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jens wrote: Thu Jun 12, 2025 6:21 am
Hatchets Molly wrote: Thu Jun 12, 2025 5:53 am I don't understand why they're not teaching her both languages when they're bilingual and both documented and/or U.S. citizens.
You don't understand because you clearly have no idea how language acquisition works.
1. you talk one single language with your child. Evidently your mother tongue, not only to express yourself with the most nuance as possible, but also because you'll have the largest vocabulary which the child will pick up. The better the first language is, the better the kid will pick up the second one. And another minor plus, the child won't pick up any mistake you could make in your learned language.
2. kids easily learn a second language from school and friends

The only downside is that racist shitheads could look down on you.

Source: me writing this in my third fucking language from a bilingual city.
This is absolutely true.

My own daughters are half Mexican. I do not speak Spanish, and their dad didn't really speak Spanish to them either. However, they spent all day with Grandma while I was working, before they went to school. Grandma didn't speak English.
They had no issues with either language. They are all completely bilingual.

There are many ways to teach your children two languages simultaneously. One way that is used often, is speak one language at home, and the other outside the house.

I had a coworker that had a 5 year old daughter. They spoke Hebrew at home, and English outside the house.
They took a trip to Israel, and the little girl came home and told me "They speak Hebrew in the street! We don't do that!
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Vince Neil Eats wrote: Thu Jun 12, 2025 7:41 am

That’s a whole other issue. From my experience there is a lack of interest in assimilating nowadays. People used to want to come here and fit in. Today they don’t have to because we accommodate everyone. Lack of a national identity destroys countries. We are beginning to see that now.
The US has never had a national identity, we are a melting pot, by definition. You do know what it says on the Statue of Liberty, right?
What national identity are you even talking about? Please answer this question if you answer nothing else!
Why does anyone have to assimilate? Why shouldn't we accommodate everyone?
It would be damn shame if we didn't have a Chinatown in most major cities, or any other ethnic neighborhoods. They are all fabulous!
What would you like the US to be? White and English speaking only?
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Metal Sludge wrote: Thu Jun 12, 2025 6:47 pm
Vince Neil Eats wrote: Thu Jun 12, 2025 7:41 am

That’s a whole other issue. From my experience there is a lack of interest in assimilating nowadays. People used to want to come here and fit in. Today they don’t have to because we accommodate everyone. Lack of a national identity destroys countries. We are beginning to see that now.
The US has never had a national identity, we are a melting pot, by definition. You do know what it says on the Statue of Liberty, right?
What national identity are you even talking about? Please answer this question if you answer nothing else!
Why does anyone have to assimilate? Why shouldn't we accommodate everyone?
It would be damn shame if we didn't have a Chinatown in most major cities, or any other ethnic neighborhoods. They are all fabulous!
What would you like the US to be? White and English speaking only?
White and English was never written or alluded to, although language is important. I love when people miss the point. Your assumptions were way off. Of course this country is built on a sense of diversity. I’m not saying immigrants have to cast away their culture as soon as they step on our shores. That has never happened in the past, nor is it possible. However, there has to be a certain amount of assimilation that takes place in order to respect our societal norms. If you don’t have assimilation you have a country of klans. That creates internal strife and division. There was more of an effort to do that by immigrants in the past. I’m not seeing that as much as I used to. I see it in my line of work. A profession I’ve been in for 23 years. I know people see the “speak English” rhetoric as racist, but the truth is that a common language unites people. Communication is essential to any marriage of groups of people. While our national identify may not be as deep rooted as other nations, we certainly have one. Much of it built on our belief in democracy, western rule of law, the idea of rugged individualism, capitalism.
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Don't let that music stop
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From the South Bay to the Valley
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Every where is very crappy
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Vince Neil Eats wrote: Thu Jun 12, 2025 11:17 pm
Metal Sludge wrote: Thu Jun 12, 2025 6:47 pm
Vince Neil Eats wrote: Thu Jun 12, 2025 7:41 am

That’s a whole other issue. From my experience there is a lack of interest in assimilating nowadays. People used to want to come here and fit in. Today they don’t have to because we accommodate everyone. Lack of a national identity destroys countries. We are beginning to see that now.
The US has never had a national identity, we are a melting pot, by definition. You do know what it says on the Statue of Liberty, right?
What national identity are you even talking about? Please answer this question if you answer nothing else!
Why does anyone have to assimilate? Why shouldn't we accommodate everyone?
It would be damn shame if we didn't have a Chinatown in most major cities, or any other ethnic neighborhoods. They are all fabulous!
What would you like the US to be? White and English speaking only?
White and English was never written or alluded to, although language is important. I love when people miss the point. Your assumptions were way off. Of course this country is built on a sense of diversity. I’m not saying immigrants have to cast away their culture as soon as they step on our shores. That has never happened in the past, nor is it possible. However, there has to be a certain amount of assimilation that takes place in order to respect our societal norms. If you don’t have assimilation you have a country of klans. That creates internal strife and division. There was more of an effort to do that by immigrants in the past. I’m not seeing that as much as I used to. I see it in my line of work. A profession I’ve been in for 23 years. I know people see the “speak English” rhetoric as racist, but the truth is that a common language unites people. Communication is essential to any marriage of groups of people. While our national identify may not be as deep rooted as other nations, we certainly have one. Much of it built on our belief in democracy, western rule of law, the idea of rugged individualism, capitalism.

