Paul Stanley photoshops Tommy Shaw out of photo in his book

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Why?
Better singer, better looking?
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VinnieVincentsVag wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2024 4:38 pm Why?
Better singer, better looking?
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C'mon, Paul. Stand tall, don't think small.
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What a little bitch!

I could possibly understand if it was some random non-famous person, but what a fucking tool. He's prolly thinking "if Annie and Andy and Frank would hang out with an uncool corporate rocker like Tommy, maybe they would think I was an uncool corporate rocker!!
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Brainy Lane wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2024 4:41 pm
VinnieVincentsVag wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2024 4:38 pm Why?
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This ^ x 2
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Paul actually looks like he was trying to get into the real picture........ :roll: , and not actually hanging out with the others.
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Wild Obsession wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 8:45 am Paul actually looks like he was trying to get into the real picture........ :roll: , and not actually hanging out with the others.
It doesn't look like ANY of them are actually together. You sure they're not in line at the Olive Garden or something? Or maybe a gender-neutral bathroom?
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That's weird? I have no idea how this shit works but do you have to get permission to include pictures of people to use in your book? Would that be the case?
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Tommy (or his people) would no way object to the pic being used so that's not it. My guess is that pic Tommy is clearly the focal point. Like the lead singer in a band photo, in the middle, blonde and out front. Removing him makes Paul the focal point based on his bright clothes. Plus, the image now fits better. I don't disagree with the decision.


(or Tommy fucked Paul's date an hour earlier)
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I like that the Photoshop hack left in whatever those stripes are between Lennox's and Shaw's heads and made it seem like a pattern on Zappa's shirt instead
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looks to me like Annie & Tommy were together and Andy said ‘oh I love you Annie Lennox let’s take a photo!’

Not sure how Zappa & Stanley fit in, but Paul looks like the odd man out
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That's actually classic Sludge that should be a story on the main site.
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Has Shaw not acknowledged/addressed this nonsense yet?!

I'd be milking this story for all it's worth! Paul comes across as an insecure POS for pulling this BS!
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BernieTaupson wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2024 4:35 pm Image

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Paul Stanley Backstage Pass book 2019

This photo tells me that Paul thinks he's above Tommy Shaw and considers himself more on a "peer" level with the others or at the very least wanted to give the reader the impression that Warhol, Lennox and Zappa actually respected him.
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BernieTaupson wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 4:26 pm The plot thickens. Photo isn’t even from Studio 54.
Thanks, it didn't make sense to me when I first saw it. It screams mid-80s to me.

That both doesn't look like Studio 54 and Lennox was an unknown singer in Scotland when it was open.
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aznsquirt wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 7:47 pm
BernieTaupson wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 4:26 pm The plot thickens. Photo isn’t even from Studio 54.
Thanks, it didn't make sense to me when I first saw it. It screams mid-80s to me.

That both doesn't look like Studio 54 and Lennox was an unknown singer in Scotland when it was open.
Yeah, Shaw looks like Mr Roboto era, and Paul is LIU or Animalize.
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aznsquirt wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 7:47 pm
BernieTaupson wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 4:26 pm The plot thickens. Photo isn’t even from Studio 54.
Thanks, it didn't make sense to me when I first saw it. It screams mid-80s to me.

That both doesn't look like Studio 54 and Lennox was an unknown singer in Scotland when it was open.
Wikipedia has Studio 54 as open - with breaks - from 1977 to 1989. Lennox toured and released three albums with The Tourists in 79-80 so at least somewhat known during peak Studio 54, and made it big with Eurythmics in 83. Still, I agree that it looks like 83-84 Paul there and not 79-80 when he hung out at Studio 54.
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BernieTaupson wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 4:26 pm The plot thickens. Photo isn’t even from Studio 54.
The best thing about being a Kisstard is that there's always another Kisstard with knowledge of the most obscure details of the band's history.
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ALMOSTsaved wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 5:20 pm
BernieTaupson wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2024 4:35 pm Image

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Paul Stanley Backstage Pass book 2019

This photo tells me that Paul thinks he's above Tommy Shaw and considers himself more on a "peer" level with the others or at the very least wanted to give the reader the impression that Warhol, Lennox and Zappa actually respected him.
Yep, Paul wants to be associated with the cool people and not been seen with the non cool people.
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Love_Industry wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 11:10 pm
aznsquirt wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 7:47 pm
BernieTaupson wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 4:26 pm The plot thickens. Photo isn’t even from Studio 54.
Thanks, it didn't make sense to me when I first saw it. It screams mid-80s to me.

That both doesn't look like Studio 54 and Lennox was an unknown singer in Scotland when it was open.
Wikipedia has Studio 54 as open - with breaks - from 1977 to 1989. Lennox toured and released three albums with The Tourists in 79-80 so at least somewhat known during peak Studio 54, and made it big with Eurythmics in 83. Still, I agree that it looks like 83-84 Paul there and not 79-80 when he hung out at Studio 54.
I was basing it on any "Studio 54" picture being from the heyday that ended early 1980 IIRC. I'm not sure Lennox was famous enough prior to the Eurythmics to end up in a pic like that. It looks like the pic is confirmed to be about 1985 regardless.
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BernieTaupson wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 3:39 am Yeah it’s obviously Asylum era.

There are other photos of Paul at Studio 54. He had a beard, which dates them to the Unmasked recording sessions.
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cowpins wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 4:27 am
BernieTaupson wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 3:39 am Yeah it’s obviously Asylum era.

There are other photos of Paul at Studio 54. He had a beard, which dates them to the Unmasked recording sessions.
With him? :D :D :D
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That's a weird thing for Paul to have done. Very Stalinesque.
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Hahahah, jealous much Paula? "Waaaah Tommy looks better than me! Wait.....I can have someone photshop him out!"
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The pictures are gone, and I can't find anything in a google search. Now I'm interested in getting the book just to see them.

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EzyRider wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 8:03 am The pictures are gone, and I can't find anything in a google search. Now I'm interested in getting the book just to see them.
What do you mean, they're gone? They're still up above. Do you mean posted somewhere?
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I see them now! Before I just got 'image' in text.

This is different location/different computer though.

I have no idea why or how this would happen, but extremely happy I don't have to buy the book :twisted:

This is waaay too funny, Tommy is cooler than Warhol and Zappa in my book, and Annie outshines them all!!
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Maybe Tommy Shaw Inc. wouldn't sign off on The Star Child profiting off his likeness. Has anyone asked Tommy Shaw about it?
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VinceVanLane wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 11:33 am That's actually classic Sludge that should be a story on the main site.

This. Call out Stanley. Make sure Kissfaq picks it up.
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tooth wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:33 am Maybe Tommy Shaw Inc. wouldn't sign off on The Star Child profiting off his likeness. Has anyone asked Tommy Shaw about it?
As long as the image wasn't the cover, there would be no need to get anyone's sign off.
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