Obama-Haiti-job rating

[adam]

How good of a job is he doing with the mess in Haiti?

I give him an D

1. He is spending tons of money - America is bankrupt, we don't have the money. He needs to put a cap on how much money we will spend. We can't afford to rebuild Haiti. Sound heartless but its the truth.
2. Medicine and supplies are not getting to the Doctors.
3. Food and water is not getting out to the people who need it.
4. He is not demanding more help from other countries.


Just my onion.

[HollywoodBomb]

He felt rejected as a child and now he's gonna take it out on the population. The spending on Haiti is ok but other than that he's screwing the economy big time. Millions of jobs were lost in the U.S when he scared rich people with his new tax. He was supposed to spread the wealth around, instead he created more poverty.

[tylamonroe]

Barack Obama doesn't care about really black people.

Not unless they can work with ACORN to help him rig elections.

[pooldude]

Maybe you right wingers would be more impressed with Mr Obama if he were to take a page from the Newt Gingrich handbook...

...& cut our losses & divorce ourselves from those hopeless mofo's in Haiti, while they're layin' there half dead.

You know...put some real Compassionate Conservativism into action!

[tylamonroe]

Maybe you right wingers would be more impressed with Mr Obama if he were to take a page from the Newt Gingrich handbook...

...& cut our losses & divorce ourselves from those hopeless mofo's in Haiti, while they're layin' there half dead.

You know...put some real Compassionate Conservativism into action!

If he treated the Haitians like he is treating our economy and personal liberty he could fly over on AF1 with his whore wife, piss on their heads, and tell them a clean rain has come to wash away the sins of Bush.

Actually, I can't fault anyone for their work over there. Everyone is doing a remarkable job given the hellish circumstances and I feel very comfortable that my money is being well spent. I just can't ever miss an oportunity to slam on the socialist fuck. I'd expect you libs to understand that better than anyone.

[VinnieKulick]

First, America doesn't HAVE to contribute to ANYTHING outside of our borders.

Obama has done a GREAT service by sending money, food, aid, medial supplies, the Navy Hospital Ship Comfort (I was on her during the gulf war). He's asked two respected former Presidents to help out (like him or not, Bush does still have SOME international respect). Michelle Obama makes a PSA.

Everything he's doing is the right thing to do.

[tin00can]

Maybe you right wingers would be more impressed with Mr Obama if he were to take a page from the Newt Gingrich handbook...

...& cut our losses & divorce ourselves from those hopeless mofo's in Haiti, while they're layin' there half dead.

You know...put some real Compassionate Conservativism into action!

If he treated the Haitians like he is treating our economy and personal liberty he could fly over on AF1 with his whore wife, piss on their heads, and tell them a clean rain has come to wash away the sins of Bush.

Actually, I can't fault anyone for their work over there. Everyone is doing a remarkable job given the hellish circumstances and I feel very comfortable that my money is being well spent. I just can't ever miss an oportunity to slam on the socialist fuck. I'd expect you libs to understand that better than anyone.

Wow, his wife is a whore? Really?

[pooldude]

If he treated the Haitians like he is treating our economy and personal liberty he could fly over on AF1 with his whore wife, piss on their heads, and tell them a clean rain has come to wash away the sins of Bush.....I just can't ever miss an oportunity to slam on the socialist fuck.

^^^ Spoken like a true bigot.

That's not political debate between respectful Americans over political / philosophical differences...it's blatant racist demonizing straight out of Mein Kampf.

That's the same kind of thinly veiled hard right hatred I remember from the days of JFK, MLK, & RFK.

I waited all afternoon to see if anyone else would speak out against this BS.

Kudos to tin00can.

[thejuggernaut]

Maybe you right wingers would be more impressed with Mr Obama if he were to take a page from the Newt Gingrich handbook...

...& cut our losses & divorce ourselves from those hopeless mofo's in Haiti, while they're layin' there half dead.

You know...put some real Compassionate Conservativism into action!

