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...on their 2024 bingo card?

Shit's getting just plain wacky now.
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I worked in the paging industry for several years and never had one that could explode. Sure would have come in handy. Complain about missing messages when you were probably banging your secretary in a parking garage? BOOM.
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Pagers? I had to ask my grandpa what those are.
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What if they get their hands on wireless butt plugs??

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Exploding beepers = total stroke of genius... Strategic warfare at its best!
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Back in the 1900's, we were fly.
I had a ladyfriend that would add "69" to her number when she paged me. This meant we were gonna knock boots.
This was prior to text paging, only numbers would display.
Sometime in the mid 90s I got a pager that would display text and news headlines.
Beepers!!!! https://youtu.be/MPZ3cO2zOdQ?si=jpYyuOkAUoUKH9mH

Reports today of Lebanon solar energy systems exploding. Walkie Talkies too.
This really is some James Bond shit.
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Zabooka wrote: Tue Sep 17, 2024 7:32 pm Pagers? I had to ask my grandpa what those are.
The big mystery is who made these things since no one has seen one in decades.

Actually when I bailed after the small telecommunications I worked for was sold 8 years ago, they called me a few weeks later. Apparently for all the painstaking detail they put in rolling our company into theirs, they had no idea they still had a few paging customers.
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A lot of people are into old tech.

Someone I know just had a landline installed in their classic car. You know, the kind with a cord!

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Lobo wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 9:42 am A lot of people are into old tech.

Someone I know just had a landline installed in their classic car. You know, the kind with a cord!
I read an old John Lee Hooker interview when he said he had one in his Cadillac. Says it was too expensive to use but when he drove by pretty ladies he would pick it up and put it to his ear. The same company I worked for did cell phones before it went mass market and I was cleaning out some boxes with old invoices, they probably weren't much cheaper than the car.
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This story is crazy! So how long have the Israelis been sitting on this waiting for the day? How were they sure that only the Hamasians and Hezzballians would be the ones who ended up with these bombs in waiting? It couldn't have been too long because it seems like sooner or later somebody would open theirs up and see that there were some "unusual" things inside that were out of place. How in the hell could they even fit enough explosive in there to not make the unit unusually large, yet still pack enough punch to do significant damage?

Like a fellow poster (and I'm sure a good man) above posted, this really is some James Bond type of shit. Also, I wonder if the warrantee covered that type of an event?
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Ryan81 wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 11:17 am This story is crazy! So how long have the Israelis been sitting on this waiting for the day? How were they sure that only the Hamasians and Hezzballians would be the ones who ended up with these bombs in waiting? It couldn't have been too long because it seems like sooner or later somebody would open theirs up and see that there were some "unusual" things inside that were out of place. How in the hell could they even fit enough explosive in there to not make the unit unusually large, yet still pack enough punch to do significant damage?
There were a few theories I saw floated during a news segment yesterday:

- One was that they compromised the manufacturer and rigged up the devices at their assembly facility.

- Another was that the devices were intercepted at some point during the delivery process from the manufacturer to the customer (some law enforcement agencies have done similar to criminals, placing listening devices or something that would copy key strokes in a computer or copy everything from the computer making all that information available to the agency that planted it).

- An expert in the story said 3 grams of plastic explosives could fit into one of the beepers with a signal sent to the battery to detonate it.

- The last theory is a little more far fetched but just imagine this: That they have figured out a way to make the battery itself explode simply by sending it a signal, the battery heats up rapidly and explodes.

This are all just possibilities that I saw floated in a news story.
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Lobo wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 11:44 am There were a few theories I saw floated during a news segment yesterday:

- One was that they compromised the manufacturer and rigged up the devices at their assembly facility.

- Another was that the devices were intercepted at some point during the delivery process from the manufacturer to the customer (some law enforcement agencies have done similar to criminals, placing listening devices or something that would copy key strokes in a computer or copy everything from the computer making all that information available to the agency that planted it).

- An expert in the story said 3 grams of plastic explosives could fit into one of the beepers with a signal sent to the battery to detonate it.

- The last theory is a little more far fetched but just imagine this: That they have figured out a way to make the battery itself explode simply by sending it a signal, the battery heats up rapidly and explodes.

This are all just possibilities that I saw floated in a news story.
Most likely it was a 'man in the middle' interception of the shipped goods where they put the explosive in and then sent them on their merry way.

It is possible to short circuit the battery, but the the general consensus is that the explosion level is not consistent with that.

Check this out and comments >
https://arstechnica.com/security/2024/0 ... n-lebanon/
https://arstechnica.com/security/2024/0 ... er-attack/
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Lobo wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 11:44 am
Ryan81 wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 11:17 am This story is crazy! So how long have the Israelis been sitting on this waiting for the day? How were they sure that only the Hamasians and Hezzballians would be the ones who ended up with these bombs in waiting? It couldn't have been too long because it seems like sooner or later somebody would open theirs up and see that there were some "unusual" things inside that were out of place. How in the hell could they even fit enough explosive in there to not make the unit unusually large, yet still pack enough punch to do significant damage?
There were a few theories I saw floated during a news segment yesterday:

- One was that they compromised the manufacturer and rigged up the devices at their assembly facility.

- Another was that the devices were intercepted at some point during the delivery process from the manufacturer to the customer (some law enforcement agencies have done similar to criminals, placing listening devices or something that would copy key strokes in a computer or copy everything from the computer making all that information available to the agency that planted it).