White and English was never written or alluded to? In what alternate universe are you living in?

Our country was built on stolen land, human trafficking and slave labor.

Canada is much more united than we are currently and they are a bilingual country. Please explain how you reconcile that in your head.

The UK is literally made up of four different countries (England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland) and they are much more united than we are as a country.

Immigrants aren’t our country’s problem and never have been. They’ve only been repeatedly and historically used as a scapegoat. You and I wouldn’t be here without our ancestors immigrating here somehow and somewhere down our familial line.

Eddie Van Halen used to talk about attending grade school in Pasadena. He would get bullied and picked on by the white kids because he couldn’t speak English and was half-Asian. He said a group of black kids in his class always stood up for him and protected him.

Why is it acceptable for Irish Americans to proudly display Irish flags, celebrate and be proud of their Irish heritage but it’s taken as a personal insult and affront by us here in the white community when Mexican Americans do so?

BTW, Vince Neil is Mexican-American, and always was the best and coolest thing about that clown show of a band he is in.
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Tommy2Tone84 wrote: Sat Jun 14, 2025 6:09 am
Vince Neil Eats wrote: Thu Jun 12, 2025 11:17 pm
Metal Sludge wrote: Thu Jun 12, 2025 6:47 pm

The US has never had a national identity, we are a melting pot, by definition. You do know what it says on the Statue of Liberty, right?
What national identity are you even talking about? Please answer this question if you answer nothing else!
Why does anyone have to assimilate? Why shouldn't we accommodate everyone?
It would be damn shame if we didn't have a Chinatown in most major cities, or any other ethnic neighborhoods. They are all fabulous!
What would you like the US to be? White and English speaking only?
White and English was never written or alluded to, although language is important. I love when people miss the point. Your assumptions were way off. Of course this country is built on a sense of diversity. I’m not saying immigrants have to cast away their culture as soon as they step on our shores. That has never happened in the past, nor is it possible. However, there has to be a certain amount of assimilation that takes place in order to respect our societal norms. If you don’t have assimilation you have a country of klans. That creates internal strife and division. There was more of an effort to do that by immigrants in the past. I’m not seeing that as much as I used to. I see it in my line of work. A profession I’ve been in for 23 years. I know people see the “speak English” rhetoric as racist, but the truth is that a common language unites people. Communication is essential to any marriage of groups of people. While our national identify may not be as deep rooted as other nations, we certainly have one. Much of it built on our belief in democracy, western rule of law, the idea of rugged individualism, capitalism.

White and English was never written or alluded to? In what alternate universe are you living in?

Our country was built on stolen land, human trafficking and slave labor.

Canada is much more united than we are currently and they are a bilingual country. Please explain how you reconcile that in your head.

The UK is literally made up of four different countries (England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland) and they are much more united than we are as a country.

Immigrants aren’t our country’s problem and never have been. They’ve only been repeatedly and historically used as a scapegoat. You and I wouldn’t be here without our ancestors immigrating here somehow and somewhere down our familial line.

Eddie Van Halen used to talk about attending grade school in Pasadena. He would get bullied and picked on by the white kids because he couldn’t speak English and was half-Asian. He said a group of black kids in his class always stood up for him and protected him.

Why is it acceptable for Irish Americans to proudly display Irish flags, celebrate and be proud of their Irish heritage but it’s taken as a personal insult and affront by us here in the white community when Mexican Americans do so?