If he treated the Haitians like he is treating our economy and personal liberty he could fly over on AF1 with his whore wife, piss on their heads, and tell them a clean rain has come to wash away the sins of Bush.

Actually, I can't fault anyone for their work over there. Everyone is doing a remarkable job given the hellish circumstances and I feel very comfortable that my money is being well spent. I just can't ever miss an oportunity to slam on the socialist fuck. I'd expect you libs to understand that better than anyone.

Wow, his wife is a whore? Really?

Yes, she is.

They all are.

He said "whore", not "slut".

[tin00can]

OK juggs, that got a LOL outta me. Well played.

[pooldude]

In case any of you think I'm over-reacting to vitriolic slander against the current President & his wife...

...this is an example of right wing political hate propaganda that was distributed by the 1000s in Dallas Texas the very day JFK was shot:

http://brane-space.blogspot.com/2009/09 ... llies.html

Back in the '60s, JFK was hated by the far right just as much as they hate Mr Obama today. JFK was also called a communist & socialist & anti Christian & a subversive out to destroy America, the same way Mr Obama is now, by some of the more bitter partisans.

We're never all going to agree with a duly elected President, or any 1 political direction, but this extreme type of hateful dialog is wrong.

[tin00can]

In case any of you think I'm over-reacting to vitriolic slander against the current President & his wife...

...this is an example of right wing political hate propaganda that was distributed by the 1000s in Dallas Texas the very day JFK was shot:

http://brane-space.blogspot.com/2009/09 ... llies.html

Back in the '60s, JFK was hated by the far right just as much as they hate Mr Obama today. JFK was also called a communist & socialist & anti Christian & a subversive out to destroy America, the same way Mr Obama is now, by some of the more bitter partisans.

We're never all going to agree with a duly elected President, or any 1 political direction, but this extreme type of hateful dialog is wrong.

PD, you know the response will be "well, now the libs are getting a taste of their own medicine after eight years of media Bush-bashing." And while there is some credence to that claim, it seems to me that the hatred for Obama is deeper and nastier than the hatred for Bush. I may be wrong on that, and it may also depend on perspective.

Just because one side does it doesn't mean it is OK for the other side to do the same, but I think we're locked in a vicious cycle now where it will continue to be the norm.

[VinnieKulick]

Just to let you know Pooldude, calling somebody a whore isn't RACISTS, just because she's black.

And, do you REALLY want us to sit here and believe that the entire right in America thought JFK was WITH the communists when he was setting up the Cuba naval blockade, and putting Marines in Vietnam?


One crackpot making a poster isn't representative of the entire political philosophy of the Republican Party.

[pooldude]

do you REALLY want us to sit here and believe that the entire right in America thought JFK was WITH the communists when he was setting up the Cuba naval blockade, and putting Marines in Vietnam?

Not being alive then, you may be underestimating the degree which the right hated JFK, Vinnie. I was quite cognizant of politics @ that time, & remember it well.

The idea of a Catholic being President of WASP America was as foreign & radical in 1960 as the idea of Mr Obama being President in 2008. Kennedy was hated by the right wing then, much like John Kerry was hated in the previous election.

I'm not criticizing you for having an honest differing point of view, now.

But if you take the time to read the link, I think you'll see some startling similarities to the political mood back then, & of today.


http://brane-space.blogspot.com/2009/09 ... llies.html


"...by his second year JFK stood essentially alone with powerful forces arrayed against him. Forces that questioned every one of his moves....from challenging U.S. Steel (and even denying them defense contracts until they reduced steel prices as they'd originally promised), to opposing the Joint Chiefs in October, 1962 when they pushed for him to attack Cuba with nukes. We now know that no fewer than 95 IRBMs were targeted at U.S. east coast cities and would have been unleashed had JFK been so daft as to follow the Chiefs' advice.


