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Re: what's next for gnr?

Post by MrRocker » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:47 pm

Retirement hopefully
Sick of this band, over it, done.
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Re: what's next for gnr?

Post by Canadian dirtbag » Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:21 am

Chip Z'Hoy wrote:More touring.

When the well starts running dry, a farewell tour.

No new music.
Unfortunately, this is exactly all we can expect. Axl and Slash haven't co-written a song together since 1990,
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Re: what's next for gnr?

Post by john3232 » Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:38 am

thunderdan wrote:4th highest 2 year tour in history. what's next?

Guess this would depend if Axl and Slash need/want more money.

If Kiss could milk their initial reunion tour for 20 more years then GNR should be able to squeeze in a few more even without new music.
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Post by hairmetalmusic.com » Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:39 am

MrRocker wrote:Retirement hopefully
Sick of this band, over it, done.
Serious question - have you ever considered going into music management? You would no doubt make millions.

MrRocker: "get me the numbers on the latest GnR tour."
Assistant: "Here you go boss. That tour was the fourth largest grossing tour in history. Every show was a sellout, average attendance was 50,000."
MrRocker: "Call Axl and tell him we are dropping the band. I'm tired of a band that hasn't released new material in almost a decade. No songs, no videos - nothing. Just a few tours. Tired of all that. Tell Axl we are releasing them from our contract."
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Re: what's next for gnr?

Post by Rageman » Mon Jan 08, 2018 7:38 am

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MrRocker wrote:Retirement hopefully
Sick of this band, over it, done.
Serious question - have you ever considered going into music management? You would no doubt make millions.

MrRocker: "get me the numbers on the latest GnR tour."
Assistant: "Here you go boss. That tour was the fourth largest grossing tour in history. Every show was a sellout, average attendance was 50,000."
MrRocker: "Call Axl and tell him we are dropping the band. I'm tired of a band that hasn't released new material in almost a decade. No songs, no videos - nothing. Just a few tours. Tired of all that. Tell Axl we are releasing them from our contract."
GNR is one of the most overrated bands in the history of rock. One album that people gave a shit about. One. The rest is a stretch to call mediocre. I've programmed two radio stations, no GNR on either and nobody missed them. No one noticed until after I said it during a mic break after six months on the air.
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Re: what's next for gnr?

Post by BDG135 » Mon Jan 08, 2018 7:54 am

Didn't Axl say he has a bunch of stuff left over from the Chinese Democracy sessions? He could easily have Slash and Duff add on some more tracks. They can put out an EP and be more hip to the times...
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Re: what's next for gnr?

Post by hairmetalmusic.com » Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:33 am

Rageman wrote:
hairmetalmusic.com wrote:
MrRocker wrote:Retirement hopefully
Sick of this band, over it, done.
Serious question - have you ever considered going into music management? You would no doubt make millions.

MrRocker: "get me the numbers on the latest GnR tour."
Assistant: "Here you go boss. That tour was the fourth largest grossing tour in history. Every show was a sellout, average attendance was 50,000."
MrRocker: "Call Axl and tell him we are dropping the band. I'm tired of a band that hasn't released new material in almost a decade. No songs, no videos - nothing. Just a few tours. Tired of all that. Tell Axl we are releasing them from our contract."
GNR is one of the most overrated bands in the history of rock. One album that people gave a shit about. One. The rest is a stretch to call mediocre. I've programmed two radio stations, no GNR on either and nobody missed them. No one noticed until after I said it during a mic break after six months on the air.
Lol.
You clearly don’t have a firm grasp on what the word overrated means. You’ve confused it with “a band I don’t like as much as other people do.”

Illusions both sold more than 20 million copies and occupied the top two spots on billboard - something that hadn’t been done before or since.

November Rain almost has a billion views on YouTube. They have more views than any hard rock band in history.

And they just completed the fourth highest grossing tour in music history.

Lmfao. Truly overrated.

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Re: what's next for gnr?

