KISS - Take It Off

[BernieTaupson]

Never get seriously involved with someone who has less to lose than you.

[Anthrax442]

That was Bruce's cd. He played almost all of the guitars on the cd. He played bass guitar on almost all of Paul's songs.


What Paul song did Gene play bass on? I doubt there is one.

Maybe I'm in the minority here, but after listening to Revenge the other day, I listened to Carnival of Souls (well, the first half, that's all I had time for in the car) for the first time in 15-20 years probably (certainly long enough to forget every song on it besides Jungle), and I enjoyed it a lot.

It's definitely not your standard KISS record, but two things stuck out: that it was very much the same formula that all the other 80s acts, where they had tried to "grunge" up their sound, so it was nice to hear them try to do something different, and that, I really think Paul is my least favorite member of the band. The stuff that's just Gene with guitar and drums, was a lot more pleasing and had way more groove to it than whatever Paul happened to be screeching about.

[HueyRamone]

Paul had marriage issues with his first wife before they were even married. What a cunt she was. Paul sure knows how to pick em. Vinnie and Mark were worse.

Even in Pauls own book he said something like "It was time for me to be married. So I put the word out to fix me up with the most eligible bachelorettes." What the fuck can you expect with an attitude like that but a gold digger.

Sounds like an arrangement a gay man would make.

He learned his lesson. His new beard seems to know the score.

[BernieTaupson]

It sounds nothing like dipshit cockrock KISStard KISS, but there’s some interesting stuff on COS. It Never Goes Away has some great vocals, Seduction of the Innocent has that cool eastern guitar from Spruce, In The Mirror is a good rock song, I Will Be There is pretty good. In My Head and Hate are fucking horrible. Jungle is good.

[Hatchets Molly]

I had a boot of CoS a year before it was released and found it interesting. I think Jungle is a great song that I still like. For some reason, I kinda like Childhood's End and I Confess.

[Mister Freeze]

When Motley Crue has a song about strip clubs, it's pretty obvious they spend time in those places.

When Paul Stanley sings about strippers, he sounds like a gay photographer trying to get his models in place.

[pieceofme]

When Motley Crue has a song about strip clubs, it's pretty obvious they spend time in those places.

When Paul Stanley sings about strippers, he sounds like a gay photographer trying to get his models in place.

[Jason Jennifer Leigh]

Now I have to give COS a listen, it’s been about 10 years.

[StateOfShock]

Revenge gets praise because of the solid production and arrangements, but when it comes to the songs, even Hot in the Shade had better stuff.

No way.

[Tommy2Tone84]

Great melodic, heavy rock song. "Revenge" took the place of "Destroyer" as my favorite KISS lp. Saw the club tour and arena tour and both were great. That was the tightest KISS lineup. Everyone great on their instruments. Paul's vocals were excellent on the lp and in concert.

Nothing but historical revision and delusions of grandeur by a small percentage of fans. Outside of Unholy, which Gene couldn’t sing live, it’s typical, piss poor songwriting with cheeseball, cliche lyrics. The only thing the lp has going for it is a sober Bob Ezrin.

The tour was the second worst tour from 1983-1993. Second only to the 10th Anniversary. Revenge only went 77 shows compared to Hot In The Shade’s 123 shows, Crazy Night’s 129, Animalize’s 119. Both Lick It Up and Asylum had 94 and 91, respectively. That Revenge lineup went from playing mostly empty arenas to playing conference rooms in Holiday Inns.

Singer’s playing, while technical at times, was always flat, limp, and just plain blah. The longer he was in the band the worse he got and he wasn’t all that great to begin with.

[risingfarce]

Great melodic, heavy rock song. "Revenge" took the place of "Destroyer" as my favorite KISS lp. Saw the club tour and arena tour and both were great. That was the tightest KISS lineup. Everyone great on their instruments. Paul's vocals were excellent on the lp and in concert.

Nothing but historical revision and delusions of grandeur by a small percentage of fans. Outside of Unholy, which Gene couldn’t sing live, it’s typical, piss poor songwriting with cheeseball, cliche lyrics. The only thing the lp has going for it is a sober Bob Ezrin.

The tour was the second worst tour from 1983-1993. Second only to the 10th Anniversary. Revenge only went 77 shows compared to Hot In The Shade’s 123 shows, Crazy Night’s 129, Animalize’s 119. Both Lick It Up and Asylum had 94 and 91, respectively. That Revenge lineup went from playing mostly empty arenas to playing conference rooms in Holiday Inns.

Singer’s playing, while technical at times, was always flat, limp, and just plain blah. The longer he was in the band the worse he got and he wasn’t all that great to begin with.

