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Re: I don't get why Bat Out Of Hell sold so much?

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HoldenSSV wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 3:44 pm
Tommy2Tone84 wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 9:08 am

Todd Rundgren isn’t good enough to be a pimple on Springsteen’s ass
GTFOH. Bruce couldn't carry Rundgren's guitar strap. Todd is a better singer too. What makes it even funnier is that Weinberg and Bittan played on the record.
Is there a reason to compare the two? Wikipedia said Rundgren has kids with Springsteen's ex, is that why he's frustrated?

Springsteen isn't holding anyone's strap, that's clear.
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jens wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 9:25 am
HoldenSSV wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 3:44 pm
Tommy2Tone84 wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 9:08 am

Todd Rundgren isn’t good enough to be a pimple on Springsteen’s ass
GTFOH. Bruce couldn't carry Rundgren's guitar strap. Todd is a better singer too. What makes it even funnier is that Weinberg and Bittan played on the record.
Is there a reason to compare the two? Wikipedia said Rundgren has kids with Springsteen's ex, is that why he's frustrated?

Springsteen isn't holding anyone's strap, that's clear.
He could have the lowest talent/success ratio of any major classic rock star.
veritas wrote: Wed May 21, 2025 3:37 pm Wow, late to this thread, but Sleek is pulling a Moggio here.

It's absolutely idiotic to contend Zep weren't A-listers in the 1970s.
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Bono Nettencourt wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 9:41 am
jens wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 9:25 am
Springsteen isn't holding anyone's strap, that's clear.
He could have the lowest talent/success ratio of any major classic rock star.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Giving a worldwidely revered artist as Patti Smith her biggest hit alone proves otherwise.
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Tommy2Tone84 wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 11:28 pm
HoldenSSV wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 3:44 pm
Tommy2Tone84 wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 9:08 am


Todd Rundgren isn’t good enough to be a pimple on Springsteen’s ass
GTFOH. Bruce couldn't carry Rundgren's guitar strap. Todd is a better singer too. What makes it even funnier is that Weinberg and Bittan played on the record.
Todd sings like a little girl and plays labia lounge music. He makes Steve Perry sound like Tom Araya.

This shit makes Poison sound and look like Sabbath
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj6a__KgDC8


Bittan played on everybody’s record. He always came home to E Street.
Todd Rundgren produced the greatest Canadian rock album of all-time so he's a-ok with me..

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Gibsonite wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 6:55 pm
Todd Rundgren produced the greatest Canadian rock album of all-time so he's a-ok with me..

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Well, not really, but he's one of the greatest underappreciated writers and arrangers there ever was.
He's like Todd's little brother or something.

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Bono Nettencourt wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 9:41 am
jens wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 9:25 am
HoldenSSV wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 3:44 pm

GTFOH. Bruce couldn't carry Rundgren's guitar strap. Todd is a better singer too. What makes it even funnier is that Weinberg and Bittan played on the record.
Is there a reason to compare the two? Wikipedia said Rundgren has kids with Springsteen's ex, is that why he's frustrated?

Springsteen isn't holding anyone's strap, that's clear.
He could have the lowest talent/success ratio of any major classic rock star.
You’re on drugs
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Dead Ringer is a really good album (and nice Bernie Wrightson covert art too). Much better than Steinman’s original (meant to be) follow up Bad For Good…and better than anything Meat released the remainder of his career imo. I was always a fan, but his albums were one or two really good songs with a lot of filler after dead ringer.
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MetalSludgeCEO wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 9:24 am During middle school, I probably listened to this album 500 times, minimum.

While I haven't listened in a while, I would bet I could singer every lyric to every song on the 1st take.

As for your question... well, it's obvious you don't "get it" but according to the rest of the world, we do! Congrats, you are in the teeny tiny minority here.

It's certified 14x Platinum in the U.S.A., and 26x Platinum in Australia. Along with 11x in the U.K., 17x in New Zealand and Double Diamond in Canada!

Not too mention, a grip of awards and plaques from other countries, various Entertainment Industry outlets & more!

It's listed as the 6th best selling recorded music release of all time, behind "Thriller", "Back In Black", "Dark Side of the Moon" and a few others.

More info is here > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat_Out_of_Hell

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the cover ties with Molly hatchet for false advertising
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Molly Hatchet could rawk a little.
veritas wrote: Wed May 21, 2025 3:37 pm Wow, late to this thread, but Sleek is pulling a Moggio here.

