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"First of all, I do need to say something too, is that the reason that this isn't happening is because there's three of us — myself, Scotti [Hill, SKID ROW guitarist] and Rachel [Bolan, SKID ROW bassist] — who've had conversations about this, and we've all been on the same page that we don't wanna go down that road again. We just — we don't.

"Rachel has taken a beating over this through the years," Sabo continued. "He's the one who's been blamed for this. 'Oh, it's Rachel's ego.' 'It's this and that.' No, that's a load of bullshit. That is not true. And I feel bad because he's really, really had to shoulder that blame and has never said anything derogatory or anything like that. But you know what? The truth of the matter is that Rachel, Scotti and myself have continually felt the same way, that we enjoy being happy in this band and we're really happy.

"It's been such a great experience for the last however, 35 years, everything, all the ups, all the downs, everything, but we just don't wanna revisit that particular aspect of our history," he explained. "I love the songs, love a lot of the memories, not fond of some of the memories, but just as individuals and as a collective, that's just how we feel. So this is not on Rachel. And this has nothing to do with anyone's ego or anything like that. So that's just gotta be clear. Again, for anyone to sit there and make assumptions that this is Rachel Bolan saying 'nope,' it's not. It's the three of us, and we've all collectively sat there and just said that we don't wanna do it. We just don't wanna do it. And we wish everybody all the best."

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Nice heading man, where did it exactly say the word “hate?”
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Ha, I hope this puts this whole thing to rest...if Bach calling them p*ssies wasn't enough.

As a fan of SR, i think it's stupid they could never get it to work..but damn, these guys have never wavered. I think there was one time where they considered it and Bach did something stupid within minutes.

Gotta respect the SR guys for choosing happiness over a payday.
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ParaDime77 wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 4:18 pm Nice heading man, where did it exactly say the word “hate?”
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With all the singers they go through, I am pretty sure its just not Sebastian
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tym wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 6:24 pm With all the singers they go through, I am pretty sure its just not Sebastian
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I heard they named Lizzy as the official singer…?
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DangerZone wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 6:58 pm I heard they named Lizzy as the official singer…?
I'm gonna assume you heard wrong. No way Lzzy is gonna be the official singer for SR when she has a way-more-successful band than current SR. Not even in Halestorm's downtime.
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Indy_Rob wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 7:12 pm
DangerZone wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 6:58 pm I heard they named Lizzy as the official singer…?
I'm gonna assume you heard wrong. No way Lzzy is gonna be the official singer for SR when she has a way-more-successful band than current SR. Not even in Halestorm's downtime.
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She made it pretty clear on Trunk today that she is very open to taking the spot.
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I will always respect them for this stance. I can't imagine being in the room with Sebastian Bach, let alone touring with him.

That said, Bach just released a damned good album on his own and I like it better than The Gang's All Here, even though that one's pretty good, too. And I'd love to hear a Lzzy-fronted Skid Row album. That would be badass.
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tylamonroe wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 8:47 pm She made it pretty clear on Trunk today that she is very open to taking the spot.
I think she's having an absolute blast and would love to do it.

When I watched the first show, I thought that her voice could never handle it long term. Maybe I'm wrong. I wouldn't mind finding out.
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Speaking of ex-Skid Row singers, Erik Grönwall got up on stage and sang Cherokee with Europe in Stockholm yesterday Thursday. Europe were great by the way, they are usually good live but this was the best of the 5 shows I saw in the last 10 years. Local band so they play here a lot :)
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Mojo wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 8:53 pm I will always respect them for this stance. I can't imagine being in the room with Sebastian Bach, let alone touring with him.

That said, Bach just released a damned good album on his own and I like it better than The Gang's All Here, even though that one's pretty good, too. And I'd love to hear a Lzzy-fronted Skid Row album. That would be badass.
To be fair, I have been in a room with Sebastian a few times, and on tour with him. He was a big spazzy kid, but no worse than a lot of other hyper rock dudes I have known, and just basically a sweet kid aside from the hyperactive thing.