BTW, Vince Neil is Mexican-American, and always was the best and coolest thing about that clown show of a band he is in.
Dude, you are unhinged. I never mentioned anything about flags. Nor did I say immigrants were a problem. You are obviously suffering from a mental illness. The only point I made was that people need to assimilate a certain extent when coming into this country. You took that one point and turned me into some type of white supremacist. I really hope you get some help. If anyone on the board has this person’s personal information please contact him to make sure he doesn’t hurt himself or someone else.
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Vince Neil Eats wrote: Sat Jun 14, 2025 2:45 pm
Tommy2Tone84 wrote: Sat Jun 14, 2025 6:09 am
Vince Neil Eats wrote: Thu Jun 12, 2025 11:17 pm

White and English was never written or alluded to, although language is important. I love when people miss the point. Your assumptions were way off. Of course this country is built on a sense of diversity. I’m not saying immigrants have to cast away their culture as soon as they step on our shores. That has never happened in the past, nor is it possible. However, there has to be a certain amount of assimilation that takes place in order to respect our societal norms. If you don’t have assimilation you have a country of klans. That creates internal strife and division. There was more of an effort to do that by immigrants in the past. I’m not seeing that as much as I used to. I see it in my line of work. A profession I’ve been in for 23 years. I know people see the “speak English” rhetoric as racist, but the truth is that a common language unites people. Communication is essential to any marriage of groups of people. While our national identify may not be as deep rooted as other nations, we certainly have one. Much of it built on our belief in democracy, western rule of law, the idea of rugged individualism, capitalism.

White and English was never written or alluded to? In what alternate universe are you living in?

Our country was built on stolen land, human trafficking and slave labor.

Canada is much more united than we are currently and they are a bilingual country. Please explain how you reconcile that in your head.

The UK is literally made up of four different countries (England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland) and they are much more united than we are as a country.

Immigrants aren’t our country’s problem and never have been. They’ve only been repeatedly and historically used as a scapegoat. You and I wouldn’t be here without our ancestors immigrating here somehow and somewhere down our familial line.

Eddie Van Halen used to talk about attending grade school in Pasadena. He would get bullied and picked on by the white kids because he couldn’t speak English and was half-Asian. He said a group of black kids in his class always stood up for him and protected him.

Why is it acceptable for Irish Americans to proudly display Irish flags, celebrate and be proud of their Irish heritage but it’s taken as a personal insult and affront by us here in the white community when Mexican Americans do so?

BTW, Vince Neil is Mexican-American, and always was the best and coolest thing about that clown show of a band he is in.
Dude, you are unhinged. I never mentioned anything about flags. Nor did I say immigrants were a problem. You are obviously suffering from a mental illness. The only point I made was that people need to assimilate a certain extent when coming into this country. You took that one point and turned me into some type of white supremacist. I really hope you get some help. If anyone on the board has this person’s personal information please contact him to make sure he doesn’t hurt himself or someone else.
Chill dude, I think he’s fine
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The cucks on this board virtual signaling fron the suburbs is laughable.
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Wild Obsession wrote: Sat Jun 14, 2025 5:21 pm The cucks on this board virtual signaling fron the suburbs is laughable.
Some of the people living in urban areas who think the suburbs look like Levittown in the 1950’s is laughable.
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Vince Neil Eats wrote: Thu Jun 12, 2025 11:17 pm
Metal Sludge wrote: Thu Jun 12, 2025 6:47 pm
Vince Neil Eats wrote: Thu Jun 12, 2025 7:41 am

That’s a whole other issue. From my experience there is a lack of interest in assimilating nowadays. People used to want to come here and fit in. Today they don’t have to because we accommodate everyone. Lack of a national identity destroys countries. We are beginning to see that now.
The US has never had a national identity, we are a melting pot, by definition. You do know what it says on the Statue of Liberty, right?
What national identity are you even talking about? Please answer this question if you answer nothing else!
Why does anyone have to assimilate? Why shouldn't we accommodate everyone?
It would be damn shame if we didn't have a Chinatown in most major cities, or any other ethnic neighborhoods. They are all fabulous!
What would you like the US to be? White and English speaking only?
White and English was never written or alluded to, although language is important. I love when people miss the point. Your assumptions were way off. Of course this country is built on a sense of diversity. I’m not saying immigrants have to cast away their culture as soon as they step on our shores. That has never happened in the past, nor is it possible. However, there has to be a certain amount of assimilation that takes place in order to respect our societal norms. If you don’t have assimilation you have a country of klans. That creates internal strife and division. There was more of an effort to do that by immigrants in the past. I’m not seeing that as much as I used to. I see it in my line of work. A profession I’ve been in for 23 years. I know people see the “speak English” rhetoric as racist, but the truth is that a common language unites people. Communication is essential to any marriage of groups of people. While our national identify may not be as deep rooted as other nations, we certainly have one. Much of it built on our belief in democracy, western rule of law, the idea of rugged individualism, capitalism.
Thanks for answering. I appreciate that.

But I disagree that we have a national identity. And "speak English" is racist rhetoric.
Language is not that important where I live. I don't know where you live, but here it's just not that important. Everyone manages.
For example, I work for a general contractor, and I have worked in the construction industry for 25 years. There are many construction workers that don't speak English, but their foreman does, the company owner does. It all works out.

The restaurant owners maybe don't speak English, but the servers do.