It's absolutely idiotic to contend Zep weren't A-listers in the 1970s.
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loved "Bat" and most of the Meat Loaf albums.

it was one of the few albums that me and my Dad could agree on.

it's weird, while I dug the singles, I never got into the album as a whole until the Summer of 1986 - almost 10 years after it was released - when I found the cassette in a pawn shop. pretty much defined those few months of my life. when I listen to those songs, it brings me right back.

always thought it was awesome that he had a resurgence seven years later with "Bat II", which was great, but I always preferred the third installment.
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DangerZone wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 12:52 am the cover ties with Molly hatchet for false advertising
Rilly?

It is about escaping hell on a motorcyle.

The album cover is a pretty literal depiction of the lyrics of the song.
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Sleek wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 2:14 pm
DangerZone wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 12:52 am the cover ties with Molly hatchet for false advertising
Rilly?

It is about escaping hell on a motorcyle.

The album cover is a pretty literal depiction of the lyrics of the song.
That cover promises METAL!!!
It does not deliver.
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nah, it came out in 1977. There were plenty of heavy rock records out.
Not gonna argue with anyone who thinks that cover represents the gay born to run rocky horror music within
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Turner Coates wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 7:51 pm
Gibsonite wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 6:55 pm
Todd Rundgren produced the greatest Canadian rock album of all-time so he's a-ok with me..

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Moe is God.
Well, not really, but he's one of the greatest underappreciated writers and arrangers there ever was.
He's like Todd's little brother or something.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bklO0uA ... AB&index=8
They're still killing it live too. Been a fan since the original version of this song showed up on MuchMusic one day and made me go "What the fuck was that??". Not as familiar with their later material as I should be but the first few records were great

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daveg wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 8:41 am Big fun album that appealed to just about everyone. Might not have been heavy enough for the rockers, but 2 out of 3 was always the last song at the school dance, and back then it was good enough to cop a feel of a girls ass...probably for the first time...that was good enough for me.

Go to a wedding now...or a bar that plays Paradise. Everyone of all ages knows the boy/girl part.

Bigger question..and I've asked this before..is how to you have one of the biggest selling albums of all time, then the follow up doesn't go gold. Figure you would have got 1 million people buying it regardless.
Bat out of Hell was dated as fuck by the time I was in Junior High, but they would still play Paradise at the dances, the assistant Gym Teacher and the special needs Teacher would get up on the stage and act out/lip sync the boy/girl part, it was "cringe", I still get "douche chills" thinking about it...........
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Yeah Bat and Rocky Horror are two of the worst examples of SWPL.
veritas wrote: Wed May 21, 2025 3:37 pm Wow, late to this thread, but Sleek is pulling a Moggio here.

It's absolutely idiotic to contend Zep weren't A-listers in the 1970s.
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DangerZone wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 5:57 am nah, it came out in 1977. There were plenty of heavy rock records out.
But look at the covers of the pre-1977 heavy rock records. I can only think of a few that had a comic book style, action packed fantasy cover.
Kiss's Destroyer and, stretching it a bit, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath.
70s heavy rock albums looked like early Deep Purple, Bad Company, UFO and Alice Cooper.
Not Iron Maiden, Motörhead or Manowar.
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Tommy2Tone84 wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 9:08 am
Turner Coates wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 9:52 am Todd Rundgren talks about producing Meat Loaf's 1977 smash record 'Bat Out of Hell' on his own dime because he thought it would be a funny Bruce Springsteen parody.

https://www.billboard.com/music/rock/to ... n-8006795/

Todd Rundgren isn’t good enough to be a pimple on Springsteen’s ass
Clearly you're unaware of the rumors that Springsteen doesn't even sing or play on any of his records. It's all studio guys. The worship around him makes no sense.
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Gibsonite wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 7:01 am
They're still killing it live too. Been a fan since the original version of this song showed up on MuchMusic one day and made me go "What the fuck was that??". Not as familiar with their later material as I should be but the first few records were great
I had all their CDs. I donated them to a music academy that teaches kids and helps them form bands.

