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SchenkerFan wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 2:58 am From the get-go, they were all about putting out a bunch of good singles and a ton of filler on every album. The only great album start to finish is Creatures of the Night. Maybe the debut.

Discuss.
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The correct answer is still Red Hot Chili Peppers.
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I vote for Bon Jovi, my music collection goes from Bob Weir straight to Bow Wow Wow. Nope, no room for that Bon Jovi crap... Kiss has quite a few good to very good albums.
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Zander wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 10:25 pm The correct answer is still Red Hot Chili Peppers.
I switched in the radio in the car yesterday, they were playing that "its a lonely view" song. Don't know the title and dont care. I recognised it in 2 seconds and it was off 2 seconds later. Horrible, horrible band. I can understand why people eat McDonalds and watch Real Housewives, even though I'd never do either. I cannot understand how anyone likes RHCP.
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MetalSludgeCEO wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 2:23 pm
Tommy wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 9:47 am
MetalSludgeCEO wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 9:21 am Judging by 50 years of dedicated fans, followers and sales... it's FAR from the worst!

Adding... Gene & Paul are 2 of the richest men in Rock n' Roll... clearly they didn't get that way based off of "worst" anything.

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No... but it's obvi that millions of others do!

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Now talk about her 'catalog'.

She's rich. Great. She's absolutely dogshit as an 'artist'. It's ok to say so. Which is what this thread is about.
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kytepunches wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 8:23 pm For me the answer would be U2 … almost all filler garbage or just plain shit. They peaked with album one.
Retarded.

Bono might be a dickhead, but they’ve released a shitload of FANTASTIC music. A LOT of it was before the album I’m sure you are referring to.
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Alice Cooper is a contender. Pretty much everything from Goes to Hell through Dada is ass while his post Brutal Planet stuff is pretty uneven.

Once you go past Sabotage, Sabbath's catalog gets pretty patchy.
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Wiseacre wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 1:08 am
kytepunches wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 8:23 pm For me the answer would be U2 … almost all filler garbage or just plain shit. They peaked with album one.
Retarded.

Bono might be a dickhead, but they’ve released a shitload of FANTASTIC music. A LOT of it was before the album I’m sure you are referring to.
I have mostly retired from using the "R" word, but there is a time and place for almost everything, and you nailed it in your response.

U2's debut was excellent, but they've had at least five other great albums, in addition to a few that were merely good.
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HoldenSSV wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 7:56 am Motorhead
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How can this thread fill two pages without mentioning AC/DC? Their hit singles are good to great but most of their albums not called HTH or BIB are padded with more generic filler than GGG or Animalize. I happen to love Powerage but that's an unpopular opinion even among AC/DC diehards...
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CrankerBait wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 6:15 am
Wiseacre wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 1:08 am
kytepunches wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 8:23 pm For me the answer would be U2 … almost all filler garbage or just plain shit. They peaked with album one.
Retarded.

Bono might be a dickhead, but they’ve released a shitload of FANTASTIC music. A LOT of it was before the album I’m sure you are referring to.
I have mostly retired from using the "R" word, but there is a time and place for almost everything, and you nailed it in your response.

U2's debut was excellent, but they've had at least five other great albums, in addition to a few that were merely good.
I suppose if elevator music, dress up as rock is your thing. They are a BORING band with BORING songs.
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Love_Industry wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 8:17 am
HoldenSSV wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 7:56 am Motorhead
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How can this thread fill two pages without mentioning AC/DC? Their hit singles are good to great but most of their albums not called HTH or BIB are padded with more generic filler than GGG or Animalize. I happen to love Powerage but that's an unpopular opinion even among AC/DC diehards...
Most AC/DC diehards love Powerage.

But you make a fair point about AC/DC in general. Pretty much every album post BIB is full of filler. And there was certainly a decent chunk in the Bon Scott era.
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I'll listen to all of the AC/DC Bon Scott records because it's Bon Scott & those records bring me back. I won't listen to any Brian Johnson filler songs because who cares, it all sounds similar after BIB, anyways.
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kytepunches wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 8:32 am
CrankerBait wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 6:15 am
Wiseacre wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 1:08 am

Retarded.

Bono might be a dickhead, but they’ve released a shitload of FANTASTIC music. A LOT of it was before the album I’m sure you are referring to.
I have mostly retired from using the "R" word, but there is a time and place for almost everything, and you nailed it in your response.

U2's debut was excellent, but they've had at least five other great albums, in addition to a few that were merely good.
I suppose if elevator music, dress up as rock is your thing. They are a BORING band with BORING songs.
You sound like a real meathead
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tooth wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 9:25 am I'll listen to all of the AC/DC Bon Scott records because it's Bon Scott & those records bring me back. I won't listen to any Brian Johnson filler songs because who cares, it all sounds similar after BIB, anyways.
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Wiseacre wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 2:32 pm
kytepunches wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 8:32 am
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I have mostly retired from using the "R" word, but there is a time and place for almost everything, and you nailed it in your response.

U2's debut was excellent, but they've had at least five other great albums, in addition to a few that were merely good.
I suppose if elevator music, dress up as rock is your thing. They are a BORING band with BORING songs.
You sound like a real meathead
Name calling really brings a special something to any discussion. I do not like U2 ..no matter what Spin magazine tells me to think, i can make my own decisions . I suppose if that makes me a retarded meathead, then so be it.
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kytepunches wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 3:08 pm
Wiseacre wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 2:32 pm
kytepunches wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 8:32 am
I suppose if elevator music, dress up as rock is your thing. They are a BORING band with BORING songs.
You sound like a real meathead
Name calling really brings a special something to any discussion. I do not like U2 ..no matter what Spin magazine tells me to think, i can make my own decisions . I suppose if that makes me a retarded meathead, then so be it.
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Tommy wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 11:43 pm
MetalSludgeCEO wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 2:23 pm
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You must love Beyonce.
No... but it's obvi that millions of others do!

