What are sensible gun laws?

[Luminiferous]

[MotleyMaiden]

So who did you used to be jay city roller?

bonedog69

And this incarnation is trying my patience just as quickly.

Holy shit. I never would have guessed that.

[Constantine]

aLL THE HODLUMS AND HOOLIGANS ARE ON THEIR WAT TO nEW yORK ect... CAUSE THEY KNOW IT WILL BE A FREE SHOOTING RANGE AS THE CITIZENS ARENT ARMED ANYMORE.

Guns are wrong but you cant just take peoples guins away when every bad guys have one.

Obamas schizophrenia is gonna bring your country to civil war.

Think.

This

When you are "this-ing" a retard, your opinion falls from the ranks here..
Oh wait, you're Mr-Pry-my-gun-from-my-cold-dead-hands aren't you? Never mind, your "this" makes sense now..

Yur nothing but commie scum, get a shower moron!

[Luminiferous]

Yur nothing but commie scum, get a shower moron!

Commie scum that owns guns, lives in the greatest country in the world and bathes everyday, surrender monkey..

Go shave your mom's armpits and wash your white flag Frenchy, never know when you may need it..

[Danzig in the Dark]

aLL THE HODLUMS AND HOOLIGANS ARE ON THEIR WAT TO nEW yORK ect... CAUSE THEY KNOW IT WILL BE A FREE SHOOTING RANGE AS THE CITIZENS ARENT ARMED ANYMORE.

Guns are wrong but you cant just take peoples guins away when every bad guys have one.

Obamas schizophrenia is gonna bring your country to civil war.

Think.

How many guns do you have, Constantine?

[Constantine]

aLL THE HODLUMS AND HOOLIGANS ARE ON THEIR WAT TO nEW yORK ect... CAUSE THEY KNOW IT WILL BE A FREE SHOOTING RANGE AS THE CITIZENS ARENT ARMED ANYMORE.

Guns are wrong but you cant just take peoples guins away when every bad guys have one.

Obamas schizophrenia is gonna bring your country to civil war.

Think.

How many guns do you have, Constantine?

Why would I fucking need a gun. Every insane motherfucker and their fucking mother got a gun in the "USA". No wonder scared puppies like Luminuferous got a full cache in his house.

You think you make sense but people in advanced countries think you look like fucking psychos.

[Luminiferous]

I don't own guns because I'm scared, Spedtroll..

I own two guns because it's a right as an American (you know a right you keep crying about Obama taking away from real Americans)
I have them for protection because I live in a real world where I know not everyone is a good and law abiding person and when given the opportunity will try to steal from or harm you..

You're also not in the USA and not in an advanced country and are a known racist and America hater.. Go molest a croissant already, fairydust....

[RATTdrools]

aLL THE HODLUMS AND HOOLIGANS ARE ON THEIR WAT TO nEW yORK ect... CAUSE THEY KNOW IT WILL BE A FREE SHOOTING RANGE AS THE CITIZENS ARENT ARMED ANYMORE.
Guns are wrong but you cant just take peoples guins away when every bad guys have one.
Obamas schizophrenia is gonna bring your country to civil war.
Think.

How many guns do you have, Constantine?

Why would I fucking need a gun. Every insane motherfucker and their fucking mother got a gun in the "USA". No wonder scared puppies like Luminuferous got a full cache in his house.

You think you make sense but people in advanced countries think you look like fucking psychos.

RIGHT ON! What country are you in?

[Danzig in the Dark]

aLL THE HODLUMS AND HOOLIGANS ARE ON THEIR WAT TO nEW yORK ect... CAUSE THEY KNOW IT WILL BE A FREE SHOOTING RANGE AS THE CITIZENS ARENT ARMED ANYMORE.

Guns are wrong but you cant just take peoples guins away when every bad guys have one.

Obamas schizophrenia is gonna bring your country to civil war.

Think.

How many guns do you have, Constantine?

Why would I fucking need a gun. Every insane motherfucker and their fucking mother got a gun in the "USA". No wonder scared puppies like Luminuferous got a full cache in his house.

You think you make sense but people in advanced countries think you look like fucking psychos.

Why are you throwing a fit because you think Obama is going to take them?

[MotleyMaiden]

Why are you throwing a fit because you think Obama is going to take them?

If Obama personally cured cancer tomorrow, he would be on here birching how cancer was beneficial to mankind and did not deserve to be wiped out and that Obama target it unfairly.

[bonedog]

Why are you throwing a fit because you think Obama is going to take them?

If Obama personally cured cancer tomorrow, he would be on here birching how cancer was beneficial to mankind and did not deserve to be wiped out and that Obama target it unfairly.