Here's an "unfinished" song written by Moe that Todd wrote lyrics and additional music for.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dOX5byXE3Y (live)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dmUlUNh0zU (recorded version)
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FreddyFender wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 8:39 am
Tommy2Tone84 wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 9:08 am
Turner Coates wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 9:52 am Todd Rundgren talks about producing Meat Loaf's 1977 smash record 'Bat Out of Hell' on his own dime because he thought it would be a funny Bruce Springsteen parody.

https://www.billboard.com/music/rock/to ... n-8006795/

Todd Rundgren isn’t good enough to be a pimple on Springsteen’s ass
Clearly you're unaware of the rumors that Springsteen doesn't even sing or play on any of his records. It's all studio guys. The worship around him makes no sense.
Not playing I can believe... but who covered for him vocally? Miami Steve?
veritas wrote: Wed May 21, 2025 3:37 pm Wow, late to this thread, but Sleek is pulling a Moggio here.

It's absolutely idiotic to contend Zep weren't A-listers in the 1970s.
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Bono Nettencourt wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 9:09 am
FreddyFender wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 8:39 am
Tommy2Tone84 wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 9:08 am


Todd Rundgren isn’t good enough to be a pimple on Springsteen’s ass
Clearly you're unaware of the rumors that Springsteen doesn't even sing or play on any of his records. It's all studio guys. The worship around him makes no sense.
Not playing I can believe... but who covered for him vocally? Miami Steve?
It's 100% Little Steven on vocals.

Jk....I was just teasing Tommy for constantly saying bands like GNR and Whitesnake didn't play on their records.
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Dang.

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veritas wrote: Wed May 21, 2025 3:37 pm Wow, late to this thread, but Sleek is pulling a Moggio here.

It's absolutely idiotic to contend Zep weren't A-listers in the 1970s.
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FreddyFender wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 8:39 am
Tommy2Tone84 wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 9:08 am
Turner Coates wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 9:52 am Todd Rundgren talks about producing Meat Loaf's 1977 smash record 'Bat Out of Hell' on his own dime because he thought it would be a funny Bruce Springsteen parody.

https://www.billboard.com/music/rock/to ... n-8006795/

Todd Rundgren isn’t good enough to be a pimple on Springsteen’s ass
Clearly you're unaware of the rumors that Springsteen doesn't even sing or play on any of his records. It's all studio guys. The worship around him makes no sense.
That’s ok. Neither did John Sykes

Kidding aside, I’ve heard the earth is flat and that maybe Oswald didn’t really shoot Kennedy.
Just because some morons spew it doesn’t mean it’s true. But you do you.

I hardly worship Springsteen but I have to give respect where respect is due.

Todd Rundgren made Journey sound like Sabbath.
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it was the right album at the right time...to understand it you would have had to live in that time, much like hendrix who literally sounded like an alien compared to what else was out there at the time...trying to judge it by today's standards is difficult as that was 40 years ago and the world was just different then...d.m.
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diablomozart wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2024 7:40 am it was the right album at the right time...to understand it you would have had to live in that time"
^^^THIS!!!!^^^ not to mention it's a solid great record. You may not like it, but millions upon millions of people did.
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Todd Rundgren, Springsteen, Journey and Sabbath all fuckin' RULE. 8)
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Nobodyspecial wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2024 7:59 am
diablomozart wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2024 7:40 am it was the right album at the right time...to understand it you would have had to live in that time"
^^^THIS!!!!^^^ not to mention it's a solid great record. You may not like it, but millions upon millions of people did.
"""""""""""""You may not like it, but millions upon millions of people did."""""""""""""

WRONG!

Tens of Millions upon Tens of Millions people did!

Fixed it for ya. Lol

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I was alive then and never really got into it even though he had a great voice. What’s weird is I didn’t know a single person who had the album including my older brother and all his friends. Everyone knew the radio stuff and that’s about it. I’m really not sure who bought all those copies, but I guess someone did. Seemed like most people basically liked “paradise” because of the play-by-play sex thing more than anything.
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Brainy Lane wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 7:18 pm
Sleek wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 2:14 pm
DangerZone wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 12:52 am the cover ties with Molly hatchet for false advertising
Rilly?

It is about escaping hell on a motorcyle.

The album cover is a pretty literal depiction of the lyrics of the song.
That cover promises METAL!!!
It does not deliver.
My 1977 kid years agrees with this. It’s the exact opposite of what I thought when I first saw Led Zeppelin’s IV cover. “What kind of fucking country accordion bullshit is this gonna be?!”
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