The funny thing with Skid Row is, had those guys not owned the name, nobody would give even 1% of one shit about what they were doing...like, if they had to be : "The Szabo Bolan band" they'd be good for about 4 people per night. 3 outside of Jersey.

...but if Baz owned it, even if it was "Sebastain Bach's Skid Row" and he had random dudes like Stacy Blades or whatevs playing in the band, he could probably get 50% of eighties Skid Row crowds and all sorts of tours...I mean, he got GNR under just his own name.
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What about Affuso?
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Sleek wrote: Fri May 24, 2024 12:53 am To be fair, I have been in a room with Sebastian a few times, and on tour with him. He was a big spazzy kid, but no worse than a lot of other hyper rock dudes I have known, and just basically a sweet kid aside from the hyperactive thing.

The funny thing with Skid Row is, had those guys not owned the name, nobody would give even 1% of one shit about what they were doing...like, if they had to be : "The Szabo Bolan band" they'd be good for about 4 people per night. 3 outside of Jersey.

...but if Baz owned it, even if it was "Sebastain Bach's Skid Row" and he had random dudes like Stacy Blades or whatevs playing in the band, he could probably get 50% of eighties Skid Row crowds and all sorts of tours...I mean, he got GNR under just his own name.
Well, whether you got along with him or not, those guys don't and they've stuck by that, not allowing money to sway them. That's admirable. I have absolutely no doubt that they'd do better with Bach, and I'm sure they know that, too.
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So was the press release to let us know there will be no reunion?, or to confirm that Bolan is in fact, perceived as being a total prick?
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I don't think that anyone doesn't get that they don't like Bach. That's not the question tho. There are plenty of people that don't get along. Millions of marriages that stay together just for the kids. What is amazing is that the three SRs can't figure out how to do what millions of married people have figured out. And we aren't even talking about a marriage. Marriage is under the same roof for years, often close to 24/7. A SR reunion would be maybe 40-50 dates, on stage for 90 minutes. Separate hotels, separate transportation, separate dressing rooms, separate everything. I get that they have said no to Back 20,000 times. Why can't they come out and say the obvious. This has nothing to do with being happy. They are just spiteful douches.
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Wild Obsession wrote: Fri May 24, 2024 4:53 am So was the press release to let us know there will be no reunion?, or to confirm that Bolan is in fact, perceived as being a total prick?
This gave me a good laugh.
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AlexVonHaig wrote: Fri May 24, 2024 5:18 am I don't think that anyone doesn't get that they don't like Bach. That's not the question tho. There are plenty of people that don't get along. Millions of marriages that stay together just for the kids. What is amazing is that the three SRs can't figure out how to do what millions of married people have figured out. And we aren't even talking about a marriage. Marriage is under the same roof for years, often close to 24/7. A SR reunion would be maybe 40-50 dates, on stage for 90 minutes. Separate hotels, separate transportation, separate dressing rooms, separate everything. I get that they have said no to Back 20,000 times. Why can't they come out and say the obvious. This has nothing to do with being happy. They are just spiteful douches.
Except there aren't any kids involved, I mean, other than Sebastian. They've said 20,000 times that they'd rather be happy than do the "separate everything tour." They don't like the guy, it wouldn't make them happy to do it, so why do something you're not going to like? The only person it would make happy is Sebastian, and it's obvious to them the guy has never changed. They certainly haven't seen any maturity growth since 1997. Not everybody who breaks up needs a reunion.

That being said, I really enjoy Sebastian's new album, much more than the Skid Row one with Erik. Hopefully this interview by Snake doesn't push Sebastian off the deep end where he goes on rants during the rest of his tour. He needs to just focus on his own stuff and accept the Skid Row reunion isn't happening. He's been out of the band 27 years and he's only put out 4 full solo records, and his newest one is the best one. He should have been putting out a record every 2 years and working his ass off. Instead it's always felt like he's been waiting for the reunion call and living in the past.
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A few notes here...