Post by Rageman » Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:13 am

hairmetalmusic.com wrote:
Rageman wrote:
hairmetalmusic.com wrote: Serious question - have you ever considered going into music management? You would no doubt make millions.

MrRocker: "get me the numbers on the latest GnR tour."
Assistant: "Here you go boss. That tour was the fourth largest grossing tour in history. Every show was a sellout, average attendance was 50,000."
MrRocker: "Call Axl and tell him we are dropping the band. I'm tired of a band that hasn't released new material in almost a decade. No songs, no videos - nothing. Just a few tours. Tired of all that. Tell Axl we are releasing them from our contract."
GNR is one of the most overrated bands in the history of rock. One album that people gave a shit about. One. The rest is a stretch to call mediocre. I've programmed two radio stations, no GNR on either and nobody missed them. No one noticed until after I said it during a mic break after six months on the air.
Lol.
You clearly don’t have a firm grasp on what the word overrated means. You’ve confused it with “a band I don’t like as much as other people do.”

Illusions both sold more than 20 million copies and occupied the top two spots on billboard - something that hadn’t been done before or since.

November Rain almost has a billion views on YouTube. They have more views than any hard rock band in history.

And they just completed the fourth highest grossing tour in music history.

Lmfao. Truly overrated.

This forum is fun to read. But my gosh, there are some stupid fucking people on it.
I agree. There's one douchebag that has a pseudonym of a website that doesn't exist.

You sound like Rothtards circa 2012, you're even cunty like one. Van Halen had a big reunion tour that the tards couldn't shut up about. How did the follow up tour do? Papered to shit, postponed and eventually canceled. But keep dreaming and reaching for those stars, kid. Maybe your facebook page gets all growed up and has a website to call it's own someday.
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Re: what's next for gnr?

Post by Peter Crisp » Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:19 am

They are currently in the studio. Recording.
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Re: what's next for gnr?

Post by Civil_war » Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:52 am

I would absolutely love to hear another album, especially now that Axl seems...happy?

GNR have always been my favorite band. I think they have a lot of good music left in them, and Chinese Democracy, as well as Slash's first solo record prove that (I don't count his stuff with Myles Kennedy, because I can't stand his whiny voice).

With that said, I'm not holding my breath. I waited my whole life for them to reunite. By the time they did, I didn't care as much as I thought I was going to. New music might have enticed me, but I ended up skipping the show. I'd go see them if they released a new album though.
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Re: what's next for gnr?

Post by TenBenny » Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:35 am

Peter Crisp wrote:They are currently in the studio. Recording.
If this is true, good. This thing with Axl milking the live tours is well beyond old already.

I guess I sort of agree with Rageman to a degree. One classic album, two very good ones, one good EP, one solid covers album. Then one very good "comeback" album. Axl has coasted on the early days for a long time. There was virtually no recorded output for 15 years, then an album, then nothing for another 10. I understand saying GN'R is a really good band, or even a great band, but why are these guys treated as legends?
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Re: what's next for gnr?

Post by Lobo » Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:30 pm

I think that they will release new stuff if they come up with something half decent. As has already been mentioned they are raking in the dough while touring. If they can keep the momentum going by coming out with a new album that's good they can make another few hundred million bucks before packing it in.
They are not over the hill age wise at all. Slash played the entire three and a half hour set with no break. Axl's voice suffered a bit during the last leg of the tour but it's good enough to keep going. Duff did just fine as well.
It would be nice if they could bring Izzy into the fold for the new record and tour, I think it would help keep interest in the band at a high level not only for a new album but new tour as well. Nothing hinges on it of course but it would help.
Adler is not required at all, he's also unreliable. No need to risk a big money tour and album on a complete burn out when it's not necessary. Nobody is going to stay away because Adler isn't there.

They can and should continue. The money and fan interest is definitely there.
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Re: what's next for gnr?

