HueyRamone wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 8:51 amNot sure if you mean enthusiasm from the band or from the fans, but the Cray Nights show that was supposed to be at Long Beach Arena was cancelled for weak ticket sales. We went to the one in Orange County and while it wasnt bad, it was the absolute minimum with everything- 70min set, no pyro, I think Gene did aces rocket shooting out of the headstock.Tommy2Tone84 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 11:01 pm I can’t figure out how Crazy Nights went platinum but the tour was allegedly an abysmal failure. The shows I’ve seen from Tokyo to Western Europe to Stateside seem to prove otherwise. But the tour doesn’t have quite the enthusiasm
that the Asylum shows did.
Not sure why they would halfass their live shows because the album underperformed. If you realize you arent gonna do Jovi sales, wouldnt you ensure your live audience stays strong? I guess they course corrected on the live front with the Shade (Hot in the) tour.
Fan and crowd enthusiasm. While I was “there” for Asylum, I wasn’t able to see the tour. But all the shows available out there, mainly on YouTube don’t appear to backup that the tour was some abysmal failure. Same goes for Crazy Nights.
Gene did Ace’s rocket gimmick the whole tour. He does it in the video for the title track.
The band, even in their mid to late 70s zenith were never doing 90+ min set lists. 70 mins sounds about average for them. At best their set lists were 20 songs. Maybe 22 if we were lucky.
Crazy Nights went platinum, HITS went gold, Revenge went gold. From a numbers standpoint, the HITS tour was the best. I would then argue Crazy Nights and then Revenge. Revenge had a much bigger, more extravagant and expensive stage show and the album tanked. It’s not like Mercury didn’t promote it at the time. They were all over MTV and the rock magazines at
at the time and they had two home video releases. Mercury, to their credit blitzed us with Revenge. Mercury promoted the hell out of it and it sank like a lead balloon. It only went gold. I remember and also have read online for years how sparsely the shows were attended in many markets. I would argue that from 1983-1992, Revenge was the biggest flop of their career during that time period. They had a tremendous amount of buzz going for them at the time. Probably the most buzz I remember experiencing since they took the makeup off in ‘83 for Lick It Up. But Revenge failed abysmally to produce results.
There’s this false narrative among the fans that the band was eating sh*t between 1984 and 1990, and the only thing that saved them was Revenge. That wasn’t my experience or recollection as a fan at all during that time.
I remember Asylum, Animalize and even Lick It Up being very popular and well liked albums. I remember my fellow junior high Kisstards being jazzed when Asylum was released. While Animalize outsold it, I remember Asylum being a fan favorite at the time. Whether for Tears Are Falling, Uh All Night or King of The Mountain.
For some perspective, the Crazy Nights show I attended outsold the Revenge show.
