The moment_________went to shit as a band?

[DemonFilth2001]

When Mutt Lange and Phil Collen took over Def Leppard.

Nevermore going on stage shitfaced during the Obsidian Conspiracy tour. There was fan report after report of this unprofessional behavior.

Jesper Stromblad's downward spiral and diminishing role in In Flames in the 2000s.

Metallica. Load. Nuff said.

Anthrax, "I'm the Man." Took decades before people took them seriously again

Lange helped bring High n Dry out of the band that created the abomination titled "On Through the Night." No Lange and Leppard would have died.

[Bono Nettencourt]

Yeah that take is wrong on so many levels.

[pieceofme]

Metallica St Anger

[john3232]

First one for me was KISS TV movie.

Agree. I couldn't believe how crappy the movie was. The solo records weren't much better.

I was a huge Kiss fan starting with Kiss Alive and by 1977-78 the band was on top of the world.

Yet, by 1980 they had become a joke.

[VincentVanWinger]

Warrant - Belly to Belly

I went to Best Buy and got Belly to Belly. Went home and listened to it. Was so disgusted at how shit it was I promptly got up and went back to Best Buy and told them it wouldn’t play in my player. Since it was opened I should have gotten the same disc but there were no more copies so I was able to pick something else. I ended up with Van Halen Best Of as far as I recall. I don’t think I’d ever been moved to take a cd back to the store the same day after one listen before or since.

[Velvis]

Iron Maiden : No Prayer For The Dying and then again A Matter Of Life and Death

AMOLAD is my favorite Maiden album.

[roxxxtar]

When Jon Bon Jovi cut his hair and kicked Alec out.
Band has been crap ever since.

[risingfarce]

Dio went to shite when he hired Tracy G.
Ozzy went to shit three tracks into Ozzmosis

DIO went to shit when he hired Craig Goldy.

Ozzy went to shit when he hired Yakk Wylde.

[BernieTaupson]

AMOLAD is my favorite Maiden album.

That’s fine, people are allowed to like shit. And always remember :

Out of the darkness brighter than a thousand suns
Out of the darkness brighter than a thousand suns
Out of the darkness brighter than a thousand suns
Out of the darkness brighter than a thousand suns!

Out of the darkness brighter than a thousand suns
Out of the darkness brighter than a thousand suns
Out of the darkness brighter than a thousand suns!

Hey!

Out of the darkness brighter than a thousand suns?

Out of the darkness brighter than a thousand suns!

[DangerZone]

AMOLAD is my favorite Maiden album.

That’s fine, people are allowed to like shit. And always remember :

Out of the darkness brighter than a thousand suns
Out of the darkness brighter than a thousand suns
Out of the darkness brighter than a thousand suns
Out of the darkness brighter than a thousand suns!

Out of the darkness brighter than a thousand suns
Out of the darkness brighter than a thousand suns
Out of the darkness brighter than a thousand suns!

Hey!

Out of the darkness brighter than a thousand suns?

Out of the darkness brighter than a thousand suns!

Is it as brilliant as
“Don’t you think I’m a savior, don’t you think I could save you, don’t you think I could save your life?” ♾

[AlexVonHaig]

When Jon Bon Jovi cut his hair and kicked Alec out.
Band has been crap ever since.

This is the winner. No band has ever gone from Rocker to Shitter in one swift move. I liken it to a non metal ELP with Works Vol 1. Emerson, the bands rock writer, wanted to do concertos. They went from an energetic live act to a snooze fest. And I'm talking about both bands

[Velvis]

AMOLAD is my favorite Maiden album.

That’s fine, people are allowed to like shit. And always remember :

Out of the darkness brighter than a thousand suns
Out of the darkness brighter than a thousand suns
Out of the darkness brighter than a thousand suns
Out of the darkness brighter than a thousand suns!

Out of the darkness brighter than a thousand suns
Out of the darkness brighter than a thousand suns
Out of the darkness brighter than a thousand suns!

Hey!

Out of the darkness brighter than a thousand suns?

Out of the darkness brighter than a thousand suns!

In my opinion there are a lot of great songs on that LP and a lot of great guitar riffs. But to each their own.

[killdrum]

First one for me was KISS TV movie.

Agree there. They had such a cool mystery about the band. Then you see Ace "act" like a fucking drunk moron saying "ack". It killed everything I thought was cool about them.

[gtrjay]

When Johnny “let’s” RObbie sing 3-4 songs live. Horrible. Always bolt for a piss and beer line.

We can debate when the GGD went to shit often. But Robbie is terrible and should sing live. Ever.

[Love_Industry]

Dio went to shite when he hired Tracy G.
Ozzy went to shit three tracks into Ozzmosis

DIO went to shit when he hired Craig Goldy.

Ozzy went to shit when he hired Yakk Wylde.

Dio should have hired the guy who wrote his first two albums. Trev Fleming.

[Bono Nettencourt]

Dream Evil was a good record. LotW was when the wheels fell off.

