all the same with some differences in styling. You want to look for wattage/peak wattage in motor, is it full suspension and what kind (air, hydraulic, mechanical), does it have hydraulic or mechanical brakes, and battery Voltage/Amp Hours (get one with UL stamp of approval). The amp hours are like the gas tank size. The bigger the amp hour number, the farther you should be able to ride. I would never treat it like a MTB, but they aren't really dangerous as long as you're just cruising. You will never not look like a dork on one of these though. There's a ton of accessories and upgrades you can buy for them. I've upgraded my seat, handlebars, rear suspension shock, and bought a pannier bag for it already. I've got 600 miles on its odo so far, and have to buy tires soon. The factory ones are already losing tread, and the rear tire will be bald by 1,000. Buy some Slime or Flat Out too for the inevitable flats you will get. Here's two more brands with folding, step-through frames:

https://www.vitilanebike.com/products/u ... 0524940466

https://www.heybike.com/collections/ele ... /step-thru

I have a Vitilan i7 similar to the pic I posted above in a previous post. It's not a step through, but feels like a tank and well put together. A friend of mine has a HeyBike Tyson and it has a longer wheelbase which makes you lean forward a little more. It feels closer to riding a motorcycle than mine. Mine forces me to ride in a more up-right posture.

Re: E-Bikes

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:17 pm
by EzyRider
HueyRamone wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:47 am The only fault I can see on the Talon 4 is the non-hydraulic brakes. Thoughts?
Im 6'3", so need an XL with 29 inch wheels for sure.

I rode with mechanical brakes for years, you'll be good, just make sure replacement pads are available somewhere. This thing is $500, even with mechanical brakes it seems close to cost.

Looking closer I see they ship it to a nearby Giant store and put it together for you. I'd look up your local Giant store and go in there so you can figure out the size (looks like XL), they should have some advice and hopefully some built up that you can spin in the parking lot before you order one.

Re: E-Bikes

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 7:41 am
by HueyRamone
EzyRider wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:17 pm
HueyRamone wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:47 am The only fault I can see on the Talon 4 is the non-hydraulic brakes. Thoughts?
Im 6'3", so need an XL with 29 inch wheels for sure.

I rode with mechanical brakes for years, you'll be good, just make sure replacement pads are available somewhere. This thing is $500, even with mechanical brakes it seems close to cost.

Looking closer I see they ship it to a nearby Giant store and put it together for you. I'd look up your local Giant store and go in there so you can figure out the size (looks like XL), they should have some advice and hopefully some built up that you can spin in the parking lot before you order one.
I’ve already done just that, that’s how I found out about Giant. However the price at the store is $600. I. Tempted to ask if there’s a discount, but will prolly just pull the trigger, no sense in grinding the store over a bit extra when you seem to have to have a good relationship with your shop.

Re: E-Bikes

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 8:46 am
by EzyRider
HueyRamone wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 7:41 am
EzyRider wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:17 pm Looking closer I see they ship it to a nearby Giant store and put it together for you. I'd look up your local Giant store and go in there so you can figure out the size (looks like XL), they should have some advice and hopefully some built up that you can spin in the parking lot before you order one.
I’ve already done just that, that’s how I found out about Giant. However the price at the store is $600. I. Tempted to ask if there’s a discount, but will prolly just pull the trigger, no sense in grinding the store over a bit extra when you seem to have to have a good relationship with your shop.
Perfect. I dunno about doing full price, bike shops always wheel and deal and $500 is 16.666% off, that's a good discount.

I'd mention you noticed Giant has an online sale and ask if they can match it (of course they can) and you'll use the extra $100 to buy stuff from the store, like gloves, helmet, spare tubes, air pump, whatever it is you need. Or keep the money and bring by a six pack of IPA when they put your bike together, bike guys typically love beer.

Re: E-Bikes

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 8:53 am
by HueyRamone
EzyRider wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 8:46 am
HueyRamone wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 7:41 am
EzyRider wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:17 pm Looking closer I see they ship it to a nearby Giant store and put it together for you. I'd look up your local Giant store and go in there so you can figure out the size (looks like XL), they should have some advice and hopefully some built up that you can spin in the parking lot before you order one.
I’ve already done just that, that’s how I found out about Giant. However the price at the store is $600. I. Tempted to ask if there’s a discount, but will prolly just pull the trigger, no sense in grinding the store over a bit extra when you seem to have to have a good relationship with your shop.
Perfect. I dunno about doing full price, bike shops always wheel and deal and $500 is 16.666% off, that's a good discount.

I'd mention you noticed Giant has an online sale and ask if they can match it (of course they can) and you'll use the extra $100 to buy stuff from the store, like gloves, helmet, spare tubes, air pump, whatever it is you need. Or keep the money and bring by a six pack of IPA when they put your bike together, bike guys typically love beer.
Thank you sir. You've been more helpful than reddit MTB forum. Sludge always delivers!