Post by BDG135 » Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:43 pm

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Olds_71_442 wrote:Do they play Appetite in it's entirety? If so my piss break would be during Think About You or You're Crazy.
You're Crazy is indeed the weakest song on AFD, but Think About You?? It's in my top 3 on that album. It doesn't sound like two songs in one, just one solid catchy song, and it doesn't have (unironic!) 80s pornstar type moaning in it. Those two things alone make it better than RQ.
The version of "You're Crazy" on Lies blows away the one on Appetite.
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Re: what's next for gnr?

Post by suckit » Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:14 pm

BDG135 wrote:
Love_Industry wrote:
Olds_71_442 wrote:Do they play Appetite in it's entirety? If so my piss break would be during Think About You or You're Crazy.
You're Crazy is indeed the weakest song on AFD, but Think About You?? It's in my top 3 on that album. It doesn't sound like two songs in one, just one solid catchy song, and it doesn't have (unironic!) 80s pornstar type moaning in it. Those two things alone make it better than RQ.
The version of "You're Crazy" on Lies blows away the one on Appetite.
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Re: what's next for gnr?

Post by MattA75 » Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:37 pm

Peter Crisp wrote:They are currently in the studio. Recording.
I've heard it's Slash and the Conspirators, not GNR, that is recording right now

Slash's girlfriend posted as much I thought
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Re: what's next for gnr?

Post by jake » Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:46 pm

TenBenny wrote:
Peter Crisp wrote:They are currently in the studio. Recording.
If this is true, good. This thing with Axl milking the live tours is well beyond old already.

I guess I sort of agree with Rageman to a degree. One classic album, two very good ones, one good EP, one solid covers album. Then one very good "comeback" album. Axl has coasted on the early days for a long time. There was virtually no recorded output for 15 years, then an album, then nothing for another 10. I understand saying GN'R is a really good band, or even a great band, but why are these guys treated as legends?

They are treated like legends due to Axl being a top 5 front man of all time, the same goes for Slash on guitar, IMO. How many front men can actually match the 1988-1993 version of Axl? How many solos fit a song or sound better than the solos In Estranged or November Rain? This of course Is just my opinion, but they never get old, I could listen to the Illusion albums and Appetite for the rest of my life without another release and be satisfied.
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Re: what's next for gnr?

Post by TenBenny » Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:49 pm

jake wrote: They are treated like legends due to Axl being a top 5 front man of all time, the same goes for Slash on guitar, IMO. How many front men can actually match the 1988-1993 version of Axl? How many solos fit a song or sound better than the solos In Estranged or November Rain? This of course Is just my opinion, but they never get old, I could listen to the Illusion albums and Appetite for the rest of my life without another release and be satisfied.
Um... You're kidding, right?
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Re: what's next for gnr?

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TenBenny wrote:
jake wrote: They are treated like legends due to Axl being a top 5 front man of all time, the same goes for Slash on guitar, IMO. How many front men can actually match the 1988-1993 version of Axl? How many solos fit a song or sound better than the solos In Estranged or November Rain? This of course Is just my opinion, but they never get old, I could listen to the Illusion albums and Appetite for the rest of my life without another release and be satisfied.
Um... You're kidding, right?
I am not exactly sure where you are going with this other than to voice your opinion on the fact that you disagree with Axl and Slash being top 5 musicians or "legends"

Who was a better more energetic front man than Axl Rose from 1988-1993? Who played better solos that fit the songs better than Slash? It's nothing more than opinion and there are obviously many that share that opinion as the album sells and tour numbers speak for themselves.

GNR have gone down as one of the greatest Rock N Roll bands of all time and rightfully so.
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Post by TenBenny » Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:07 pm

jake wrote:
TenBenny wrote:
jake wrote: They are treated like legends due to Axl being a top 5 front man of all time, the same goes for Slash on guitar, IMO. How many front men can actually match the 1988-1993 version of Axl? How many solos fit a song or sound better than the solos In Estranged or November Rain? This of course Is just my opinion, but they never get old, I could listen to the Illusion albums and Appetite for the rest of my life without another release and be satisfied.
Um... You're kidding, right?
I am not exactly sure where you are going with this other than to voice your opinion on the fact that you disagree with Axl and Slash being top 5 musicians or "legends"

Who was a better more energetic front man than Axl Rose from 1988-1993? Who played better solos that fit the songs better than Slash? It's nothing more than opinion and there are obviously many that share that opinion as the album sells and tour numbers speak for themselves.