Unfortunately, by standing up to those who advised and pressured him, Kennedy soon came to be viewed as a traitor. He was viewed as a traitor not just by his top military staff (especially after setting out NSAM-263 to pull out of Vietnam by 1965), but also by the CIA - which he threatened to "break into a thousand pieces" after they misled and misinformed him with the Bay of Pigs fiasco, also called 'the Cuba Project' - which had actually been implemented under Eisenhower.


The level and degree of distrust eventually mutated into hate, which could be seen on the streets of Dallas - even hours before JFK arrived at Love Field on Nov. 22, 1963. Shown in the figure, for example, is one of the ten thousand plus 'Wanted for Treason' posters that had been put up around that city. Bear in mind at the time, Dallas was not only a hotbed of right wing hate and extremism - where Adlai Stevenson had been spit on merely a month before the JFK hit, but also the epicenter of the nexus of Big Oil and the military -industrial complex."

[tylamonroe]

If he treated the Haitians like he is treating our economy and personal liberty he could fly over on AF1 with his whore wife, piss on their heads, and tell them a clean rain has come to wash away the sins of Bush.....I just can't ever miss an oportunity to slam on the socialist fuck.

^^^ Spoken like a true bigot.

That's not political debate between respectful Americans over political / philosophical differences...it's blatant racist demonizing straight out of Mein Kampf.

That's the same kind of thinly veiled hard right hatred I remember from the days of JFK, MLK, & RFK.

I waited all afternoon to see if anyone else would speak out against this BS.

Kudos to tin00can.

Holy shit. You are nuttier than squirrel shit after a snickers truck overturn.


So whore and socialist are now racist terms? Jesus Christ. was I being a racist fuck when I opined that Condi Rice did only a passable job as SOS?

I'd really like to get all this straight. Am I now understanding that I can only have a negative opinion of sttraight white men over 45 without being a racist or a NAZI? Ok. THATS respectful dialouge you hypocritical nutswinging commie (see what I did there ;0)).

[pooldude]

So whore and socialist are now racist terms? Jesus Christ. was I being a racist fuck when I opined that Condi Rice did only a passable job as SOS?

I'd really like to get all this straight. Am I now understanding that I can only have a negative opinion of sttraight white men over 45 without being a racist or a NAZI? Ok. THATS respectful dialouge you hypocritical nutswinging commie (see what I did there ;0)).

Calling the 1st Lady of the United States of America "a whore" is over the top demonizing & slander beyond reasonable political dialog, & is no different from the right wing diatribes of Kennedy's time.

Your "shocked" protests to the contrary don't fool me.

[tylamonroe]

So whore and socialist are now racist terms? Jesus Christ. was I being a racist fuck when I opined that Condi Rice did only a passable job as SOS?

I'd really like to get all this straight. Am I now understanding that I can only have a negative opinion of sttraight white men over 45 without being a racist or a NAZI? Ok. THATS respectful dialouge you hypocritical nutswinging commie (see what I did there ;0)).

Calling the 1st Lady of the United States of America "a whore" is over the top demonizing & slander beyond reasonable political dialog, & is no different from the right wing diatribes of Kennedy's time.

Your "shocked" protests to the contrary don't fool me.

I may not "fool you" hippie, but your racist argument falls flat and you've done nothing to butress it here. I'd suggest you re read MK. I think you will find alot more Obama in there than me. Start with creating an enemy. Those nasty nasty wall street bankers seem to be Obamas starting point.

[ROADHEAD]

He's throwing money at it which is really all anyone can do right now. No one would be doing any better. Until they start doing something for themselves, any event will be a major catastrophe that we will have to fix.

[tin00can]

Do you really believe any of that shit? If so, I almost feel sorry for you. Almost. Stupidity that thorough has to be willful.

[tin00can]

I feel the same way about that. Anybody who believes it and/or forwards it is an idiot.

[VinnieKulick]

Pooldude, don't patronize me. Just because you were alive, doesn't mean everything you say is true.

I wasn't alive in the 1700s, but I know why we had the revolution.
I wasn't alive in the 1800s, but I know why the Republican party fought to end slavery.
I wasn't alive during WW1 or WW2 but I know why the US fought those wars.

