A freind knows Gary Holt, who went (I think) and said they were yelling at each other there! If you have any info, let's hear it.Anthrax442 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 7:19 amYes, AND, apparently KK was a total pain in the ass to deal with at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.Charles Bukaki wrote: ↑Sun Oct 08, 2023 1:05 pmIt's absolutely okay for Glenn to turn up whenever he can, he never left the band like Downing did, he just stepped down from touring. They were very clear about that from the start. Sneap's their producer and fill in guitarist. Maybe they should have asked Downing back, maybe not, but his quitting the band was a completely different circumstance than Tipton being forced to take a backseat because of his health.Ziggy Sawdust wrote: ↑Sun Oct 08, 2023 5:17 am So it’s ok for Glenn to turn up when he feels like but not Ken, but it’s ok for the balding producer to play- who hardly no one knows -growing out what hair he has left? Not buying this album, fuck all this old age- playground bullshit. I’ll stream it at best.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vs-6tVha-pg
The Possessed by Metal guy has heard Panic Attack and gives it a very vivid and detailed description in the video above.
Spoiler: He compares it to the title tracks of Firepower and Painkiller, and also mentions Lightning Strike so you get an idea what kind of song it is.
Guess it's part of the Priest formula, starting with Tyrant and Sinner way back, but those songs haven't been my favorites after Freewheel Burning.
The Possessed by Metal guy has heard Panic Attack and gives it a very vivid and detailed description in the video above.
Spoiler: He compares it to the title tracks of Firepower and Painkiller, and also mentions Lightning Strike so you get an idea what kind of song it is.
Guess it's part of the Priest formula, starting with Tyrant and Sinner way back, but those songs haven't been my favorites after Freewheel Burning.
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You know as much as me. I'm just going based on what was posted here, which was the same story.HueyRamone wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:45 am
A freind knows Gary Holt, who went (I think) and said they were yelling at each other there! If you have any info, let's hear it.
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I could have told you that without even listening to the new song. Same old cliche Painkiller wannabe stuff they’ve done for decades. Talk about being stuck in the same groove. It’s like Maiden rewriting Fear of the Dark for thirty years.Love_Industry wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 11:46 am Spoiler: He compares it to the title tracks of Firepower and Painkiller, and also mentions Lightning Strike so you get an idea what kind of song it is.
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True, until Painkiller they never made the same album twice, not even SFV > DOTF are that close. After that they went full AC/DC. Every album not named Nostradamus sounds more or less like Painkiller.BernieTaupson wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 7:51 pmI could have told you that without even listening to the new song. Same old cliche Painkiller wannabe stuff they’ve done for decades. Talk about being stuck in the same groove. It’s like Maiden rewriting Fear of the Dark for thirty years.Love_Industry wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 11:46 am Spoiler: He compares it to the title tracks of Firepower and Painkiller, and also mentions Lightning Strike so you get an idea what kind of song it is.
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https://streamable.com/1cw3rk?src=player-page-share
Thursday night and the Priest is back - are you ready for some Priest style heavy metal, ready for some British Steel?
Thursday night and the Priest is back - are you ready for some Priest style heavy metal, ready for some British Steel?
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Thank you! If you ever need a kidney or anything, I got your back.Love_Industry wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 11:36 am https://streamable.com/1cw3rk?src=player-page-share
Thursday night and the Priest is back - are you ready for some Priest style heavy metal, ready for some British Steel?
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I really am old
Priest is by far and away my favorite band... and I couldnt even be bothered to listen to the whole thing.
Maybe the quality and lack of innovation of the song has something to do with it?
Priest is by far and away my favorite band... and I couldnt even be bothered to listen to the whole thing.
Maybe the quality and lack of innovation of the song has something to do with it?
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Sounds like a generic "metal" band. The guitars sound like everyone else, the drums sound like everyone else. It's just meh. And I kinda liked the last one
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Re: Judas Priest - New album info leaked? Invincible Shield - March 8, 2024
Maybe. I wasn't too impressed either, but I didn't like the title track and Lightning Strike either and those were the first two tracks we heard off Firepower.HueyRamone wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 2:29 pm I really am old
Priest is by far and away my favorite band... and I couldnt even be bothered to listen to the whole thing.
Maybe the quality and lack of innovation of the song has something to do with it?
There's still hope for the album.
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Agreed. Nothing to get excited about.Dyslexicheart wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 5:57 pm Sounds like a generic "metal" band. The guitars sound like everyone else, the drums sound like everyone else. It's just meh. And I kinda liked the last one
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Maybe I'm just weird, but I thought Redeemer of Souls and Firepower were both fantastic, and if the rest of the album sounds like Panic Attack, I'm all in.
If you compare the last 5 Judas Priest albums to the last 5 Iron Maiden albums, the only time Priest came out worse was with Nostradamus, and even then, A Matter of Life and Death wasn't much better.
If you compare the last 5 Judas Priest albums to the last 5 Iron Maiden albums, the only time Priest came out worse was with Nostradamus, and even then, A Matter of Life and Death wasn't much better.
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Overall, I like it. 8 out of 10. The intro is unnecessarily long and doesn't grab your attention, and the song would be better off without 2 bridges. But it has a Painkiller feel, Rob Halford sounds better than I expected and the guitars and drums sound really good. Had they simplified this song and cut it to 3 minutes, it would've been better.
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Intro was the best part about it! Rest was paint by numbers Painkiller stuff, who needs that.
