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The latest version of ’80s rockers Motley Crue headlined the Minnesota State Fair Grandstand on Thursday night and, judging by the empty seats, their appeal has become more … selective.

Some 8,769 fans did show up and paid as much as $207 a ticket for the utterly underwhelming 85-minute show. Just two years ago, the Crue played for 42,212 folks at U.S. Bank Stadium, although they were joined by Def Leppard, Poison and Joan Jett and the Blackhearts.

Maybe, just maybe, word has gotten out that lead singer Vince Neil can’t sing. They opened Thursday’s show with “Primal Scream,” which was really more of a Primal Squeal given Neil’s pinched, nasal vocals. This problem is not new for the band and their current approach seems to be to slather his voice in electronic effects and bury it in the mix. As for Neil himself, he skipped a lot of lyrics and often pointed his microphone to the crowd in an attempt to make them do his work for him.

Another possible stumbling block for longtime followers is the absence of guitarist and founding member Mick Mars. He has long struggled with the chronic form of arthritis ankylosing spondylitis and departed the group in October 2022 under mysterious circumstances. The rest of the band immediately announced former Marilyn Manson guitarist John 5 was taking his place. Mars has since sued his former bandmates, alleging they were trying to force him out.

His unique presence — Mars wore heavy makeup, dressed in black and rarely moved — was certainly missed Thursday night. John 5, who is nearly 20 years younger than Mars, darted back and forth across the stage, showing as much energy as bassist Nikki Sixx, the guy who seems most invested in keeping the Crue going.

Where Mars had a noisy, chaotic quality to his guitar sound, John 5 plays much cleaner, giving songs like “Too Fast for Love,” “Shout at the Devil” and “Looks That Kill” a different and less distinct vibe. His lengthy solo midway through the show proved to be less than thrilling. Still, John 5 did appear to have some actual chemistry with Sixx, something that was largely absent with Mars.

The set list focused on a dozen of the hits, a ridiculous medley of covers and a new one, “Dogs of War.” Given that the latter was just released, one might think the band would have written a song that the 2024 Neil could handle, but that was not the case.

Oh, and that medley — Gary Glitter’s “Rock and Roll, Part 2,” Brownsville Station’s “Smokin’ in the Boys Room” (Motley Crue’s 1985 cover gave them their breakthrough hit), the Beatles’ “Helter Skelter,” the Sex Pistols’ “Anarchy in the U.K.,” the Ramones’ “Blitzkrieg Bop” and the Beastie Boys’ “(You Gotta) Fight for Your Right (To Party)” — proved that not only can Neil not sing his own band’s songs, he’s even worse attempting other people’s hits. (Paul McCartney should sue Neil for what he did to “Helter Skelter.”)

Storms threatened the show and the Grandstand’s doors opened late due to lightning on site. But beyond a light sprinkle before Motley Crue, the weather held up, with a bit of a breeze that killed off any lingering humidity. Drummer Tommy Lee referenced it when he announced to the crowd that “Mother Nature brought on a wet T-shirt contest.” He then, as he does, asked the women in the crowd to show him their breasts, which some of them did, as well as enough men for Lee to joke about it.
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I’d hardly call that ‘brutal’. It’s what everyone’s been saying. Plain ole truth.
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Spongie wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 6:59 am I’d hardly call that ‘brutal’. It’s what everyone’s been saying. Plain ole truth.
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Their ability to draw nearly 9,000 people is the most impressive thing about this tired act. The review should surprise no one. You know exactly what you're getting at a Motley Crue show. Vince barely functions, the songs have the groove of a click track, and nobody looks like they're having any fun.

Why anyone would pay money and return for this shit is beyond me.
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SERIOUS QUESTION as our CEO would put it - do MC have a hardcore fanbase center like KissFaq or something where they get a review like this and end up pissing and moaning and denying what they read? ‘Vince can sing’, ‘Paul isn’t faking it’-style cult behavior from Crue fans?
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"The latest version of ’80s rockers Motley Crue headlined the Minnesota State Fair Grandstand on Thursday night and, judging by the empty seats, their appeal has become more … selective."

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SterileEyes1 wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 9:00 am SERIOUS QUESTION as our CEO would put it - do MC have a hardcore fanbase center like KissFaq or something where they get a review like this and end up pissing and moaning and denying what they read? ‘Vince can sing’, ‘Paul isn’t faking it’-style cult behavior from Crue fans?
I don't believe so. I think these are the peeps that still haven't decided on Trump.
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Motley has sucked live for over 20 years now. Why is this "news"?
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JizzySynatra wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 2:04 pm Motley has sucked live for over 20 years now. Why is this "news"?
More like 40 years. They’ve always been terrible
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It's Minnesota, where people have nothing better to do.

The State Fair is the last hurrah of the year before winter where people will be stuck inside until spring.
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Mister Freeze wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 8:08 am Their ability to draw nearly 9,000 people is the most impressive thing about this tired act. The review should surprise no one. You know exactly what you're getting at a Motley Crue show. Vince barely functions, the songs have the groove of a click track, and nobody looks like they're having any fun.

Why anyone would pay money and return for this shit is beyond me.
It’s a few thousand less than cover band Hairball drew a couple years back, at the same venue.
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cowpins wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 6:48 am (Paul McCartney should sue Neil for what he did to “Helter Skelter.”)
Couldn’t find a clip of the actual performance being reviewed but here’s a recent one :

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Ican'tfigureoutwhytheydon'thavethecliktrackplayingtheactualBPMs the songswere recordedby.. or maybetheyare but it seemsmuchslowerin theliveenvironment.. I always find wold sidejustdrags along.. maybe they should speed it up like, 4 BPMs and then see what happens.. but of course they won't. Mötley Crüe is Mötley Crüe and it's a delight when Vince trips on his own stage and eats it hard. Love it!
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Damn, that's "new tattoo" 2000 tour numbers. they've blown a lot of momentum. i'm seeng them this month but i even thought about if i should go or not, which i never thought about in the past, i would always go to motley the last 20 years
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SterileEyes1 wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 9:00 am SERIOUS QUESTION as our CEO would put it - do MC have a hardcore fanbase center like KissFaq or something where they get a review like this and end up pissing and moaning and denying what they read? ‘Vince can sing’, ‘Paul isn’t faking it’-style cult behavior from Crue fans?
I’m a huge Motley fan. Supported them through the lean years. I no longer go see them live. They are fucking atrocious …as is everything that they attempt to write or record nowadays.
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It reads like the reviewer wanted to say "Vince sounds like assballs, John and Nikki are trying too hard, Tommy is a doof, the crowd was lame, the performance sucked and it would have been better if it was rained out."

But he was nice about it and wrote the review he did, instead.
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I’d see Pearcy or Vince at a casino for free before seeing motley ever again. Even at the “final show” I almost walked out because they sounded so shitty.
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thunderdan wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 4:03 am Damn, that's "new tattoo" 2000 tour numbers. they've blown a lot of momentum. i'm seeng them this month but i even thought about if i should go or not, which i never thought about in the past, i would always go to motley the last 20 years
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I watched Motley at the North Dakota State fair last month in the crowd was 12,000. Felt it was a good show overall, bypassing Vince’s shortcomings out of the gate. He’s a shell of himself but he is still Vince Neil. The only songs that felt excessively live tracked was their latest single. The whole show is truly carried by Tommy Lee and the two great female dancers they have on the stage. Crowd ate that up like crazy.
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