CHANGES or NOT ... Which Rock Stars Changed for the Better, Who stayed the Same & Who is Worse than Ever?

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Worse than ever is easy........ SEBITCHIAN!
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Better: Stevie Rachelle when he went from wannabe rock star to message board owner.
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Who's died this year? Brian Wilson, Sly Stone, RIck Derringer. Can't get much worse than being dead.
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Axl, Lars, and Zakk all changed for the better.

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Black Stuff wrote: Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:29 am Worse than ever is easy........ SEBITCHIAN!
Back in the day the guy wore an "Aids kills f*gs dead" shirt and hit a young girl in the face with a glass bottle. Now, other than running his mouth at his old bandmates and Mango Mussolini, he doesn't seem that bad anymore. Still sounds decent live too, unlike most of his contemporaries
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Robert Plant has aged gracefully while resisting the urge to whore out his legacy.
veritas wrote: Wed May 21, 2025 3:37 pm Wow, late to this thread, but Sleek is pulling a Moggio here.

It's absolutely idiotic to contend Zep weren't A-listers in the 1970s.
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Gibsonite wrote: Fri Jun 13, 2025 12:26 pm
kwf wrote: Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:39 am Sammy gas sucked since VH days
Back in the day the guy wore an "Aids kills f*gs dead" shirt and hit a young girl in the face with a glass bottle. Now, other than running his mouth at his old bandmates and Mango Mussolini, he doesn't seem that bad anymore. Still sounds decent live too, unlike most of his contemporaries
Damn, Sammy Hagar did that shit as well!
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pieceofme wrote: Fri Jun 13, 2025 12:50 pm
Gibsonite wrote: Fri Jun 13, 2025 12:26 pm
kwf wrote: Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:39 am Sammy gas sucked since VH days
Back in the day the guy wore an "Aids kills f*gs dead" shirt and hit a young girl in the face with a glass bottle. Now, other than running his mouth at his old bandmates and Mango Mussolini, he doesn't seem that bad anymore. Still sounds decent live too, unlike most of his contemporaries
Damn, Sammy Hagar did that shit as well!
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Peter Criss and Gene Simmons for the better.
Paul Stanley, Eric Singer and Bruce Kulick stayed the same more or less
Ace Frehley, Vinnie Vincent and Mark St John changed for the worse. Thinking about it also Bob Kulick Playing lead guitar in Kiss must be a shitty job.
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No one changes ever. The only thing that changes is what we know about them.
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Bono Nettencourt wrote: Fri Jun 13, 2025 12:39 pm Robert Plant has aged gracefully while resisting the urge to whore out his legacy.
Gracefully? He aged like a crumpled receipt.
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Gibsonite wrote: Fri Jun 13, 2025 12:26 pm
Black Stuff wrote: Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:29 am Worse than ever is easy........ SEBITCHIAN!
Back in the day the guy wore an "Aids kills f*gs dead" shirt and hit a young girl in the face with a glass bottle. Now, other than running his mouth at his old bandmates and Mango Mussolini, he doesn't seem that bad anymore. Still sounds decent live too, unlike most of his contemporaries
As stupid throwing a bottle into a group of people, I don't recall him aiming for the girl.
But it's been a long time, and I don't recall the details.
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Fat_Elvis wrote: Fri Jun 13, 2025 8:54 pm
Bono Nettencourt wrote: Fri Jun 13, 2025 12:39 pm Robert Plant has aged gracefully while resisting the urge to whore out his legacy.
Gracefully? He aged like a crumpled receipt.
I suppose you're talking about his looks, not his music... sorry, I don't swing that way.
veritas wrote: Wed May 21, 2025 3:37 pm Wow, late to this thread, but Sleek is pulling a Moggio here.

It's absolutely idiotic to contend Zep weren't A-listers in the 1970s.
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I'm going with Mark Kendall (from Great White) getting sober and helping his peers with recovery.
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Velvis wrote: Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:02 pm
Gibsonite wrote: Fri Jun 13, 2025 12:26 pm
Black Stuff wrote: Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:29 am Worse than ever is easy........ SEBITCHIAN!
Back in the day the guy wore an "Aids kills f*gs dead" shirt and hit a young girl in the face with a glass bottle. Now, other than running his mouth at his old bandmates and Mango Mussolini, he doesn't seem that bad anymore. Still sounds decent live too, unlike most of his contemporaries
As stupid throwing a bottle into a group of people, I don't recall him aiming for the girl.
But it's been a long time, and I don't recall the details.
This. The bottle was thrown by a male fan and hit a hot headed, 23 year old Sebastian in the side of the head. It was impulsive, wrong and dumb on Sebastian’s part but perfectly understandable. The instigator and person really responsible for the whole thing was the guy who initiated the incident by throwing the bottle in the first place.

