He just wanted to bang her. And trying to make her into a rocker chick just didn't work either.
I always got the feeling she hated the entire ordeal, as Richie Stotts has said she was heartbroken and pissed when Gene fired him.
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He just wanted to bang her. And trying to make her into a rocker chick just didn't work either.
But Desmond did not write most of IWMFLY. Paul had an idea about a song inspired by what was played at Studio 54 with a pulsating beat and lyrics about immediate pleasure and put together an idea called "Tonight" with Child. The chorus and title came together at SIR Studios with Vini Poncia kicking it off by adding a Four Tops type chorus to the verses of Tonight. Then him and Paul developed it to what we know with Gene also there, but no Child.TooOldToCare wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 3:08 am Paul jump-started his renowned career, but it wasn't Paul's doing. Desmond co-wrote (or probably mostly wrote) the song. It was his own doing.
I stand corrected with more KISS details than any human being should know.Love_Industry wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 6:47 amBut Desmond did not write most of IWMFLY. Paul had an idea about a song inspired by what was played at Studio 54 with a pulsating beat and lyrics about immediate pleasure and put together an idea called "Tonight" with Child. The chorus and title came together at SIR Studios with Vini Poncia kicking it off by adding a Four Tops type chorus to the verses of Tonight. Then him and Paul developed it to what we know with Gene also there, but no Child.TooOldToCare wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 3:08 am Paul jump-started his renowned career, but it wasn't Paul's doing. Desmond co-wrote (or probably mostly wrote) the song. It was his own doing.
This from one of the Partners in Crime books and the authors interviewed both Poncia and Child and listened to tapes from SIR to get the story right.
They also mention that Paul in 79 thought Peter's Dirty Livin' should be the starting point for the direction of their new album and that Peter is on record saying he loves disco and that disco is here to stay so he made his own disco song.
From the hit album: KISS: Half-a-Million Platinum, for which they shipped 500,000,000,000 copies but only sold 40.
Best song on the album.Love_Industry wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 6:47 am
They also mention that Paul in 79 thought Peter's Dirty Livin' should be the starting point for the direction of their new album and that Peter is on record saying he loves disco and that disco is here to stay so he made his own disco song.
Gene used his own money to fly the band to NYC, record the demo (his time and his money), and purchased stage clothes for DLR. He had a contract with the band and tore it up. He spent time and money and didn't get anything in return. Although, he did get a thank you on the back cover of the first VH lp. EVH remained friends with Paul and Gene. EVH and AVH went into the studio with Gene to record three songs Gene was working on for KISS and his solo lp. So, there's nothing to be "debunked".TooOldToCare wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 3:08 am The answer is no one.
Gene's version of discovering VH has been debunked down to maybe recording a demo, and that's it. Desmond took off because a disco-rock song took off. Indirectly, Paul jump-started his renowned career, but it wasn't Paul's doing. Desmond co-wrote (or probably mostly wrote) the song. It was his own doing.
I remember Gene going on and on about that Bag dude. WTAF? That was shit.
Very little non-KISS business was successful including people they worked with or who worked for them.
Desmond came into the situation because Paul wanted to pork his girlfriend Maria Vidal who also sang in his band. Without her in the picture, Paul wouldn't have given Desmond or his no-hope disco rock band a second thought.risingfarce wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 7:44 pm
BTW, Desmond didn't come into the situation with "I Was Made For Loving You". Paul and he worked on it together. Afterwards, Paul and Vini Poncia worked on it. The chorus was written by Paul and Vini.
I thought Desmond Child was gay and that was what attracted PaulLove_Industry wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2024 7:55 amDesmond came into the situation because Paul wanted to pork his girlfriend Maria Vidal who also sang in his band. Without her in the picture, Paul wouldn't have given Desmond or his no-hope disco rock band a second thought.risingfarce wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 7:44 pm
BTW, Desmond didn't come into the situation with "I Was Made For Loving You". Paul and he worked on it together. Afterwards, Paul and Vini Poncia worked on it. The chorus was written by Paul and Vini.
Paul liked DC & Rouge. Desmond was in a relationship with Vidal. Paul dated one of the other two women in the band. Paul and Desmond wrote "The Fight" for DC & Rouge. Then Paul and Desmond worked on "IWMFLY". The two of them remained friends and later worked together on some KISS songs and much later on some songs on "Live To Win". Paul wrote the Foreword for Desmond's book.Love_Industry wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2024 7:55 amDesmond came into the situation because Paul wanted to pork his girlfriend Maria Vidal who also sang in his band. Without her in the picture, Paul wouldn't have given Desmond or his no-hope disco rock band a second thought.risingfarce wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 7:44 pm
BTW, Desmond didn't come into the situation with "I Was Made For Loving You". Paul and he worked on it together. Afterwards, Paul and Vini Poncia worked on it. The chorus was written by Paul and Vini.
