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US vs. NK Who fires the first shot?

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:36 am
by BDG135
I doubt North Korea will attack first and I don't think anyone can convince Mr. Kim to stop his nuclear program. The US is gonna attack first. The best hope is to take out Mr. Kim in the beginning. I'm sure there are people on the inside already trying to do that. What say you Sludgers?

Re: US vs. NK Who fires the first shot?

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:13 pm
by *flick*
BDG135 wrote:I doubt North Korea will attack first and I don't think anyone can convince Mr. Kim to stop his nuclear program. The US is gonna attack first. The best hope is to take out Mr. Kim in the beginning. I'm sure there are people on the inside already trying to do that. What say you Sludgers?


This is just a hunch, but I'm thinking fatty boy's missiles are just empty metal shells paraded around on flatbed trailers.

Re: US vs. NK Who fires the first shot?

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 6:57 am
by Mojo
Why would you think North Korea wouldn't fire first? Jong-un doesn't give a shit about his own people or how many die to further his name. They're testing their arms weekly; getting ready. The US keeps provoking North Korea, and yet does nothing, giving North Korea time to get their shit together so they can nuke us into oblivion. If Trump was legitimately concerned for the people of North Korea or a potential American conflict with them, he'd send in a SEAL team to remove Jong-un instead of just taunting him from across the ocean, waiting for his chance to be "forced" into full-scale war. We know from Iraq that this isn't always a great choice, but 'merica! gives no fucks about consequences. The whole thing is a game to these people, and neither side cares who dies in the process.

Re: US vs. NK Who fires the first shot?

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 7:14 am
by BDG135
I don't think Mr. Kim is stupid enough to think his dynasty can survive a war with the US. Waiting for the US to attack first is also a way to show the world the US is the imperialist aggressor they say it is.

Re: US vs. NK Who fires the first shot?

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 9:00 am
by Mojo
I think Jong-un is stupid enough. He's running a totalitarian dictatorship. He doesn't care if his citizens eat. Why would he care about sending them to war?

Re: US vs. NK Who fires the first shot?

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 9:24 am
by MurrayFiend
I think your analysis is off. Like Gaddafi and Saddam before him, Kim is far more concerned with holding onto power than anything else. He'll have his little displays of supposed 'strength' but I seriously doubt he'd ever launch an attack on a superpower like that.

Re: US vs. NK Who fires the first shot?

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 12:10 pm
by Mojo
MurrayFiend wrote:I think your analysis is off. Like Gaddafi and Saddam before him, Kim is far more concerned with holding onto power than anything else. He'll have his little displays of supposed 'strength' but I seriously doubt he'd ever launch an attack on a superpower like that.

Well, I sure hope so!

Re: US vs. NK Who fires the first shot?

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 12:19 pm
by MurrayFiend
Me too. I want climate change to have its fair chance to destroy us all.

Re: US vs. NK Who fires the first shot?

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 12:36 pm
by Mojo
MurrayFiend wrote:Me too. I want climate change to have its fair chance to destroy us all.

Pssh. That would have to be a real thing, first.

Re: US vs. NK Who fires the first shot?

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 12:46 pm
by MurrayFiend
You're right. As Rex Tillerson or some other guy like him so astutely stated, there is no such thing as scientific consensus.

Re: US vs. NK Who fires the first shot?

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 12:58 pm
by Mojo
MurrayFiend wrote:You're right. As Rex Tillerson or some other guy like him so astutely stated, there is no such thing as scientific consensus.

Why would I choose to believe the overwhelming majority of people who study this stuff for a living, when I can believe the coal lobby via Fox News? No brainer.

Re: US vs. NK Who fires the first shot?

Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 12:34 pm
by Blizzard of Cos
I can't give away too much, but there is a plan in place for Dennis Rodman to take over. Kinda like a d'etat, but without the coup.

Re: US vs. NK Who fires the first shot?

Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 12:37 pm
by Mojo
Blizzard of Cos wrote:I can't give away too much, but there is a plan in place for Dennis Rodman to take over. Kinda like a d'etat, but without the coup.

That would be a detwat.

Re: US vs. NK Who fires the first shot?

Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 2:20 pm
by Blizzard of Cos
Mojo wrote:
Blizzard of Cos wrote:I can't give away too much, but there is a plan in place for Dennis Rodman to take over. Kinda like a d'etat, but without the coup.

That would be a detwat.


Thanks for the clarification, I should've realized it was the feminine tense.
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Re: US vs. NK Who fires the first shot?

Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 2:30 pm
by Mojo
The full feminine form is cooze detwat.

Re: US vs. NK Who fires the first shot?

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:45 am
by BDG135
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nort ... SKCN1AU04U

In his first public appearance in about two weeks, Kim inspected the command of the North's army on Monday, examining a plan to fire four missiles aimed at landing near the U.S. Pacific territory of Guam, the official KCNA news agency reported.

"He said that if the Yankees persist in their extremely dangerous reckless actions on the Korean peninsula and in its vicinity, testing the self-restraint of the DPRK, the latter will make an important decision as it already declared," KCNA said.

Re: US vs. NK Who fires the first shot?

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:54 pm
by Traxan
NK news broadcasts are hilarious. Keith Olbermann at his worst can't touch these guys for over the top insanity.

As for fat boy, I'm hoping he's stupid enough to provoke the Japanese. First, it would get us in because, hey, we're obliged to help out an ally. More to the point, the Japanese will go full samurai on the North in a way the South or Americans wouldn't. They would absolutely level Pyonyang and tell the Chinese to fuck off if they complain. And according to a Stratfor report, if Japan and China were to get into a fight, China would lose badly.

The one big difference is that if a fight breaks out, I suspect the US would take up more of a defensive position and not go into the North to keep China happy, and focus instead on taking out all that artillery aimed at Seoul, while Japan would just go right at Pyonyang. And the South is even more dubious. I've read more than a few stories that said many South Koreans wouldn't fight fellow Koreans, even if they are with the North.

So if a fight breaks out, the ones I'm counting on the least is the South Koreans.