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Posted: **Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:07 pm**

Chris Kyle's death seems to confirm that "he who lives by the sword dies by the sword." Treating PTSD at a firing range doesn't make sense
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Ron Paul (@RonPaul) February 04, 2013

Posted: **Mon Feb 04, 2013 4:59 pm**

I don't like the above post because it's NOT an accurate assessment.

Posted: **Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:13 pm**

Posted: **Mon Feb 04, 2013 6:25 pm**

Moggio wrote:I don't like the above post because it's NOT an accurate assessment.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/20 ... navy-seal/

"Chris Kyle's death seems to confirm that "he who lives by the sword dies by the sword." Treating PTSD at a firing range doesn't make sense"

Posted: **Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:31 am**

SmokingGun wrote:Chris Kyle's death seems to confirm that "he who lives by the sword dies by the sword." Treating PTSD at a firing range doesn't make sense
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Ron Paul (@RonPaul) February 04, 2013

Why is he a piece of shit? Because he was right? He was right on the money with this post too.

As a veteran, I certainly recognize that this weekend's violence and killing of Chris Kyle were a tragic and sad event. My condolences and prayers go out to Mr. Kyle’s family. Unconstitutional and unnecessary wars have endless unintended consequences. A policy of non-violence, as Christ preached, would have prevented this and similar tragedies. -REP

Posted: **Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:51 pm**

Ron Paul is right.

"Treating" PTSD without a clinical license isn't just stupid and irresponsible, it's fucking reprehensible and deadly. Innocent people died and now this mentally ill man is going to be charged with murder because some dumbfuck wanted to prove a point about guns healing mental illness.

Nobody's saying he deserved it, just that nobody should be shocked that it went down that way.

Posted: **Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:55 pm**

Who the fuck treats PTSD at a gun range?? I have not followed this story that closely so this is the first I have heard of that part. Jesus, that is dumb. The whole thing is sad and tragic but he probably should have let the professionals help this guy.

I did find it very ironic that at a time that some people in this country are proclaiming we need MORE guns to be able to defend ourselves, a former SEAL sniper gets gunned down at a GUN range. I can't be sure, but I am betting he was armed while he was there.

Posted: **Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:32 pm**

MotleyMaiden wrote:Who the fuck treats PTSD at a gun range??

I can only think of one person who'd think it was a great idea..

Posted: **Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:42 pm**

He was trying "rehabilitate" him using exposure therapy methods. He was acting as a clinician and tried performing a very precise and intense form of therapy with absolutely no license to do so. It takes time to build a solid and reliable exposure hierarchy, and even with that in place, you sure as fuck don't put live ammunition in the hands of a wartime veteran suffering from PTSD.

Eddy Ray Routh isn't a murderer - he's a victim.

Posted: **Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:54 pm**

Stoner wrote:He was trying "rehabilitate" him using exposure therapy methods. He was acting as a clinician and tried performing a very precise and intense form of therapy with absolutely no license to do so. It takes time to build a solid and reliable exposure hierarchy, and even with that in place, you sure as fuck don't put live ammunition in the hands of a wartime veteran suffering from PTSD.

Eddy Ray Routh isn't a murderer - he's a victim.

I think it is pretty clear how I feel about murders these days, but even I have to agree with you 100% that Routh is a victim. Unfortunately, since this occurred in Texas and Kyle is some sort of American Hero, I guess the prosecution will be out for blood, ie: the death penalty. What Routh really needs is a mental hospital and PROPER treatment for what this country has done to him while he was serving it.

Posted: **Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:11 pm**

The fact that this man is sitting in jail right now is infuriating. He should be under VA care, not incarcerated.

While I have no doubts that Kyle's intentions were good, what he did was no different than trying to perform a kidney transplant with out an MD.

Posted: **Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:37 pm**

Stoner wrote:The fact that this man is sitting in jail right now is infuriating. He should be under VA care, not incarcerated.

While I have no doubts that Kyle's intentions were good, what he did was no different than trying to perform a kidney transplant with out an MD.

Hell, without an MD, even with an MD, it would be totally irresponsible and dangerous for an OB-GYN to try and perform a kidney transplant. This man has NO business trying to treat him, no matter how good his intentions. I am sure not every therapist is able to treat severe PTSD, nor should be. Someone with no training and no license certainly shouldn't be "taking a whack at it".