Sebastian has also spoken at length over the years about his remorse and regret for throwing the bottle back in the crowd and accidentally hitting the innocent bystander.

He isn’t remorseful about jumping in the crowd and kicking the guy who threw the bottle in the head nor should he be.
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Wiseacre wrote: Fri Jun 13, 2025 8:48 pm No one changes ever. The only thing that changes is what we know about them.
This is kinda where my head was at. People’s behavior can evolve, but the DNA of their personality doesn’t.

Tommy Lee is a world class douchebag. He’s always been. But when I was younger I thought it was cool. Now? Not so much.
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For the better:

George Lynch
Jerry Cantrell
Steve Lukather (however tenuously)
Billy Idol
Brian Wilson
David Crosby

For the worse:

Morrissey
Roger Waters
Neil Young
Tommy Lee (remarkable that he somehow got worse)
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Anyone who is obsessed with politics publicly now changed for the worse
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Stayed the same? Michael Monroe.

There’s a pretty young blonde girl at work. I told her I was going to see him. she’s asked who he was. I showed her a photo and said “You could’ve been related “.

She said “ He could’ve been my mother”.

I think Michael would take that as a compliment.
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greengoblinrulz wrote: Sat Jun 14, 2025 10:35 am Anyone who is obsessed with politics publicly now changed for the worse
That's what I was getting at.
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DonJuanDeMarco wrote: Sat Jun 14, 2025 11:00 am Stayed the same? Michael Monroe.

There’s a pretty young blonde girl at work. I told her I was going to see him. she’s asked who he was. I showed her a photo and said “You could’ve been related “.

She said “ He could’ve been my mother”.

I think Michael would take that as a compliment.

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Wiseacre wrote: Fri Jun 13, 2025 8:48 pm No one changes ever. The only thing that changes is what we know about them.
That's your opinion...

I truly believe a lot of us change, evolve and grow, especially from being a 20-something to living as an adult with adult-like responsibilities.

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Tommy2Tone84 wrote: Sat Jun 14, 2025 6:23 am
Velvis wrote: Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:02 pm
Gibsonite wrote: Fri Jun 13, 2025 12:26 pm

Back in the day the guy wore an "Aids kills f*gs dead" shirt and hit a young girl in the face with a glass bottle. Now, other than running his mouth at his old bandmates and Mango Mussolini, he doesn't seem that bad anymore. Still sounds decent live too, unlike most of his contemporaries
As stupid throwing a bottle into a group of people, I don't recall him aiming for the girl.
But it's been a long time, and I don't recall the details.
This. The bottle was thrown by a male fan and hit a hot headed, 23 year old Sebastian in the side of the head. It was impulsive, wrong and dumb on Sebastian’s part but perfectly understandable. The instigator and person really responsible for the whole thing was the guy who initiated the incident by throwing the bottle in the first place.

Sebastian has also spoken at length over the years about his remorse and regret for throwing the bottle back in the crowd and accidentally hitting the innocent bystander.

He isn’t remorseful about jumping in the crowd and kicking the guy who threw the bottle in the head nor should he be.

"""""""""""" The bottle was thrown by a male fan and hit a hot headed, 23 year old Sebastian in the side of the head. It was impulsive, wrong and dumb on Sebastian’s part but perfectly understandable."""""""""""

Perfectly understandable? You really believe this?

Even at a young age, and being angry, testosterone driven, etc... 99.99% of the human race would realize, "This will NOT be a good idea!"

But... hence is the case with Bach's legion of delusional supporters, who also still believe he sings great. Lol.

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I'm a fan of Sebastian Bach but the only thing about him that aged gracefully was his hair.

He's just as much of a man child as ever.
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DonJuanDeMarco wrote: Sat Jun 14, 2025 12:24 pm I'm a fan of Sebastian Bach but the only thing about him that aged gracefully was his hair.

He's just as much of a man child as ever.
His latest album was pretty damn good though. He is somebody who I never thought would be capable of putting out good music on his own, but I stand corrected after hearing Child Within The Man.
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