The only way Lzzy does Skid Row long term is if Skid Row takes a backseat to Halestorm, and only plays dates when Halestorm is off. Being that Skid Row is a touring band, I don't see how they'd be able to function like that, they need that touring revenue. And I definitely have a hard time seeing a new Skid Row album with her singing. Did she do a good job on these fill in dates? Absolutely, but I dunno, this feels like when Anthrax tried to get Corey Taylor to sing for them, I just don't see how it would actually work.

Snake doing this interview is...weird. It's pretty clear now that Rob Affuso has no issues with Sebastian, so it's almost like he somehow felt the need to fully band their side together? I dunno, I'm just not sure what the point of making that statement was, unless he REALLY felt the need to defend Rachel, and I just don't know why he'd do that, unless Rachel has just been getting more crap than usual recently about the situation. Also, Rachel has ALWAYS seemed like a dick that just happened to be a decent songwriter, and at some point, over that 30+ years, perception is reality, no matter what Snake says.

I dunno, it almost seems like a false flag at this point, really trying to drive the point home that they don't like each other, to make it a bigger surprise when they do get back together next year, or something, but maybe my tinfoil needs tightening.
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Anthrax442 wrote: Fri May 24, 2024 6:47 am I dunno, I'm just not sure what the point of making that statement was
I’m gonna go out on a limb and say the point of the statement was that everyone in Skid Row refuses to work with Bach…. so sending a perfect email to Rachel is a waste of time.
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Rob Affuso doesn't hate him. I read he's the only member who voted to keep Sebastian in the band after the answering machine incident. The current Rob drummer might be cheaper. I wonder what his cut is from the casino shows. Maybe he's on salary for 40k per year.
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Bach is fuming right now...

You gotta believe, that when the guys hear Bach's recent rants, "They're on their 9th singer..." blah, blah, blah...

That just has to seal the deal that much more. It's just juvenile of him... he cannot keep his mouth shut.

I am starting to think Bach is bi-polar... there is def some switches that are off, and some are on that should not be.

One day he's borderline crying "I need to write them an email...." and the next he's talking shit on them, their singers, etc..

Bach is on tour the next 6 weeks, non-stop... there will be more from motor-mouth and I can't wait!

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It’s only matter of time before Buckcherry singer becomes number 10 blah blah blah

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MetalSludgeCEO wrote: Fri May 24, 2024 8:04 am

I am starting to think Bach is bi-polar... there is def some switches that are off, and some are on that should not be.
Not bi-polar, that untreated is what Britney looks like right now.

He most likely has High Functioning Asperger's. In children they appear as just very hyperactive and selfish. Most parents think the kid will just grow out of it..

In adults, especially if tons of booze and drugs are involved, you basically have Bach.

Quick Google says this.
"Asperger's in adults typically causes issues with communication, emotion regulation and interpretation, social interactions, and behavior. People who have Asperger's may also experience other conditions, such as depression, anxiety, or OCD"
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daveg wrote: Fri May 24, 2024 8:50 am
MetalSludgeCEO wrote: Fri May 24, 2024 8:04 am

I am starting to think Bach is bi-polar... there is def some switches that are off, and some are on that should not be.
Not bi-polar, that untreated is what Britney looks like right now.

He most likely has High Functioning Asperger's. In children they appear as just very hyperactive and selfish. Most parents think the kid will just grow out of it..

In adults, especially if tons of booze and drugs are involved, you basically have Bach.

Quick Google says this.
"Asperger's in adults typically causes issues with communication, emotion regulation and interpretation, social interactions, and behavior. People who have Asperger's may also experience other conditions, such as depression, anxiety, or OCD"
He's somewhere on the spectrum.
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ParaDime77 wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 4:18 pm Nice heading man, where did it exactly say the word “hate?”

"""""""""""""""Nice heading man, where did it exactly say the word “hate?”"""""""""""""


What's that old saying... "Read between the lines"

It's EXACTLY what he's saying!

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guess they hate money tooo


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