Amazing albums with garbage tone

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I dig the sound of Tooth and Nail, don't get the hate for the tone/production, it's sharp and has bite.

Stay Hungry, on the other hand, does sound weak, i can see why the band re-recorded it (Still Hungry), though I didn't bother getting the remake.
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Bands re-record stuff they did with Werman thinking it is going to come out better, and it magically never does...as if he brought something that the band itself does not have.
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Motley Crue - Shout At The Devil

Dokken - Tooth & Nail

I enjoyed songs on both of them but both didn't sound quite right to me, especially in rhythm guitar tone. George made up for it on T&N in that his lead tone was so good.

Also, Krokus - Change of Address, which just sounded soft and padded on all the edges. It's odd since they found a tone that really suited them with Tom Allom on "Headhunter." And then they never went back to that.
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Van Ailin' wrote: Sat Sep 13, 2025 12:33 pm Motley Crue - Shout At The Devil

Dokken - Tooth & Nail

I enjoyed songs on both of them but both didn't sound quite right to me, especially in rhythm guitar tone. George made up for it on T&N in that his lead tone was so good.

Also, Krokus - Change of Address, which just sounded soft and padded on all the edges. It's odd since they found a tone that really suited them with Tom Allom on "Headhunter." And then they never went back to that.
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veritas wrote: Wed May 21, 2025 3:37 pm Wow, late to this thread, but Sleek is pulling a Moggio here.

It's absolutely idiotic to contend Zep weren't A-listers in the 1970s.
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SchenkerFan wrote: Wed Sep 10, 2025 11:39 pm And I definitely blame Tom Werman. He may have been a good pop producer, but he completely neutered heavy metal bands.
Cheap Trick hated Tom Werman's production on their album "In Color" that they re-recored the entire album with Steve Albini.
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Yup. They sure did.

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Part of the issue with Tooth and Nail is that the overall sound is just really low. It is one of the weakest sounding metal releases I own.
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juano wrote: Sat Sep 13, 2025 1:50 pm
SchenkerFan wrote: Wed Sep 10, 2025 11:39 pm And I definitely blame Tom Werman. He may have been a good pop producer, but he completely neutered heavy metal bands.
Cheap Trick hated Tom Werman's production on their album "In Color" that they re-recored the entire album with Steve Albini.
Steve Albini could be the most overrated individual in music industry history.
veritas wrote: Wed May 21, 2025 3:37 pm Wow, late to this thread, but Sleek is pulling a Moggio here.

It's absolutely idiotic to contend Zep weren't A-listers in the 1970s.
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