Desmond is gay.Stinky McFister wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2024 3:47 pmI thought Desmond Child was gay and that was what attracted PaulLove_Industry wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2024 7:55 amDesmond came into the situation because Paul wanted to pork his girlfriend Maria Vidal who also sang in his band. Without her in the picture, Paul wouldn't have given Desmond or his no-hope disco rock band a second thought.risingfarce wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 7:44 pm
BTW, Desmond didn't come into the situation with "I Was Made For Loving You". Paul and he worked on it together. Afterwards, Paul and Vini Poncia worked on it. The chorus was written by Paul and Vini.
Desmond didn't know he was gay at the time. He was in a relationship with Vidal and had "experimented" with dudes ala Ace or Peter. Unlike them, he later accepted that he was gay and eventually came out.risingfarce wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2024 1:08 amDesmond is gay.Stinky McFister wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2024 3:47 pmI thought Desmond Child was gay and that was what attracted PaulLove_Industry wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2024 7:55 am
Desmond came into the situation because Paul wanted to pork his girlfriend Maria Vidal who also sang in his band. Without her in the picture, Paul wouldn't have given Desmond or his no-hope disco rock band a second thought.
Paul is not gay.
Hey question.risingfarce wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 12:17 amI'm sure you got your cold sore from Desmond.BernieTaupson wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 11:55 pmrisingfarce wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 11:36 pm Desmond Child has stated that he owes his cold sore to Paul.
I'm also sure you're the type to pass it around.
One might think Doro's career peaked way before her SECOND solo album with Gene and MELONHEAD as producers.CanadianMetal wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2024 6:17 pm DORO - He produced her first solo album and was the main reason I even bought it .
fifyrisingfarce wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2024 1:08 amI am not gay for DesmondStinky McFister wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2024 3:47 pmI thought Desmond Child was gay and that was what attracted PaulLove_Industry wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2024 7:55 am
Desmond came into the situation because Paul wanted to pork his girlfriend Maria Vidal who also sang in his band. Without her in the picture, Paul wouldn't have given Desmond or his no-hope disco rock band a second thought.
I am gay for Paul
It certainly didn't peak with her first, it was a bit of a bomb and that's probably why Mercury called in $immon$.SW wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2024 3:53 amOne might think Doro's career peaked way before her SECOND solo album with Gene and MELONHEAD as producers.CanadianMetal wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2024 6:17 pm DORO - He produced her first solo album and was the main reason I even bought it .
Cool storyCanadianMetal wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2024 6:17 pm DORO - He produced her first solo album and was the main reason I even bought it .
I met and spoke her around 2005 and she said that of all the producers she had over the decades , she learned the most from Gene .
When I took a photo with her after our meeting she asked to see it and and after looking said we can do better and had me give the camera to my friend to take another . She was right the next photo was way better . I never had never heard of a big star wanting to see a photo before and make you retake a photo.
She was amazing in concert and it was almost impossible to get photo of her standing still as she was always in motion the whole concert with her super high energy. She gained way more respect from me after that day .
It's in Paul's book:Love_Industry wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2024 1:28 amDesmond didn't know he was gay at the time. He was in a relationship with Vidal and had "experimented" with dudes ala Ace or Peter. Unlike them, he later accepted that he was gay and eventually came out.risingfarce wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2024 1:08 amDesmond is gay.Stinky McFister wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2024 3:47 pm
I thought Desmond Child was gay and that was what attracted Paul
Paul is not gay.
I still think Paul wanted to bone Vidal and not one of the other girls in DC& Rouge, but feel free to prove me, Alex Bergdahl and Carl Linnaeus wrong if you know more. No detail is too insignificant in Kisstory
In 1973 and in 1996.
Listen to all of the other bands that i like.gtrjay wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2024 3:35 amHey question.risingfarce wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 12:17 amI'm sure you got your cold sore from Desmond.
I'm also sure you're the type to pass it around.
What are you going to do now that KISS is retired ?
You have to be the biggest ball washer of KIsS here and are beyond P13 level of Poison.
Did you cry on their last show?