KISS (Paul/Gene/Bruce/Eric Singer) played for the people who attended. Whether the venue was sold out or half-filled, they showed up and played for the people who spent their time and money to go see them. Tightest KISS lineup and every member giving their A game.

Criss and Carr (whom I like) could never touch Singer. Plus, Singer was the best drumming singer. Best voice of the three drummers and second to Paul (in Paul's prime). Since Paul started having health issues with his vocal cords, Eric became KISS' best vocalist.

I saw the "Revenge" club and arena tours. Sounds like you saw neither. I also attended the official KISS Konvention. Another great thing they did. Sounds like you didn't go to that either.

You sound like you jumped on the bandwagon in 1996. Funny how KISS, with the original lineup, pretty much crashed and burned (cd struggled to reach gold and the tour was cut short) during the "Psycho Circus" era. All of the people who came out of the woodwork on the "Alive/Worldwide" tour went back into hiding during the PC era. Reason? KISS sucked. That is, their drummer and lead guitarist sucked. Gene and Ace (full blown alcoholic and drug addict) were fat and disinterested. Paul was the only one who showed up night after night and put effort into the shows. Same goes for the "Farewell" tour.

At KISS "Unplugged" you had a top-rated drummer stage left and a hack stage right. The hack couldn't even play the simple beat in "2000 Man". Paul had to get him in time.

[Mister Freeze]

Eric Singer was on fire during Paul Stanley's '89 solo tour.

We never saw that drummer again.

[DangerZone]

Great melodic, heavy rock song. "Revenge" took the place of "Destroyer" as my favorite KISS lp. Saw the club tour and arena tour and both were great. That was the tightest KISS lineup. Everyone great on their instruments. Paul's vocals were excellent on the lp and in concert.

Nothing but historical revision and delusions of grandeur by a small percentage of fans. Outside of Unholy, which Gene couldn’t sing live, it’s typical, piss poor songwriting with cheeseball, cliche lyrics. The only thing the lp has going for it is a sober Bob Ezrin.

The tour was the second worst tour from 1983-1993. Second only to the 10th Anniversary. Revenge only went 77 shows compared to Hot In The Shade’s 123 shows, Crazy Night’s 129, Animalize’s 119. Both Lick It Up and Asylum had 94 and 91, respectively. That Revenge lineup went from playing mostly empty arenas to playing conference rooms in Holiday Inns.

Singer’s playing, while technical at times, was always flat, limp, and just plain blah. The longer he was in the band the worse he got and he wasn’t all that great to begin with.

KISS (Paul/Gene/Bruce/Eric Singer) played for the people who attended. Whether the venue was sold out or half-filled, they showed up and played for the people who spent their time and money to go see them. Tightest KISS lineup and every member giving their A game.

Criss and Carr (whom I like) could never touch Singer. Plus, Singer was the best drumming singer. Best voice of the three drummers and second to Paul (in Paul's prime). Since Paul started having health issues with his vocal cords, Eric became KISS' best vocalist.

I saw the "Revenge" club and arena tours. Sounds like you saw neither. I also attended the official KISS Konvention. Another great thing they did. Sounds like you didn't go to that either.

You sound like you jumped on the bandwagon in 1996. Funny how KISS, with the original lineup, pretty much crashed and burned (cd struggled to reach gold and the tour was cut short) during the "Psycho Circus" era. All of the people who came out of the woodwork on the "Alive/Worldwide" tour went back into hiding during the PC era. Reason? KISS sucked. That is, their drummer and lead guitarist sucked. Gene and Ace (full blown alcoholic and drug addict) were fat and disinterested. Paul was the only one who showed up night after night and put effort into the shows. Same goes for the "Farewell" tour.

At KISS "Unplugged" you had a top-rated drummer stage left and a hack stage right. The hack couldn't even play the simple beat in "2000 Man". Paul had to get him in time.

Peter was basically Otis Redding.
Not only did he write KISS’ biggest hit but got them back to packed houses on the reunion tour

[risingfarce]

Eric Singer was on fire during Paul Stanley's '89 solo tour.

We never saw that drummer again.

I saw that drummer at the "Revenge" club tour show, "Revenge" arena show, and the KISS Konvention show.

[risingfarce]

Nothing but historical revision and delusions of grandeur by a small percentage of fans. Outside of Unholy, which Gene couldn’t sing live, it’s typical, piss poor songwriting with cheeseball, cliche lyrics. The only thing the lp has going for it is a sober Bob Ezrin.