[Love_Industry]

Dream Evil was a good record. LotW was when the wheels fell off.

Dream Evil is better than Sacred Heart. The filler is less obvious on DE, SH feels very much like they ran out of songs- or Sweet Savage riffs - in the middle of recording it.

Could Have Been a Dreamer was a bad choice for single though. Not sure if Dio could have a hit in 87-88 at all but absolutely not with that forgettable song.

[Kerry67]

Def Leppard - Firing Pete Willis
Motley Crue - Hiring Vince Neil
Motley Crue - Anything after SATD
KISS - Going by Characters instead of their names after the reunion
Aerosmith - Going way to Commercial starting with Permanent Vacation
Van Halen - Becoming Van Hagar

[DemonFilth2001]

When Johnny “let’s” RObbie sing 3-4 songs live. Horrible. Always bolt for a piss and beer line.

We can debate when the GGD went to shit often. But Robbie is terrible and should sing live. Ever.

Robbie must have some dirt on Johnny. He's a horrible singer and writer. Has no place in GGD or ANY band.

[tooth]

When Johnny “let’s” RObbie sing 3-4 songs live. Horrible. Always bolt for a piss and beer line.

We can debate when the GGD went to shit often. But Robbie is terrible and should sing live. Ever.

Robbie must have some dirt on Johnny. He's a horrible singer and writer. Has no place in GGD or ANY band.

Of course he does, they have been together for almost 40 years. With that being said, I disagree. I love the Robbie songs both live & on record. Another Second Time Around & Amigone are excellent.

[Mister Freeze]

Def Leppard - Firing Pete Willis
Motley Crue - Hiring Vince Neil
Motley Crue - Anything after SATD
KISS - Going by Characters instead of their names after the reunion
Aerosmith - Going way to Commercial starting with Permanent Vacation
Van Halen - Becoming Van Hagar

The thread isn't called what bands did to become or remain successful.

[pieceofme]

Def Leppard - Firing Pete Willis
Motley Crue - Hiring Vince Neil
Motley Crue - Anything after SATD
KISS - Going by Characters instead of their names after the reunion
Aerosmith - Going way to Commercial starting with Permanent Vacation
Van Halen - Becoming Van Hagar

The thread isn't called what bands did to become or remain successful.

The Motley Crue one makes no sense.

[roxxxtar]

I can make it simple by saying, when the hair farmers started growing goatees, it all went to shit.

[rubysdad]

I remember a radio announcer commenting that you could hear November Rain playing, and hear the greatest band in the world throw it all away as the song droned on.

I riled at the time, but in hindsight think he may have been right.

[500DaysofNight]

Van Cherone

As bad as it was, I think the fans would've taken to it just a bit more if Roth hadn't been dangled like a carrot right before.

[risingfarce]

When Johnny “let’s” RObbie sing 3-4 songs live. Horrible. Always bolt for a piss and beer line.

We can debate when the GGD went to shit often. But Robbie is terrible and should sing live. Ever.

"Domino" rocks ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lq9Q24OB7gs

Robbie had a lot of hard, melodic tracks.

[Love_Industry]

I can make it simple by saying, when the hair farmers started growing goatees, it all went to shit.

This is the right answer. Going grunge, aka. career suicide.

[alexleehooker]

Def Leppard - Firing Pete Willis
Motley Crue - Hiring Vince Neil
Motley Crue - Anything after SATD
KISS - Going by Characters instead of their names after the reunion
Aerosmith - Going way to Commercial starting with Permanent Vacation
Van Halen - Becoming Van Hagar

The thread isn't called what bands did to become or remain successful.

The Motley Crue one makes no sense.

Without Odean upfront is it really Crue?

[Bono Nettencourt]

Van Cherone

As bad as it was, I think the fans would've taken to it just a bit more if Roth hadn't been dangled like a carrot right before.

Well, yes. I was ofc referring to that as well. Still don't understand what they and their mgmt were thinking.

[GoodJudge]

Def Leppard - Firing Pete Willis
Motley Crue - Hiring Vince Neil
Motley Crue - Anything after SATD
KISS - Going by Characters instead of their names after the reunion
Aerosmith - Going way to Commercial starting with Permanent Vacation
Van Halen - Becoming Van Hagar

The thread isn't called what bands did to become or remain successful.

The Motley Crue one makes no sense.

You can be successful and shit. No-one will disagree that McDonald's is one of the biggest food companies in the world but their "meat" is a blend of factory scrapings, rat droppings and corn starch served in the blandest excuse for "bread" that exists. With a gherkin. So it's quite reasonable to argue that Motley went to shit in terms of quality after SATD, whilst also being incredibly successful, because the mass market will gulp down shit and ask for seconds if it's packaged right.

My pick is Manic Street Preachers after Richie disappeared. They went straight to dad-rock and the last time i saw them live, at a festival circa 2007, they had keyboards on their fast+furious, heavy guitar early songs. Fucking awful. They should have retired the old band name and carried on playing as something else.