What do you mean by western rule of law? Do you think immigrants are breaking laws?
Do you think our 34 time convicted felon president is not breaking laws every day?
The rule of law is not what it once was, thanks to the orange asshole.
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Wild Obsession wrote: Sat Jun 14, 2025 5:21 pm The cucks on this board virtual signaling fron the suburbs is laughable.
* Use of the term "cuck"
* Use of the term "virtue signalling"
Can't you guys vary the script just a little bit? If you've ever had an original thought, it died a lonely and agonizing death long ago.
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Metal Sludge wrote: Sat Jun 14, 2025 6:34 pm
Vince Neil Eats wrote: Thu Jun 12, 2025 11:17 pm
Metal Sludge wrote: Thu Jun 12, 2025 6:47 pm

The US has never had a national identity, we are a melting pot, by definition. You do know what it says on the Statue of Liberty, right?
What national identity are you even talking about? Please answer this question if you answer nothing else!
Why does anyone have to assimilate? Why shouldn't we accommodate everyone?
It would be damn shame if we didn't have a Chinatown in most major cities, or any other ethnic neighborhoods. They are all fabulous!
What would you like the US to be? White and English speaking only?
White and English was never written or alluded to, although language is important. I love when people miss the point. Your assumptions were way off. Of course this country is built on a sense of diversity. I’m not saying immigrants have to cast away their culture as soon as they step on our shores. That has never happened in the past, nor is it possible. However, there has to be a certain amount of assimilation that takes place in order to respect our societal norms. If you don’t have assimilation you have a country of klans. That creates internal strife and division. There was more of an effort to do that by immigrants in the past. I’m not seeing that as much as I used to. I see it in my line of work. A profession I’ve been in for 23 years. I know people see the “speak English” rhetoric as racist, but the truth is that a common language unites people. Communication is essential to any marriage of groups of people. While our national identify may not be as deep rooted as other nations, we certainly have one. Much of it built on our belief in democracy, western rule of law, the idea of rugged individualism, capitalism.
Thanks for answering. I appreciate that.

But I disagree that we have a national identity. And "speak English" is racist rhetoric.
Language is not that important where I live. I don't know where you live, but here it's just not that important. Everyone manages.
For example, I work for a general contractor, and I have worked in the construction industry for 25 years. There are many construction workers that don't speak English, but their foreman does, the company owner does. It all works out.

The restaurant owners maybe don't speak English, but the servers do.

What do you mean by western rule of law? Do you think immigrants are breaking laws?
Do you think our 34 time convicted felon president is not breaking laws every day?
The rule of law is not what it once was, thanks to the orange asshole.
I just want to get this out of the way. I am not MAGA. Nor am I a Trump supporter. I don’t support people being pulled off job sites or the streets and separated from their families. If you are undocumented and a criminal (and I don’t mean crossing the border without the correct papers), well that’s another story. Neither party has enforced any type of legitimate immigration policy for years. This isn’t the way to start.

I’ve been teaching for years. 23 years. I work in an extremely diverse district in the suburbs. Many of our students are immigrants. I would say about 15%. Not only from Latin America, but from Africa and the Middle East. We have noticed that unlike in the past, our students are not embracing the English language as quickly as they used to. They are living in large communities where they can get by without it. Now, we can sit here and say that other countries speak multiple languages and have been more accommodating. That’s great…but we don’t have a history of really doing that. By not learning the language it’s hindering the progress of these students. Some really bright kids are missing out on great opportunities. It’s a fact…I see it each year. We have a lot of diversity in this country and maybe a weak national identity according to a few people here. In my opinion that’s why it’s important to gravitate toward a BASIC understanding of a common language.

Do I think immigrants are criminals? No! I worked at a recycling plant when I was in HS. 90% of the employees were Latin American immigrants. They were amazing. I wound up having many of their children as students. They demanded that their children learn English as quickly as possible. Working in a recycling plant was the sacrifice they made coming to this country. They wanted their children to have every opportunity that native born Americans had. They believed learning English would accelerate that process.

Yes, I do believe that western rule of law is key to our national identity. I never made the correlation between immigrants and crime. I also never said immigrants were a problem. Immigration law may be a problem, but not immigrants themselves. Rule of law in this country has been crumbling for years. I blame lawmakers for that.

Some people are so quick to assume…thank you for taking the time to be civil and ask what I meant by my words.
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Wild Obsession wrote: Sat Jun 14, 2025 5:21 pm The cucks on this board virtual signaling fron the suburbs is laughable.
I'm sure this was posted from the mean streets of Compton.
veritas wrote: Wed May 21, 2025 3:37 pm Wow, late to this thread, but Sleek is pulling a Moggio here.

It's absolutely idiotic to contend Zep weren't A-listers in the 1970s.
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