I like you MotleyMaiden. Will u be my sludge gf?

[MotleyMaiden]

Why are you throwing a fit because you think Obama is going to take them?

If Obama personally cured cancer tomorrow, he would be on here birching how cancer was beneficial to mankind and did not deserve to be wiped out and that Obama target it unfairly.

I like you MotleyMaiden. Will u be my sludge gf?

I don't know. Can we never meet and but I can tell people we have this great relationship and then in a year, I can tell people you died of leukemia and get lots of attention and sympathy and nurse of the year?

[RATTdrools]

[Hooligan]

I go with getting rid of guns as soon as we ban alcohol.

http://www.troopers.ny.gov/Traffic_Safe ... k_Driving/

Did you know that drunk drivers cause more than 17,000 deaths annually. This equates to 310 funerals each week or one death every 30 minutes.

[Stoner]

Worst analogy ever.

You can't compare guns to alcohol based on DUI deaths because there are two variables at play in a DUI - alcohol AND driving.

The only way that comparison would even be fair is if you compared deaths caused by drinking and driving vs. deaths caused by shooting and driving.

Third variable problems are one of the first things you learn about in correlational research/statistics. Did you not go to school past high school?

[RATTdrools]

I go with getting rid of guns as soon as we ban alcohol.

http://www.troopers.ny.gov/Traffic_Safe ... k_Driving/

Did you know that drunk drivers cause more than 17,000 deaths annually. This equates to 310 funerals each week or one death every 30 minutes.

Agree with Stoner. Horrible analogy.

Guns are specifically meant to kill and injure while alcohol is just a liquid like water! I know the chemical makeup is different but it has the same phsycial makeup as water and isn't specifically meant to kill and injure like guns are!

[SeniorGrande]

alcohol is just a liquid like water! I know the chemical makeup is different but it has the same phsycial makeup as water

Genius!

[Danzig in the Dark]

I go with getting rid of guns as soon as we ban alcohol.

http://www.troopers.ny.gov/Traffic_Safe ... k_Driving/

Did you know that drunk drivers cause more than 17,000 deaths annually. This equates to 310 funerals each week or one death every 30 minutes.

Agree with Stoner. Horrible analogy.

If only you had stopped here...

Guns are specifically meant to kill and injure while alcohol is just a liquid like water! I know the chemical makeup is different but it has the same phsycial makeup as water and isn't specifically meant to kill and injure like guns are!

How did you become so incredibly stupid, RattRules? It's a good thing for you breathing is an autonomic function, otherwise you would have asphyxiated long ago.

[Turner Coates]

Guns are specifically meant to kill and injure while alcohol is just a liquid like water! I know the chemical makeup is different but it has the same phsycial makeup as water and isn't specifically meant to kill and injure like guns are!

Go drink some hydrochloric acid.
It's a liquid too and not intended to injure.

[MotleyMaiden]

I go with getting rid of guns as soon as we ban alcohol.

http://www.troopers.ny.gov/Traffic_Safe ... k_Driving/

Did you know that drunk drivers cause more than 17,000 deaths annually. This equates to 310 funerals each week or one death every 30 minutes.

This is a horrible analogy for another reason other than the one that Stoner pointed out as well. Deaths related to DUIs were mcuh higher in the 70-80s. As a result, the age limit for drinking was raised, the legal limit in which someone is considered drunk has been lowered, penalties for DUIs have been made MUCH stiffer, police have new tools such has the portable breathalyzer that they use to determine if someone is drunk, DUI checkpoints are now common, education was made common place on the dangers of drunk driving, in other words- RESTRICTIONS were put in place to combat the epidemic that was know as drunk driving. Now, do people still drive drunk, of course, but the number of people killed each year has decreased significantly over the last 3 decades as a result of these measures.

Maybe if we concentrate on combating the issue of gun violence, we can make the same strides over the next few decades.

[MotleyMaiden]

It is like the "war" on tobacco. 30 years ago, everyone smoked, there was no restrictions. I can remember not only buying cigarettes in high school but having a "smoker's patio". My mother has a hysterectomy in the early 80s and has a smoking room in the hospital. Now you have to be 18 to buy cigarettes, they are not allowed on school property and most hospitals not only don't allow it in the building but don't allow it anywhere on the property. Hell, 20 years ago, when I started nursing, even though smoking wasn't allowed IN the hospital, we did it int he staff bathroom anyway. That would never happen now. You can't even do it in your car while it is parked on the premises. Hell, there are some hospitals that are refusing to even hire smokers.