And,besides your seemingly only source for "information" about the Kennedy situation, do you have any more tangible proof?

[pooldude]

Pooldude, don't patronize me. Just because you were alive, doesn't mean everything you say is true...And,besides your seemingly only source for "information" about the Kennedy situation, do you have any more tangible proof?

Patronize you?

You doubt the existence of extreme right wing hate literature that was aimed @ JFK in 1963?



Try researching the "American Fact Finding Committee, Dallas 1963"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Welco ... _small.jpg



Affiliated with the John Birch Society, they published a full page devoted to Kennedy on his arrival in Dallas in Nov 1963.

The contents of this 'advertisement' titled 'WELCOME MR KENNEDY TO DALLAS' were quite violent.

Among other things it suggested that JFK spoke only about sailing in his speeches, and reproached him for 'scrap[ping] the Monroe Doctrine in favor of the "Spirit of Moscow" '.

The page was black-bordered as for an obituary.




WELCOME MR. KENNEDY TO
DALLAS. . .

A CITY so disgraced by a recent Liberal smear attempt that its citizens have just elected two more Conservative Americans to public office.

A CITY that is an economic "boom town," not because of Federal handouts, but through conservative economic and business practices.

A CITY that will continue to grow and prosper despite efforts by you and your administration to penalize it for its non-conformity to New Frontierism.

A CITY that rejected your philosophy and policies in 1960 and will do so again in 1964--even more emphatically than before.

MR. KENNEDY, despite contentions on the part of your administration, the State Department, the Mayor of Dallas, the Dallas City Council, and members of your party, we free-thinking and America-thinking citizens of Dallas still have, through a Constitution largely ignored by you, the right to address our grievances, to question you, to disagree with you, and to criticize you.

In asserting this constitutional right, we wish to ask you publicly the following questions--indeed, questions of paramount importance and interest to all free peoples everywhere--which we trust you will answer. . .in public, without sophistry.

These questions are:

WHY is Latin America turning either anti-American or Communistic, or both, despite increased U. S. foreign aid, State Department policy, and your own Ivy-Tower pronouncements ?

WHY do you say we have built a "wall of freedom" around Cuba when there is no freedom in Cuba today ? Because of your policy, thousands of Cubans have been imprisoned, are starving and being persecuted--with thousands already murdered and thousands more awaiting execution and, in addition, the entire population of almost 7,000,000 Cubans are living in slavery.

WHY have you approved the sale of wheat and corn to our enemies when you know the Communist soldiers "travel on their stomachs" just as ours do ? Communist soldiers are daily wounding and or killing American soldiers in South Viet Nam.

WHY did you host and entertain Tito--Moscow's Trojan Horse--just a short time after our sworn enemy, Khrushchev, embraced the Yugoslav dictator as a great hero and leader of Communism ?

WHY have you urged greater aid, comfort, recognition, and understanding for Yugoslavia, Poland, Hungary, and other Communists countries, while turning your back on the pleas of Hungarian, East German, Cuban and other anti-Communists freedom fighters ?

WHY did Cambodia kick the U.S. out of its country after we poured nearly 400 Million Dollars of aid into its ultra-leftist government ?

WHY has Gus Hall, head of the U.S. Communist Party praised almost every one of your policies and announced that the party will endorse and support your re-election in 1964 ?

WHY have you banned the showing at U.S. military bases of the film "Operation Abolition"--the movie by the House Committee on Un-American Activities exposing Communism in America ?

WHY have you ordered or permitted your brother Bobby, the Attorney General, to go soft on Communists, fellow-travelers, and ultra-leftists in America, while permitting him to persecute loyal Americans who criticize you, your administration, and your leadership ?

WHY are you in favor of the U.S. continuing to give economic aid to Argentina, in spite of the fact that Argentina has just seized almost 400 Million Dollars of American private property ?