The tour was the second worst tour from 1983-1993. Second only to the 10th Anniversary. Revenge only went 77 shows compared to Hot In The Shade’s 123 shows, Crazy Night’s 129, Animalize’s 119. Both Lick It Up and Asylum had 94 and 91, respectively. That Revenge lineup went from playing mostly empty arenas to playing conference rooms in Holiday Inns.

Singer’s playing, while technical at times, was always flat, limp, and just plain blah. The longer he was in the band the worse he got and he wasn’t all that great to begin with.

KISS (Paul/Gene/Bruce/Eric Singer) played for the people who attended. Whether the venue was sold out or half-filled, they showed up and played for the people who spent their time and money to go see them. Tightest KISS lineup and every member giving their A game.

Criss and Carr (whom I like) could never touch Singer. Plus, Singer was the best drumming singer. Best voice of the three drummers and second to Paul (in Paul's prime). Since Paul started having health issues with his vocal cords, Eric became KISS' best vocalist.

I saw the "Revenge" club and arena tours. Sounds like you saw neither. I also attended the official KISS Konvention. Another great thing they did. Sounds like you didn't go to that either.

You sound like you jumped on the bandwagon in 1996. Funny how KISS, with the original lineup, pretty much crashed and burned (cd struggled to reach gold and the tour was cut short) during the "Psycho Circus" era. All of the people who came out of the woodwork on the "Alive/Worldwide" tour went back into hiding during the PC era. Reason? KISS sucked. That is, their drummer and lead guitarist sucked. Gene and Ace (full blown alcoholic and drug addict) were fat and disinterested. Paul was the only one who showed up night after night and put effort into the shows. Same goes for the "Farewell" tour.

At KISS "Unplugged" you had a top-rated drummer stage left and a hack stage right. The hack couldn't even play the simple beat in "2000 Man". Paul had to get him in time.

Peter was basically Otis Redding.
Not only did he write KISS’ biggest hit but got them back to packed houses on the reunion tour

When did Peter write "I Was Made For Lovin' You"?

[NeonKnite]

When did Peter write "I Was Made For Lovin' You"?

KISS's highest-charting single on the Billboard charts is "Beth," which reached #7 in the US in 1976 from their album Destroyer.

That said, "Rock and Roll All Nite" is their signature song.

[HueyRamone]

When did Peter write "I Was Made For Lovin' You"?

KISS's highest-charting single on the Billboard charts is "Beth," which reached #7 in the US in 1976 from their album Destroyer.

Dont forget, Peter won a people's choice award for that song. Peter = MVP.

[pieceofme]

When did Peter write "I Was Made For Lovin' You"?

KISS's highest-charting single on the Billboard charts is "Beth," which reached #7 in the US in 1976 from their album Destroyer.

Dont forget, Peter won a people's choice award for that song. Peter = MVP.

Everyone knows it ain't KISS without Peter Criss!

[risingfarce]

When did Peter write "I Was Made For Lovin' You"?

KISS's highest-charting single on the Billboard charts is "Beth," which reached #7 in the US in 1976 from their album Destroyer.

That said, "Rock and Roll All Nite" is their signature song.

Doesn't matter that "Beth" charted the highest out of all of their singles. "Beth" didn't sell as many copies as "I Was Made For Lovin' You". "IWMFLY" was an international hit, "Beth" was not. Both singles earned RIAA gold single awards for selling 1 million copies in the U.S. That's with "IWMFLY" reaching number 11 on the Billboard 200 chart.

"RARAN" is their signature song in North America. Around the world, their signature song is "IWMFLY".

[risingfarce]

When did Peter write "I Was Made For Lovin' You"?

KISS's highest-charting single on the Billboard charts is "Beth," which reached #7 in the US in 1976 from their album Destroyer.

Dont forget, Peter won a people's choice award for that song. Peter = MVP.

Tied with "Disco Duck".

Bob Ezrin and Stan Penridge are the MVPs. Peter didn't create the song.

[risingfarce]

KISS's highest-charting single on the Billboard charts is "Beth," which reached #7 in the US in 1976 from their album Destroyer.

Dont forget, Peter won a people's choice award for that song. Peter = MVP.

Everyone knows it ain't KISS without Peter Criss!

KISS did excellent without him.

Singer > Carr > Criss (far in last place)

[NeonKnite]

Doesn't matter that "Beth" charted the highest out of all of their singles. "Beth" didn't sell as many copies as "I Was Made For Lovin' You". "IWMFLY" was an international hit, "Beth" was not. Both singles earned RIAA gold single awards for selling 1 million copies in the U.S. That's with "IWMFLY" reaching number 11 on the Billboard 200 chart.

"RARAN" is their signature song in North America. Around the world, their signature song is "IWMFLY".