GNR have gone down as one of the greatest Rock N Roll bands of all time and rightfully so.
He was very good to great, when he was *on*. When he wasn't, and when he was tardy and acting like a diva, he wasn't. But does four to five years of very good to great a legend make? Slash was/is great, too, but as an entity, I think this was a case of the legend being built up more than it being a reality. But that's just me. I think the legend status GN'R holds is more smoke and mirrors.
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Re: what's next for gnr?

Post by supertzar7078 » Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:22 pm

They should do another album like GnR Lies, one side acoustic, one side hard rockers. We definitely don't need another double album, esp. if most of it comprises leftovers from Chi Dem.
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Re: what's next for gnr?

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TenBenny wrote:
jake wrote:
TenBenny wrote:
Um... You're kidding, right?
I am not exactly sure where you are going with this other than to voice your opinion on the fact that you disagree with Axl and Slash being top 5 musicians or "legends"

Who was a better more energetic front man than Axl Rose from 1988-1993? Who played better solos that fit the songs better than Slash? It's nothing more than opinion and there are obviously many that share that opinion as the album sells and tour numbers speak for themselves.

GNR have gone down as one of the greatest Rock N Roll bands of all time and rightfully so.
He was very good to great, when he was *on*. When he wasn't, and when he was tardy and acting like a diva, he wasn't. But does four to five years of very good to great a legend make? Slash was/is great, too, but as an entity, I think this was a case of the legend being built up more than it being a reality. But that's just me. I think the legend status GN'R holds is more smoke and mirrors.
I can see your point and can appreciate your opinion. I guess being a teenager and growing up In that particular era, Guns N Roses became our Led Zepplin/Aerosmith. When I think 80's/early 90's, I think GNR. The recent NITL tour actually did far better than I would have expected. I never thought I would see the day Axl and Slash would share the same stage again, let alone fill stadiums.
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Post by jake » Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:31 pm

supertzar7078 wrote:They should do another album like GnR Lies, one side acoustic, one side hard rockers. We definitely don't need another double album, esp. if most of it comprises leftovers from Chi Dem.
I could accept another double album, as long as It has nothing to do with Chinese Democracy. It Is the only GNR album that I no longer own and refuse to purchase another copy of. I have bought Appetite, UYI 1&2, Lies and Live era probably 8-10 times over the years, but Chinese Democracy was one and done.
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Re: what's next for gnr?

Post by TenBenny » Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:54 pm

jake wrote:
TenBenny wrote:
jake wrote:
I am not exactly sure where you are going with this other than to voice your opinion on the fact that you disagree with Axl and Slash being top 5 musicians or "legends"

Who was a better more energetic front man than Axl Rose from 1988-1993? Who played better solos that fit the songs better than Slash? It's nothing more than opinion and there are obviously many that share that opinion as the album sells and tour numbers speak for themselves.

GNR have gone down as one of the greatest Rock N Roll bands of all time and rightfully so.
He was very good to great, when he was *on*. When he wasn't, and when he was tardy and acting like a diva, he wasn't. But does four to five years of very good to great a legend make? Slash was/is great, too, but as an entity, I think this was a case of the legend being built up more than it being a reality. But that's just me. I think the legend status GN'R holds is more smoke and mirrors.
I can see your point and can appreciate your opinion. I guess being a teenager and growing up In that particular era, Guns N Roses became our Led Zepplin/Aerosmith. When I think 80's/early 90's, I think GNR. The recent NITL tour actually did far better than I would have expected. I never thought I would see the day Axl and Slash would share the same stage again, let alone fill stadiums.
That's cool, man. It's all good. I was pretty young, too, so I can certainly appreciate how fantastic these bands and albums seemed to us at that age. I think time has changed my impressions of some of these bands, seeing their careers in a different light, seeing the musicians themselves in a different light. It's kind of amazing to think that GN'R's label and payola and all of that had to break the band. That audiences really weren't into it for a while. Definitely shows you the power of persuasion (marketing), I guess.
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Post by chungasrevenge » Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:56 pm