Re: E-Bikes

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:30 am
by GreatWhiteSnake
HueyRamone wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 8:53 am
EzyRider wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 8:46 am
HueyRamone wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 7:41 am
I’ve already done just that, that’s how I found out about Giant. However the price at the store is $600. I. Tempted to ask if there’s a discount, but will prolly just pull the trigger, no sense in grinding the store over a bit extra when you seem to have to have a good relationship with your shop.
Perfect. I dunno about doing full price, bike shops always wheel and deal and $500 is 16.666% off, that's a good discount.

I'd mention you noticed Giant has an online sale and ask if they can match it (of course they can) and you'll use the extra $100 to buy stuff from the store, like gloves, helmet, spare tubes, air pump, whatever it is you need. Or keep the money and bring by a six pack of IPA when they put your bike together, bike guys typically love beer.
Thank you sir. You've been more helpful than reddit MTB forum. Sludge always delivers!
Living up to his name...

Re: E-Bikes

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:47 am
by EzyRider
I noticed they have full stock of these things in every size, color and wheel combination, and they're all from 2022. So they want to get rid of these things I'm thinking, they're taking up room in a warehouse somewhere. It's possible they built up a zillion of these things post-covid, and everyone bought higher end models or e-bikes instead. Seems like a steal, good find.

I do want to add I've done several triathlons so I have a lot of experience looking dorky. It's impossible to hang out in a full on tri spandex outfit with weird glasses and a goofy helmet and not look like a complete dork. I will however never own a folding bike. :D

Re: E-Bikes

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 11:38 am
by Nate S Axel
No need or desire to own any sort of e-bike, but when I was in Utah last year we were near the headquarters for Amped Bikes and got to check them out and even try them out on the track in their yard. Pretty cool to be honest. I'd probably get an all-terrain bike instead of a dirt bike living in Vegas. A couple people in my building have similar bikes (not sure of the brand), and unlike a traditional motorcycle you can't hear them at all... even though that's part of the fun owning a Harley, to rev your engine, wake everybody up early, and ruin their day.

https://ampedbikes.com/

Re: E-Bikes

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 12:18 pm
by TooOldToCare
My dad had one a couple of years before he passed in 2022. My mom, who is 84, continues to hold on to his things, which is fine. I'd eventually like to get it. It's a Rad Power Bike, so it's a good brand.

Re: E-Bikes

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 1:32 pm
by EzyRider
you wanted the DORKY, you got the DORKY!!

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https://www.bikeradar.com/news/giro-aerohead-ii

Re: E-Bikes

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:05 pm
by HueyRamone
Pulled the trigger on the Giant Talon 4. Gonna hit the fire road off Mulholland tomorrow!

Edit: It was fun. Did 10 miles. Only ate it once.

Re: E-Bikes

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 8:55 pm
by EzyRider
Nice!! Is the bike decent??

I rode from Will Rogers park at least once or twice, remember it being really good.

To avoid eating shit be sure to read the terrain, you gotta unweight to get over obstacles, don't just run into sh*t.

A more advanced move is to push into the dips, it's kinda the same concept

Re: E-Bikes

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 9:25 pm
by HueyRamone
EzyRider wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 8:55 pm Nice!! Is the bike decent??

I rode from Will Rogers park at least once or twice, remember it being really good.

To avoid eating shit be sure to read the terrain, you gotta unweight to get over obstacles, don't just run into sh*t.

A more advanced move is to push into the dips, it's kinda the same concept
I think it is decent! Of course i have nothing to compare it to, but it feels solid, and not chintzy in any way.
I will say that it has 8 gears, but feels like it needs 1 or 2 more when i ride on flat asphalt. Like i wouldnt mind hauling ass more on there. Once I get on dirt it isnt noticible tho.

As far as falling, I had crossed the divot once before, not sure what I did the second time, but I will look into learning how to feel them out. I pulled up, but maybe i mistimed it. Or I shoulda leaned back instead of pulling up.

Thx for your help, made my decision easier!

Re: E-Bikes

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 11:22 pm
by tym
I am getting ready to pull the trigger and buy my first Ebike. So many different brands, styles. I had an idea of what i wanted. It had to be American Made, and Great customer service that is not from india. E-CELLS FIVE STAR E-BIKE is the one I decided to buy. It hit all the points I wanted in a bike.

I think there upgrades are crazy expensive especially when you can get a better item at a way better price from amazon. I just liked the bike had a max speed of 40mph, and seems to do great at climbing hills. See how it works out. In time, my thing is going on major trips. I have a town that like 10 mile from me thats bigger, wanna go there first. Then increase the distance.

See how it works out for me. I know I am gonna get theft insurance on it, if its not crazy expensive. Then a good lock, I like the folding kind, Foldy Lock Forever is what I am gonna go with, along with a bike alarm.

Re: E-Bikes

Posted: Sun May 05, 2024 4:53 pm
by HueyRamone
EzyRider wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 8:55 pm Nice!! Is the bike decent??
Already doing blue trail runs. And climbing like a beast. So what upgrades should I put on this bike? I'm thinking dropper post and hydraulic brakes. Should I go lower end on both, as when it's time to spend money, i should just get a new bike? Is the Talon 4 frame enought to keep and just put upgrades on? Is there something good I havent thought of?