Everyone knows the US Charts are the barometer of success.

You can try to spin any narrative you want, but that doesn't change the facts.

[HueyRamone]

KISS's highest-charting single on the Billboard charts is "Beth," which reached #7 in the US in 1976 from their album Destroyer.

Dont forget, Peter won a people's choice award for that song. Peter = MVP.

Everyone knows it ain't KISS without Peter Criss!

Yep! If it aint got the Criss then it aint the real KISS!
If they dont got the (real) Cat, you sure know they aint all that!
You want the KISS who are boring slugs, or the one with the guys who drink and do drugs?
Paul 78 is full of pablum, Ace had the best solo album!
Ace's guitar playing is lit, KISS had to open for Motley Shit!
Since 1988 Paul hasnt had his own hair, Dont like it? Dont care!

[endstand]

Doesn't matter that "Beth" charted the highest out of all of their singles. "Beth" didn't sell as many copies as "I Was Made For Lovin' You". "IWMFLY" was an international hit, "Beth" was not. Both singles earned RIAA gold single awards for selling 1 million copies in the U.S. That's with "IWMFLY" reaching number 11 on the Billboard 200 chart.

"RARAN" is their signature song in North America. Around the world, their signature song is "IWMFLY".

Everyone knows the US Charts are the barometer of success.

You can try to spin any narrative you want, but that doesn't change the facts.

I Was Made for Lovin’ You is KISS’ only proper global hit song.

[DangerZone]

Dont forget, Peter won a people's choice award for that song. Peter = MVP.

Everyone knows it ain't KISS without Peter Criss!

KISS did excellent without him.

Singer > Carr > Criss (far in last place)

we’re not even getting in to the swagger aspect.
Criss had the sex appeal.
Have you ever been Kissed?

[BernieTaupson]

And his solo album was up for a Grammy!

Without those taleeesmens, no powers. They’re just ordinary humin bein’s!

That little ass-licker used to bring me my spaghetti now he’s wearing the boots of a legend!!

[risingfarce]

Doesn't matter that "Beth" charted the highest out of all of their singles. "Beth" didn't sell as many copies as "I Was Made For Lovin' You". "IWMFLY" was an international hit, "Beth" was not. Both singles earned RIAA gold single awards for selling 1 million copies in the U.S. That's with "IWMFLY" reaching number 11 on the Billboard 200 chart.

"RARAN" is their signature song in North America. Around the world, their signature song is "IWMFLY".

Everyone knows the US Charts are the barometer of success.

You can try to spin any narrative you want, but that doesn't change the facts.

"IWMFLY" sold more copies than "Beth". "IWMFLY" is KISS' biggest selling single.

https://open.spotify.com/artist/07XSN3sPlIlB2L2XNcTwJw

"IWMFLY" earned the award for over 1 billion listens.


https://www.kissfaq.com/charts/acharts.php

"Love Gun" - Billboard 200 lp chart = #4

"Sonic Boom" - Billboard 200 lp chart = #2

"Monster" - Billboard 200 lp chart = #3

Tell me which lp of the three sold the most copies.

[risingfarce]

Dont forget, Peter won a people's choice award for that song. Peter = MVP.

Everyone knows it ain't KISS without Peter Criss!

Yep! If it aint got the Criss then it aint the real KISS!
If they dont got the (real) Cat, you sure know they aint all that!
You want the KISS who are boring slugs, or the one with the guys who drink and do drugs?
Paul 78 is full of pablum, Ace had the best solo album!
Ace's guitar playing is lit, KISS had to open for Motley Shit!
Since 1988 Paul hasnt had his own hair, Dont like it? Dont care!

That didn't happen. Motley Shit open for them on two different tours.

[risingfarce]

Everyone knows it ain't KISS without Peter Criss!

KISS did excellent without him.

Singer > Carr > Criss (far in last place)

we’re not even getting in to the swagger aspect.
Criss had the sex appeal.
Have you ever been Kissed?

Swagger. LOL

Next, you'll be telling me Peter Criss was a jazz drummer.

[NeonKnite]

KISS did excellent without him.

Singer > Carr > Criss (far in last place)

Actually, they didn't do all that well without him. As evidenced by the fact that he was brought back multiple times and they spent the last 20 years aping his era while telling their drummer to play more like him and impersonate him.

Singer is by far the worst of the the three. Drum machines have more personality in their playing. Carr was a great power drummer and the far more interesting of the two Erics, but Peter gave Kiss their sound and they never came close to sounding as good or as unique without him.

The original Kiss is a perfect example of the whole is greater than the sum of the parts.