Live album/DVD from the tour. I can't imagine them spending time writing and recording new material now. More likely that Axl would sing on new AC/DC where Angus just gives him leftovers from Rock Or Bust and all he has to do is write the lyrics and record over a month or so. No way the GNR crew is going to spend the time to write, record and the aggravation of Axl running the show and doing a thousand takes and overdubs for years. Too much pressure to followup the other albums along with length of time. Maybe a couple of tracks behind some reissue or new greatest hits type deal if a farewell happens in 2022 or something.

I wouldn't be surprised to see them package a few more US shows after Europe in late summer to pad the accounts a little more while the operation is still up and running. Maybe more of specialty type shows, Oldchella with Metallica or a few venues like Alpine and Hollywood Bowl.

I could also see Axl disappearing with his money bags along with what he made on AC/DC tour. He could twiddle away for years on solo material and fund it himself at this point. There really isn't much financial incentive after this one going forward. He's 55 now and will be closing in on his 60's by the time they start thinking about a farewell.
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Re: what's next for gnr?

Post by Whitetrashed » Tue Jan 09, 2018 3:11 pm

TenBenny wrote:
jake wrote:
TenBenny wrote:
Um... You're kidding, right?
I am not exactly sure where you are going with this other than to voice your opinion on the fact that you disagree with Axl and Slash being top 5 musicians or "legends"

Who was a better more energetic front man than Axl Rose from 1988-1993? Who played better solos that fit the songs better than Slash? It's nothing more than opinion and there are obviously many that share that opinion as the album sells and tour numbers speak for themselves.

GNR have gone down as one of the greatest Rock N Roll bands of all time and rightfully so.
He was very good to great, when he was *on*. When he wasn't, and when he was tardy and acting like a diva, he wasn't. But does four to five years of very good to great a legend make? Slash was/is great, too, but as an entity, I think this was a case of the legend being built up more than it being a reality. But that's just me. I think the legend status GN'R holds is more smoke and mirrors.
GnR were, for several years, one of the biggest bands on the planet. So big, the only band that couldn't open for them was The Stones. They've since been replaced by Metallica. They were a juggernaught through the Illusions tour, and the wheels started coming off on the Metallica tour. You can't dispute this, the numbers don't lie. They were the biggest thing around for a period, and they will always have that, and it, and their antics like riots and diva status and stories, are what give them legendary status.

Considering what they did back then as "smoke and mirrors" sounds more like sour grapes on your part, than any reflection of the truth.

And, I don't think they can recapture that lightning again. I don't see the point of recording. The relationships and context in which their best material was written hasn't existed for 30 years. Their peak creative years are over. They're on the Greatest Hits treadmill now, and hoping for more is fine, but I'd lower your expectations. Nobody makes money recording anymore, and they make more showing up and playing for 3 hours for the millions of people who never got to see them back in the day - they can milk that crowd for the rest of their lives, like the Stones, if they don't overplay the hand. They don't hang out together offstage, this is not a functioning band.
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Re: what's next for gnr?