WHY has the Foreign Policy of the United States degenerated to the point that the C.I.A. is arranging coups and having staunch Anti-Communists Allies of the U.S. bloodily exterminated.

WHY have you scrapped the Monroe Doctrine in favor of the "Spirit of Moscow" ?

MR. KENNEDY, as citizens of the United States of America, we DEMAND answers to these questions, and we want them NOW.


THE AMERICAN FACT-FINDING COMMITTEE
"An unaffillated and non-partisan group of citizens who wish truth"

BERNARD WEISSMAN,
Chairman
P.O. Box 1792 --- Dallas 21, Texas

[tylamonroe]

Pooldude, don't patronize me. Just because you were alive, doesn't mean everything you say is true...And,besides your seemingly only source for "information" about the Kennedy situation, do you have any more tangible proof?

Patronize you?

You doubt the existence of extreme right wing hate literature that was aimed @ JFK in 1963?



Try researching the "American Fact Finding Committee, Dallas 1963"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Welco ... _small.jpg



Affiliated with the John Birch Society, they published a full page devoted to Kennedy on his arrival in Dallas in Nov 1963.

The contents of this 'advertisement' titled 'WELCOME MR KENNEDY TO DALLAS' were quite violent.

Among other things it suggested that JFK spoke only about sailing in his speeches, and reproached him for 'scrap[ping] the Monroe Doctrine in favor of the "Spirit of Moscow" '.

The page was black-bordered as for an obituary.




WELCOME MR. KENNEDY TO
DALLAS. . .

A CITY so disgraced by a recent Liberal smear attempt that its citizens have just elected two more Conservative Americans to public office.

A CITY that is an economic "boom town," not because of Federal handouts, but through conservative economic and business practices.

A CITY that will continue to grow and prosper despite efforts by you and your administration to penalize it for its non-conformity to New Frontierism.

A CITY that rejected your philosophy and policies in 1960 and will do so again in 1964--even more emphatically than before.

MR. KENNEDY, despite contentions on the part of your administration, the State Department, the Mayor of Dallas, the Dallas City Council, and members of your party, we free-thinking and America-thinking citizens of Dallas still have, through a Constitution largely ignored by you, the right to address our grievances, to question you, to disagree with you, and to criticize you.

In asserting this constitutional right, we wish to ask you publicly the following questions--indeed, questions of paramount importance and interest to all free peoples everywhere--which we trust you will answer. . .in public, without sophistry.

These questions are:

WHY is Latin America turning either anti-American or Communistic, or both, despite increased U. S. foreign aid, State Department policy, and your own Ivy-Tower pronouncements ?

WHY do you say we have built a "wall of freedom" around Cuba when there is no freedom in Cuba today ? Because of your policy, thousands of Cubans have been imprisoned, are starving and being persecuted--with thousands already murdered and thousands more awaiting execution and, in addition, the entire population of almost 7,000,000 Cubans are living in slavery.

WHY have you approved the sale of wheat and corn to our enemies when you know the Communist soldiers "travel on their stomachs" just as ours do ? Communist soldiers are daily wounding and or killing American soldiers in South Viet Nam.

WHY did you host and entertain Tito--Moscow's Trojan Horse--just a short time after our sworn enemy, Khrushchev, embraced the Yugoslav dictator as a great hero and leader of Communism ?

WHY have you urged greater aid, comfort, recognition, and understanding for Yugoslavia, Poland, Hungary, and other Communists countries, while turning your back on the pleas of Hungarian, East German, Cuban and other anti-Communists freedom fighters ?

WHY did Cambodia kick the U.S. out of its country after we poured nearly 400 Million Dollars of aid into its ultra-leftist government ?

WHY has Gus Hall, head of the U.S. Communist Party praised almost every one of your policies and announced that the party will endorse and support your re-election in 1964 ?

WHY have you banned the showing at U.S. military bases of the film "Operation Abolition"--the movie by the House Committee on Un-American Activities exposing Communism in America ?

