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Have you "made it" if you are only big in Europe and/or Japan?

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If you are big in Japan and/or Europe...

Post by Udo Dirkschneider » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:23 am

But not in the states... have you really "made it"?
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Post by HueyRamone » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:31 am

No. But if you're big in Idaho, then you have in fact made it.


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Post by Hollywood's Burning » Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:26 am

Udo Dirkschneider wrote:But not in the states... have you really "made it"?
Absolutely yes. There's many bands and solo artists who do well and ignore the States completely. It's our own arrogance that says otherwise. All that "I'd you haven't made it in the States, you haven't made it at all" is horseshit at best. .
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Post by SeminiferousButtNoid » Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:53 am

Firehouse pays for their condos and tranny girlfriends by playing to stadiums full of zipperheads in Asia. I'd rather do that than play to 400 American middle-aged fatbodies on a rock cruise
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Post by Fat_Elvis » Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:58 am

SeminiferousButtNoid wrote:Firehouse pays for their condos and tranny girlfriends by playing to stadiums full of zipperheads in Asia. I'd rather do that than play to 400 American middle-aged fatbodies on a rock cruise
You've obviously never been on the MOR Cruise. 400 middle aged fatbodies? Try like 5x that number.
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Post by SeminiferousButtNoid » Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:59 am

Fat_Elvis wrote:
SeminiferousButtNoid wrote:Firehouse pays for their condos and tranny girlfriends by playing to stadiums full of zipperheads in Asia. I'd rather do that than play to 400 American middle-aged fatbodies on a rock cruise
You've obviously never been on the MOR Cruise. 400 middle aged fatbodies? Try like 5x that number.
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Post by StateOfShock » Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:25 am

Hollywood's Burning wrote:
Udo Dirkschneider wrote:But not in the states... have you really "made it"?
Absolutely yes. There's many bands and solo artists who do well and ignore the States completely. It's our own arrogance that says otherwise. All that "I'd you haven't made it in the States, you haven't made it at all" is horseshit at best. .

100% agreed. There is also more money in other countries than ever before as well. So being big in other countries is definitely a success now.

The same thing occurs in the movie industry too. Back in the day, if a movie flopped in the US, it was considered a bomb. There are now movies that flop in the US, but make so much money in the foreign markets, they generate sequels.
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Post by marky-boy2 » Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:50 am

StateOfShock wrote:There is also more money in other countries than ever before as well. So being big in other countries is definitely a success now.
compared to when boyo?
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Post by krisholmes » Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:09 pm

marky-boy2 wrote:
StateOfShock wrote:There is also more money in other countries than ever before as well. So being big in other countries is definitely a success now.
compared to when boyo?

Seventies, first half of the Eighties...
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Post by Tommy2Tone84 » Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:38 pm

Hollywood's Burning wrote:
Udo Dirkschneider wrote:But not in the states... have you really "made it"?
Absolutely yes. There's many bands and solo artists who do well and ignore the States completely. It's our own arrogance that says otherwise. All that "I'd you haven't made it in the States, you haven't made it at all" is horseshit at best. .

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Post by BDG135 » Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:55 pm

If you can earn a living without a side job then that's big to me.
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Post by Traxan » Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:30 pm

Aren't Mr. Big still an arena-level act in Japan?

The two biggest anywhere-but-in-the-US bands I can think of are Nightwish and Arch Enemy. Nightwish are borderline Iron Maiden-big in Europe and South America, not so much Asia. And Arch Enemy are insanely popular in Japan, which is really weird. Why them, of all bands? Mediocre singer and a total waste of the talent of Jeff Loomis.

I don't include Rammstien because let's face it, they filled arenas on their last US tour. MSG sold out in an hour.

And plenty of Japanese bands have had thriving careers without setting foot outside the country. X Japan immediately comes to mind as does Anthem, who I think are better than Loudness. Show-ya, an all girl band, tried to make it in the US, failed miserably, but are still active in Japan even in their mid-50s. And oh man does their singer need to start dressing appropriately for her age.
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Post by dmbrocker » Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:40 pm

Yes, because those are big music markets, but I personally wouldn't mind becoming big in the US and Canada, too.
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Post by Udo Dirkschneider » Thu Mar 22, 2018 10:28 am

My argument is that isn't EVERYONE big in Europe and Asia?

Like, anyone - including the fat bald loser with a wig at my local music store, can go book a tour in Europe and do well.

To me, even though I am Canadian... if you ain't made it in the States... you aint' nothing...

Europe never started the big metal movement of the 70's, 80's, or 90's... AMERICA DID.
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Post by marky-boy2 » Thu Mar 22, 2018 11:57 am

Udo Dirkschneider wrote:My argument is that isn't EVERYONE big in Europe and Asia?

Like, anyone - including the fat bald loser with a wig at my local music store, can go book a tour in Europe and do well.

To me, even though I am Canadian... if you ain't made it in the States... you aint' nothing...

Europe never started the big metal movement of the 70's, 80's, or 90's... AMERICA DID.

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Post by K.K.VanMalmsteen » Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:04 pm

Udo Dirkschneider wrote: Europe never started the big metal movement of the 70's, 80's, or 90's... AMERICA DID.
ummmmmm......ok
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Post by Love_Industry » Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:07 pm

K.K.VanMalmsteen wrote:
Udo Dirkschneider wrote: Europe never started the big metal movement of the 70's, 80's, or 90's... AMERICA DID.
ummmmmm......ok
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The irony of someone named "Udo Dirkschneider" writing that...
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Post by diablomozart » Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:08 pm

Udo Dirkschneider wrote:My argument is that isn't EVERYONE big in Europe and Asia?

Like, anyone - including the fat bald loser with a wig at my local music store, can go book a tour in Europe and do well.

To me, even though I am Canadian... if you ain't made it in the States... you aint' nothing...

Europe never started the big metal movement of the 70's, 80's, or 90's... AMERICA DID.
since when were judas priest, iron maiden and to a lesser extent def leppard considered american? lol...d.m.
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Post by BiggusDickus » Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:25 pm

No, you got to big in Brazil!

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Post by Gazpacho » Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:50 pm

If u have a 4” cock you are “BIG” in Japan.

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Post by TheInfiniteStaircase » Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:04 pm

BDG135 wrote:If you can earn a living without a side job then that's big to me.
Exactly!

These days, if you're paying your bills strictly from playing music, you've made it.
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Post by michelish » Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:55 pm

You have made it when you can pay all your bills and live comfortably on any level by just playing music.
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Post by Rooster » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:05 pm

Seeing as the US doesn't give a shit about rock music anymore, yes.
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Post by Udo Dirkschneider » Fri Mar 23, 2018 7:30 am

I'm right and you are wrong. :D
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Post by WOLF » Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:35 am

Traxan wrote:The two biggest anywhere-but-in-the-US bands I can think of are Nightwish and Arch Enemy.
Sabaton would be a good example as well. They are getting bigger in North America, as they are up to co-headlining theatres, but Europe, and particularly Scandanavia, seem to go apeshit over them.
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