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Now talk about her 'catalog'.

She's rich. Great. She's absolutely dogshit as an 'artist'. It's ok to say so. Which is what this thread is about.
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SchenkerFan wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 2:58 am From the get-go, they were all about putting out a bunch of good singles and a ton of filler on every album. The only great album start to finish is Creatures of the Night. Maybe the debut.

Discuss.
That might be true. But longevity is a thing. And KISS can play their hits for a 3 hour concert and that's what we all came to hear.
So can The Eagles, Elton John, Aerosmith, The Rolling Stones, Paul McCartney, The Who, Heart, the list is endless.
Tons of 60's and 70's bands can still put on a great show.
And who cares about their dozens of albums? They all have a greatest hits album that is awesome.
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Hell no they don't. Destroyer is great. One bad song on it. Love Gun is almost all bangers too. Creatures has been already cited.

And then we have my favorite: The Elder. It's fucking fantastic. Yeah the mix is a little murky but that adds to the vibe on songs like Under The Rose and Mr. Blackwell.
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DangerZone wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 4:31 pm
Tommy wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 11:43 pm
MetalSludgeCEO wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 2:23 pm

No... but it's obvi that millions of others do!

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Now talk about her 'catalog'.

She's rich. Great. She's absolutely dogshit as an 'artist'. It's ok to say so. Which is what this thread is about.
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The funny thing about Kiss is they're ashamed of their hits. Do they still play songs from Hot in the Shade? People forget that album was all over MTV.
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Rocker4Real wrote: Sat Aug 09, 2025 12:36 am The funny thing about Kiss is they're ashamed of their hits. Do they still play songs from Hot in the Shade? People forget that album was all over MTV.
The funny thing about Kiss is that their hits are their least Kiss sounding songs. Except RARAN I guess but if you had no idea would you say Beth, IWMFLY and Forever were by the same band that wrote Lick It Up, Love Gun or Shout it Out Loud?
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Rocker4Real wrote: Sat Aug 09, 2025 12:36 am The funny thing about Kiss is they're ashamed of their hits. Do they still play songs from Hot in the Shade? People forget that album was all over MTV.
That’s a good point, of late I’ve only listened to the original member albums, and then only rarely.
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Wiseacre wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 2:32 pm
kytepunches wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 8:32 am
CrankerBait wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 6:15 am

I have mostly retired from using the "R" word, but there is a time and place for almost everything, and you nailed it in your response.

U2's debut was excellent, but they've had at least five other great albums, in addition to a few that were merely good.
I suppose if elevator music, dress up as rock is your thing. They are a BORING band with BORING songs.
You sound like a real meathead

Boy, a little bit of platform for you and you don’t handle it very well. Trashing on everybody.
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ParaDime77 wrote: Mon Aug 11, 2025 4:33 pm
Wiseacre wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 2:32 pm
kytepunches wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 8:32 am
I suppose if elevator music, dress up as rock is your thing. They are a BORING band with BORING songs.
You sound like a real meathead

Boy, a little bit of platform for you and you don’t handle it very well. Trashing on everybody.
WTF are you taking about? I’ve been on this site for ages and ages and it used to be a place to break balls and have some fun. Saying a great and mega-successful band like U2 band is BORING and that their fans either like them because they like elevator music or because a magazine told them to isn’t trashing on people? And what fucking “platform”? :lol: is everyone on this board a pc baby now?
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SchenkerFan wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 2:58 am From the get-go, they were all about putting out a bunch of good singles and a ton of filler on every album. The only great album start to finish is Creatures of the Night. Maybe the debut.

Discuss.


Stop doing drugs. It’s not like the Schenker brothers have an unblemished track record. Michael has released a lot of garbage over the years with various lineups and name changes. As much as I’m a Scorpions fan, I don’t listen to them prior to Matthias joining them, and it’s not like their efforts over the last thirty years hasn’t been peppered with mediocrity.

KISS’s debut is all killer and no filler. It has its issues as a package, mainly the production and track listing. The songs aren’t the problem. Hotter Than Hell has the same problem. Great songs but a f*cked up track list and lame, lackluster, amateur production. They are still better than the ACB.
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Wiseacre wrote: Mon Aug 11, 2025 6:55 pm
ParaDime77 wrote: Mon Aug 11, 2025 4:33 pm
Wiseacre wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 2:32 pm

You sound like a real meathead

Boy, a little bit of platform for you and you don’t handle it very well. Trashing on everybody.
WTF are you taking about? I’ve been on this site for ages and ages and it used to be a place to break balls and have some fun. Saying a great and mega-successful band like U2 band is BORING and that their fans either like them because they like elevator music or because a magazine told them to isn’t trashing on people? And what fucking “platform”? :lol: is everyone on this board a pc baby now?
To be clear . We all now agree Kiss > U2 . Get in line Wiseacre, this short bus only has so many seats. :wink:
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I don't understand theae people saying U2...especially the ones saying "U2 had a good debut album".... do you even know what their debut album was? It was not The Joshua Tree, which has no filler at all on it and is easily in the top 100 albums of all time.

Boy was their debut cd. There is substantial filler on the earlier albums and on the later albums but there was a really good run with Unforgettable Fire. The Joshua Tree, Achtung Baby and Zooropa. Yes i left out rattle and hum
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