The point is, things change. With time and education, people and views change. It took years and was done in baby steps and people still do smoke but it is not nearly as prevalent as it was several decades ago. It is time for the gun laws to change. It is time for people's (especially children's) lives start to come first. It is time for people to stop using the paranoia of some phantom dictatorship and a ridiculous interpretation of an amendment that was written well over 200 years ago to continue to allow people to be killed.

With everything else in this country, when people are injured are killed, we IMMEDIATELY begin to look for ways to prevent it from happening again. We IMMEDIATELY start to pass laws and regulations to prevent it from happening again. The only exception is guns. 20 children get gunned down and the only reaction from the gun loving right is "hey it is my right to own a gun and we can't stop it from happening. Guns are necessary for our way of life and there is nothing we can do so we shouldn't do anything." In the mean time more kids die.

[Hooligan]

Worst analogy ever.

You can't compare guns to alcohol based on DUI deaths because there are two variables at play in a DUI - alcohol AND driving.

The only way that comparison would even be fair is if you compared deaths caused by drinking and driving vs. deaths caused by shooting and driving.

Third variable problems are one of the first things you learn about in correlational research/statistics. Did you not go to school past high school?

Wow, the density. It's about keeping it simple and SAVING LIVES. 17k people were killed due to drinking and driving. 11k were killed due to guns. You can use ANY gun to kill someone right? Get rid of the guns, the lives are saved. How do you stop people from drinking and driving unless you outlaw it?

[Hooligan]

I go with getting rid of guns as soon as we ban alcohol.

http://www.troopers.ny.gov/Traffic_Safe ... k_Driving/

Did you know that drunk drivers cause more than 17,000 deaths annually. This equates to 310 funerals each week or one death every 30 minutes.

This is a horrible analogy for another reason other than the one that Stoner pointed out as well. Deaths related to DUIs were mcuh higher in the 70-80s. As a result, the age limit for drinking was raised, the legal limit in which someone is considered drunk has been lowered, penalties for DUIs have been made MUCH stiffer, police have new tools such has the portable breathalyzer that they use to determine if someone is drunk, DUI checkpoints are now common, education was made common place on the dangers of drunk driving, in other words- RESTRICTIONS were put in place to combat the epidemic that was know as drunk driving. Now, do people still drive drunk, of course, but the number of people killed each year has decreased significantly over the last 3 decades as a result of these measures.

Maybe if we concentrate on combating the issue of gun violence, we can make the same strides over the next few decades.

BUT alcohol is still legal isn't it? All the laws on the books don't stop people from breaking them. Did the laws help? Maybe, I don't know what the stats are but I remember being able to get booze pretty easily as a kid in the 80's. Kids today can get shit easily. As for fixing gun violence, personally, I don't think there's any way of fixing that. Law abiding gun owners will generally always be so. Criminals and nuts, nope.

[Stoner]

Wow, the density.

You don't understand one of the most basic concepts of correlation, but I'm the dense one.

Sounds legit.

[Luminiferous]

How do you stop people from drinking and driving unless you outlaw it?

Isn't it already outlawed?

[Danzig in the Dark]

How do you stop people from drinking and driving unless you outlaw it?

Isn't it already outlawed?

I used to think no one could be that stupid. Thanks, internet.

[bonedog]

How do you stop people from drinking and driving unless you outlaw it?

Isn't it already outlawed?

I used to think no one could be that stupid. Thanks, internet.

lumi got powned. lol

[Constantine]

How do you stop people from drinking and driving unless you outlaw it?

Isn't it already outlawed?

in wHAT GRADE DID you quit school Luminufuckous? Your attempt at sarcasm fell flat like the greasy hair on your head.

[Luminiferous]

in wHAT GRADE DID you quit school Luminufuckous? Your attempt at sarcasm fell flat like the greasy hair on your head.

It was also explained to you several months ago Spedtard, that the young man in my avatar is not me, (which others on this board who have met and know me can attest to) but a young dead US soldier I knew who was killed in Afghanistan.. It is a tribute to his memory.

Nice that you're not above continuing to insult a young US serviceman killed protecting the US.. He was more of a man that you could ever hope to be.

Not surprising seeing how much you hate Americans... You're a coward and a disgrace to this message board.

lumi got powned. lol

lol He was referring to schoolagain, failtard lol.. Hilarious that you lol and Constantard lol completely missed it.. lol Drinking and driving is outlawed, yet people still do it.
You two lol should start a lol tard tag team lol..

[Hooligan]

How do you stop people from drinking and driving unless you outlaw it?

Isn't it already outlawed?

To clarify, since you guys are anal perfectionists, I meant to outlaw drinking itself.