- An expert in the story said 3 grams of plastic explosives could fit into one of the beepers with a signal sent to the battery to detonate it.

- The last theory is a little more far fetched but just imagine this: That they have figured out a way to make the battery itself explode simply by sending it a signal, the battery heats up rapidly and explodes.

This are all just possibilities that I saw floated in a news story.
I just heard on the radio that your last idea was probably how they did it. They likely sent out a malware code that overheated the battery. Apparently that has been done before back when lithium ion batteries were less stable than they are now...well maybe they aren't much more stable now from the sounds of it.

I just thought of something...it might be something else because how did they get the walkie talkies to explode the following day? Walkie talkies don't recieve messages in computer code that could cause such a malfunction. Do they? I'd better sit down to take this all in.
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All the pagers I ever sent out used AA or AAA batteries. The Apollo Gold looks like it just apes old Motorola designs. Motorola stopped manufacturing pagers around 1999/2000. Not sure if they still licensed out the tech or designs or just threw it out there.

Around that time we still had a large medical clientele dependent on them and we were having trouble securing inventory. Unless I am missing something here, I never thought I would have to think about this again.
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I've always been fascinated by The Mossad and how patient they are with revenge, I'm assuming this was the work of them? Shit it took them like 30 years to kill 99% of the terrorists from the 72 Olympics Attack but I believe they killed all but one.
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Earl Skakel wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 3:08 am I've always been fascinated by The Mossad and how patient they are with revenge, I'm assuming this was the work of them? Shit it took them like 30 years to kill 99% of the terrorists from the 72 Olympics Attack but I believe they killed all but one.
Today they killed some dude they've been hunting since 1983! So 41 years ago!

https://www.lefigaro.fr/international/l ... e-20240920
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Psychobolia.com wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 7:28 am
Earl Skakel wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 3:08 am I've always been fascinated by The Mossad and how patient they are with revenge, I'm assuming this was the work of them? Shit it took them like 30 years to kill 99% of the terrorists from the 72 Olympics Attack but I believe they killed all but one.
Today they killed some dude they've been hunting since 1983! So 41 years ago!

https://www.lefigaro.fr/international/l ... e-20240920
(article in frog, sorry)
That's nuts, what's that story? Even in the 72 Olympics case they killed the wrong guy as the guy they killed just looked like the mastermind and there response after finding out the misidentification was essentially "oh well!"
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We know Hamas leaders like to hang around in Qatar. So why haven't Mossad taken them out? On Bibi's orders? Don't have the cojones?
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Earl Skakel wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 12:46 pm
Psychobolia.com wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 7:28 am
Earl Skakel wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 3:08 am I've always been fascinated by The Mossad and how patient they are with revenge, I'm assuming this was the work of them? Shit it took them like 30 years to kill 99% of the terrorists from the 72 Olympics Attack but I believe they killed all but one.
Today they killed some dude they've been hunting since 1983! So 41 years ago!

https://www.lefigaro.fr/international/l ... e-20240920
(article in frog, sorry)
That's nuts, what's that story? Even in the 72 Olympics case they killed the wrong guy as the guy they killed just looked like the mastermind and there response after finding out the misidentification was essentially "oh well!"
Here's a brief English version of today's story:
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-ea ... 024-09-20/
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Psychobolia.com wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 2:24 pm
Earl Skakel wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 12:46 pm
Psychobolia.com wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 7:28 am

Today they killed some dude they've been hunting since 1983! So 41 years ago!

https://www.lefigaro.fr/international/l ... e-20240920
(article in frog, sorry)
That's nuts, what's that story? Even in the 72 Olympics case they killed the wrong guy as the guy they killed just looked like the mastermind and there response after finding out the misidentification was essentially "oh well!"
Here's a brief English version of today's story:
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-ea ... 024-09-20/
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EzyRider wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 3:23 pm
Lobo wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 11:44 am There were a few theories I saw floated during a news segment yesterday:

- One was that they compromised the manufacturer and rigged up the devices at their assembly facility.

- Another was that the devices were intercepted at some point during the delivery process from the manufacturer to the customer (some law enforcement agencies have done similar to criminals, placing listening devices or something that would copy key strokes in a computer or copy everything from the computer making all that information available to the agency that planted it).

- An expert in the story said 3 grams of plastic explosives could fit into one of the beepers with a signal sent to the battery to detonate it.

- The last theory is a little more far fetched but just imagine this: That they have figured out a way to make the battery itself explode simply by sending it a signal, the battery heats up rapidly and explodes.

This are all just possibilities that I saw floated in a news story.
Most likely it was a 'man in the middle' interception of the shipped goods where they put the explosive in and then sent them on their merry way.

It is possible to short circuit the battery, but the the general consensus is that the explosion level is not consistent with that.

Check this out and comments >
https://arstechnica.com/security/2024/0 ... n-lebanon/
https://arstechnica.com/security/2024/0 ... er-attack/
One of the points missing from the above is that Mossad must either have an agent at a senior level in Hezbollah who knew about (and maybe was involved in) ordering the new pagers recently, or Hez's comms system is compromised despite their efforts to keep it low-tech precisely to avoid that situation.

Given Mossad's willingness to play a long game, as mentioned above, I wouldn't even be surprised if they set up the pager factory in Hungary, or bought into it via a front company.
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