Jesus. And yes, Routh should be in a hospital right now. Horrible

Posted: **Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:13 pm**

Wheresthestagemanager? wrote:
Moggio wrote:I don't like the above post because it's NOT an accurate assessment.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/20 ... navy-seal/

"Chris Kyle's death seems to confirm that "he who lives by the sword dies by the sword." Treating PTSD at a firing range doesn't make sense"

You do know that the thread title is part of the post, right?

You are one stupid fuck.

Posted: **Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:20 pm**

Moggio wrote:
You are one stupid fuck.

I'm smart enough to make you hop like a Mexican jumping bean.

Posted: **Wed Feb 06, 2013 5:19 pm**

Wheresthestagemanager? wrote:
Moggio wrote:
You are one stupid fuck.
I'm smart enough to make you hop like a Mexican jumping bean.

Translation:

I didn't realize that the thread title was part of the post.

Posted: **Wed Feb 06, 2013 5:43 pm**

Odds on him running again in '16?

Posted: **Wed Feb 06, 2013 5:45 pm**

Moggio wrote:
Wheresthestagemanager? wrote:
Moggio wrote:
You are one stupid fuck.
I'm smart enough to make you hop like a Mexican jumping bean.
Translation:

I didn't realize that the thread title was part of the post.

See, I made ya dance again.
You're too easy.

Posted: **Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:12 pm**

Fletch wrote:Odds on him running again in '16?

Rand is running in '16. He all but announced a bid in his Heritage Foundation speech today.

Posted: **Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:16 pm**

Fletch wrote:Odds on him running again in '16?

1/1000000

Posted: **Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:05 am**

I actually agree with stoner and mm. It was a painfully dumb thing to do. I understand the thought behind it, sort of a 'tough it out, you are military and it will bring you back to earth' mentality but not everything can be done that way. Very stupid thing to do. The guy should be in a hospital.

Posted: **Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:53 pm**

Wheresthestagemanager? wrote:
Moggio wrote:Translation:

I didn't realize that the thread title was part of the post.

See, I made ya dance again.
You're too easy.

ONE. MORE. TIME. FOR. THE. WORLD.:

Translation:

I didn't realize that the thread title was part of the post.

Posted: **Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:17 pm**

Brilliant rejoinder, Hoppity.
See how you are?

Posted: **Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:16 pm**

Wheresthestagemanager? wrote:Brilliant rejoinder, Hoppity.
See how you are?

Your backpedaling efforts don't work, asshole.

SON. ONE. MORE. TIME. FOR. THE. WORLD.:

Translation:

I didn't realize that the thread title was part of the post.

Wheresthestagemanager? wrote:

Ron Paul NEVER stated that, nor did he write the particular parts of the newsletters in question. Btw, while RP personally disagrees with it, politically he's more for gay marriage rights than your own idiotic President is. Obamination only came out in favour of it 7 or 8 months ago. And Obama ONLY did that to win more votes for the election...

Keep tryin' and you'll keep failin'...

Posted: **Sat Feb 09, 2013 12:10 am**

Grendel wrote:Monggolio is racist, anti-semetic, AND homophobic?

And he does a funny little dance when ya pull his strings.
But you already knew that.

Posted: **Sat Feb 09, 2013 5:42 pm**

Wheresthestagemanager? wrote:
Grendel wrote:Monggolio is racist, anti-semetic, AND homophobic?
And he does a funny little dance when ya pull his strings.
But you already knew that.

Posted: **Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:00 pm**

Gotcha again!

Posted: **Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:50 pm**

Moggio wrote:
Wheresthestagemanager? wrote:
Grendel wrote:Monggolio is racist, anti-semetic, AND homophobic?
And he does a funny little dance when ya pull his strings.
But you already knew that.

So that's pretty much your motto in life...

Posted: **Sun Feb 10, 2013 5:48 pm**

Wheresthestagemanager? wrote:Gotcha again!

Luminiferous wrote:So that's pretty much your motto in life...

Posted: **Sun Feb 10, 2013 5:58 pm**

Moggio wrote:

Posted: **Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:09 pm**

Moggio wrote:
Wheresthestagemanager? wrote:Gotcha again!

Luminiferous wrote:So that's pretty much your motto in life...

How true.. just think without the internet we'd been denied the hilarity of your stupidity, Mongo....

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