Post by Whitetrashed » Tue Jan 09, 2018 3:17 pm

TenBenny wrote:
jake wrote:
TenBenny wrote:
He was very good to great, when he was *on*. When he wasn't, and when he was tardy and acting like a diva, he wasn't. But does four to five years of very good to great a legend make? Slash was/is great, too, but as an entity, I think this was a case of the legend being built up more than it being a reality. But that's just me. I think the legend status GN'R holds is more smoke and mirrors.
I can see your point and can appreciate your opinion. I guess being a teenager and growing up In that particular era, Guns N Roses became our Led Zepplin/Aerosmith. When I think 80's/early 90's, I think GNR. The recent NITL tour actually did far better than I would have expected. I never thought I would see the day Axl and Slash would share the same stage again, let alone fill stadiums.
That's cool, man. It's all good. I was pretty young, too, so I can certainly appreciate how fantastic these bands and albums seemed to us at that age. I think time has changed my impressions of some of these bands, seeing their careers in a different light, seeing the musicians themselves in a different light. It's kind of amazing to think that GN'R's label and payola and all of that had to break the band. That audiences really weren't into it for a while. Definitely shows you the power of persuasion (marketing), I guess.
You're so full of shit you slosh when you take a corner too fast. Marketing? Payolla? The audiences weren't into it for a while? What the fuck drugs are you on? We get it, you don't like GnR, but you're straight up pulling shit straight from your ass now.
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Re: what's next for gnr?

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supertzar7078 wrote:They should do another album like GnR Lies, one side acoustic, one side hard rockers. We definitely don't need another double album, esp. if most of it comprises leftovers from Chi Dem.
Please no.


GnR lies is really not that good. The worst song on Appetite > Any song on Lies.
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Post by TenBenny » Tue Jan 09, 2018 3:54 pm

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TenBenny wrote: That's cool, man. It's all good. I was pretty young, too, so I can certainly appreciate how fantastic these bands and albums seemed to us at that age. I think time has changed my impressions of some of these bands, seeing their careers in a different light, seeing the musicians themselves in a different light. It's kind of amazing to think that GN'R's label and payola and all of that had to break the band. That audiences really weren't into it for a while. Definitely shows you the power of persuasion (marketing), I guess.
You're so full of shit you slosh when you take a corner too fast. Marketing? Payolla? The audiences weren't into it for a while? What the fuck drugs are you on? We get it, you don't like GnR, but you're straight up pulling shit straight from your ass now.
The fuck's gotten into you? It was my understanding that the label called in some heavy favors/muscle to get "Appetite" videos played on MTV. The album came out in '87 and I believe wasn't a massive success until '88.

I could be mistaken, but I don't think I am, at least on the first part. The album and first single were not doing so well in the beginning.

Anyone care to speak to this?
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Re: what's next for gnr?

Post by Chip Z'Hoy » Tue Jan 09, 2018 4:02 pm

TenBenny wrote:It was my understanding that the label called in some heavy favors/muscle to get "Appetite" videos played on MTV.
The story is that Tom Zutaut called in a favor to David Geffen, who asked MTV to air "Jungle." They did, at something like 1 AM, and the switchboard lit up. Nothing about "payola." You're making shit up because there isn't a single topic that you can ignore on these boards. Every thread has to get Lenny'd.
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Re: what's next for gnr?

Post by Whitetrashed » Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:59 pm

TenBenny wrote:
Whitetrashed wrote:
TenBenny wrote: That's cool, man. It's all good. I was pretty young, too, so I can certainly appreciate how fantastic these bands and albums seemed to us at that age. I think time has changed my impressions of some of these bands, seeing their careers in a different light, seeing the musicians themselves in a different light. It's kind of amazing to think that GN'R's label and payola and all of that had to break the band. That audiences really weren't into it for a while. Definitely shows you the power of persuasion (marketing), I guess.
You're so full of shit you slosh when you take a corner too fast. Marketing? Payolla? The audiences weren't into it for a while? What the fuck drugs are you on? We get it, you don't like GnR, but you're straight up pulling shit straight from your ass now.
The fuck's gotten into you? It was my understanding that the label called in some heavy favors/muscle to get "Appetite" videos played on MTV. The album came out in '87 and I believe wasn't a massive success until '88.

I could be mistaken, but I don't think I am, at least on the first part. The album and first single were not doing so well in the beginning.

Anyone care to speak to this?
What's gotten into me? Your mealy-mouthed shitposting. You belong somewhere like 4chan, where you can spew shit like you do.
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