WHY have you ordered or permitted your brother Bobby, the Attorney General, to go soft on Communists, fellow-travelers, and ultra-leftists in America, while permitting him to persecute loyal Americans who criticize you, your administration, and your leadership ?

WHY are you in favor of the U.S. continuing to give economic aid to Argentina, in spite of the fact that Argentina has just seized almost 400 Million Dollars of American private property ?

WHY has the Foreign Policy of the United States degenerated to the point that the C.I.A. is arranging coups and having staunch Anti-Communists Allies of the U.S. bloodily exterminated.

WHY have you scrapped the Monroe Doctrine in favor of the "Spirit of Moscow" ?

MR. KENNEDY, as citizens of the United States of America, we DEMAND answers to these questions, and we want them NOW.


THE AMERICAN FACT-FINDING COMMITTEE
"An unaffillated and non-partisan group of citizens who wish truth"

BERNARD WEISSMAN,
Chairman
P.O. Box 1792 --- Dallas 21, Texas

So taking out an ad questionoing an elected officials policy is hate speach? God help us all.

[tylamonroe]

Still waiting for pooldude to back up his claims of racism and nazism against me...

[VinnieKulick]

Pooldude, don't patronize me. Just because you were alive, doesn't mean everything you say is true...And,besides your seemingly only source for "information" about the Kennedy situation, do you have any more tangible proof?

Patronize you?

You doubt the existence of extreme right wing hate literature that was aimed @ JFK in 1963?

I don't doubt for a second that there was opposition to his policies. But, I take issue with the "well, you weren't alive and I was" line of reasoning.
I mean, just because I was born in 1969 doesn't negate the fact that REPUTABLE news sources have never, in my 40 years and one month on this planet, ever made any issue about any kind of widespread 'right wing hatred'. Voicing your opposition to the President isn't HATE speech. HATE speech would be "You slimy Catholic, you deserve to die". Or, is that lost on you?

I mean, seriously, if you're going to take the to post a photo of a ad in a paper, then transcribe it for us, take a few minutes to READ THE FUCKING THING before you conclude that it's "Right Wing Hate Speech".

[Ugmo]

My kingdom for a rightie who actually understands the meaning of the word socialism.

Were you all dropped on your heads as babies?

[VinnieKulick]

My kingdom for a rightie who actually understands the meaning of the word socialism.

Were you all dropped on your heads as babies?

Just because a nation doesn't go 100% socialist, doesn't make some of the actions of it's government NOT socialist when they do it.

[thejuggernaut]

My kingdom for a rightie who actually understands the meaning of the word socialism.

Were you all dropped on your heads as babies?

Just because a nation doesn't go 100% socialist, doesn't make some of the actions of it's government NOT socialist when they do it.

Not to mention, you can't exactly flip a switch and change ideologies overnight in a country like the US.

Not without getting your head blown off.

You have to do it a piece at a time, over a long period of time, and each piece requires a nice propaganda campaign.

[Ugmo]

My kingdom for a rightie who actually understands the meaning of the word socialism.

Were you all dropped on your heads as babies?

Just because a nation doesn't go 100% socialist, doesn't make some of the actions of it's government NOT socialist when they do it.

So then what has Obama done that makes him a socialist that his predecessors didn't do?

[VinnieKulick]

My kingdom for a rightie who actually understands the meaning of the word socialism.

Were you all dropped on your heads as babies?

Just because a nation doesn't go 100% socialist, doesn't make some of the actions of it's government NOT socialist when they do it.

So then what has Obama done that makes him a socialist that his predecessors didn't do?

Use tax payer dollars to purchase stock in private companies, then hand that stock over to union interests, who pretty much deliver block voting to his party.
Use tax payer money to bail out the banks, and then use that to dictate private wages, and negate legally negotiated contracts.
A heavy progressive tax.
Eliminating the end of the Death Tax
The federal reserve banking system (well, others used it too)
A "fairness czar" to oversee 'objectionable' material that radio and tv broadcast.

And, that's just the obvious things.