No way Glenn played either of those solos either, he can barely play the riff to Breakin The Law now, poor bastard.
No way Glenn played either of those solos either, he can barely play the riff to Breakin The Law now, poor bastard.
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I thought it was pretty great. It could use a good edit though.
Kk Clone and Sneap have been good.
Kk Clone and Sneap have been good.
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The music is what I would expect from a new Priest song...bit lyrics are HORRENDOUS...
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In a world of glam, where the glamsters unite,
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Re: Judas Priest - New album info leaked? Invincible Shield - March 8, 2024
Those lyrics are probably not Priest's, more like Artificial Stupidity.
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Partial track listing based on pics on various sites.
Panic Attack
The Serpent and the King
Invincible Shield
Devil In Disguise
Gates of Hell
As God Is My Witness
Panic Attack
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Re: Judas Priest - New album info leaked? Invincible Shield - March 8, 2024
Does anyone here understand why Priest seems to think Painkiller is their best and most popular album ever?
Every new album they seem to want to re-create it.
Reality is Painkiller did not sell well at all and mostly was an attempt to sound like the metal bands that were becoming popular then. To me it just sounded like German power metal and all their new albums do too.
Wish theyd stick to their original sound where every album was different, but original.
Every new album they seem to want to re-create it.
Reality is Painkiller did not sell well at all and mostly was an attempt to sound like the metal bands that were becoming popular then. To me it just sounded like German power metal and all their new albums do too.
Wish theyd stick to their original sound where every album was different, but original.
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Seems silly to release info when it’s 6 months away from release
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Ya, that is so far off. I guess they felt like Power Trip was a good place to announce it, but 6 months away is an eternity. How could they have artwork and all the songs with titles written, but still be that far away from release. In the old days I'll bet in 6 months time they could go from having absolutely nothing written to a complete album out on the shelves.Ziggy Sawdust wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 12:34 am Seems silly to release info when it’s 6 months away from release
All that being said...God bless these gentlemen for still putting out metal music. It's a shame Glenn & K.K. aren't the guitarists any longer. They were a legendary combination. Faulkner is as good a replacement as they could've found though. Since Ritchie he is George Lynch's son in law it's too bad they couldn't get Lynch in there instead of Sneap.
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Painkiller bombed commercially and barely sold more than Ram It Down, but it was much better received by fans and at least the first part of the tour was well attended. Then I think the addition of Scott Travis may have something to do with it, I think he's boring and the wrong drummer for Priest, but the band seems to love playing with him and the drum intro to Painkiller is the most iconic part on that album.El Vampiro Blanco wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 12:24 am Does anyone here understand why Priest seems to think Painkiller is their best and most popular album ever?
Every new album they seem to want to re-create it.
Reality is Painkiller did not sell well at all and mostly was an attempt to sound like the metal bands that were becoming popular then. To me it just sounded like German power metal and all their new albums do too.
Wish theyd stick to their original sound where every album was different, but original.
Trivia: Les Binks, Dave Holland and Scott Travis all got a drum intro to kick off the first song on their first studio album with Priest. Binks - Exciter on Stained Class, Holland - Rapid Fire on British Steel and Travis - Painkiller. Some 80s vinyls have Breaking the Law as the first song on BS, but the 1st pressing and the CD has Rapid Fire....
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My thought exactly...their 70s material was so diverse and interesting (music and lyrics)...then they just fell into that 'metal' groove and just stayed there...up through Defenders i think they had some really interesting songs (and hit and miss). Then the Turbo turd...then as someone pointed out, Rob just started writing in the 'Metal God' character from RID on...El Vampiro Blanco wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 12:24 am Does anyone here understand why Priest seems to think Painkiller is their best and most popular album ever?
Every new album they seem to want to re-create it.
Reality is Painkiller did not sell well at all and mostly was an attempt to sound like the metal bands that were becoming popular then. To me it just sounded like German power metal and all their new albums do too.
Wish theyd stick to their original sound where every album was different, but original.
And I was excited when KK was going to release the first KK's Priest album....when I heard Les was drumming, I thought it was a perfect opportunity to come out with something more diverse like Stained Class with more classic rock/early metal feeling songs...but...no...he is basically milking the Painkiller formula because he things that's what true metal fans want....
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I sort of think that for current Priest- the Painkiller formula is actually the way to go, in a way. At least for the lead off single. They dont want to be seen as old and crusty, unable to keep up with the youngs.
Other than that, it's a bit unfair to say they just always do Painkiller now. Firepower (the song) is like that, sure, but Never the Heroes wasnt. Rising From Ruins wasnt, others on there, too. While they werent throwbacks to british steel, they also werent blazing and overly heavy. (KKs priest, IS all Painkiller/Jugulator etc, tho)
As far as Painkiller not doing more than Ram it Down, there's another way to look at it. Yes, album sales didnt improve much (and prolly caused Rob to pack it in), but if they'd done another generic RID, they prolly woulda gone to 250K sales. Just keeping the machine moving at gold when the scene was changing more and more is decent, you can always go less.
I think the tour did good, too. The staging was great, compared to RID. It was Operation RnR that suffered, not the Painkiller tour. Arena I went to was packed and the fans were going cray. Not sure how it was elsewhere.
Finally, apart from sales, there is value to releasing a product that is critically praised and fan praised. Painkiller has a following and legacy that dwarfs RID.
Other than that, it's a bit unfair to say they just always do Painkiller now. Firepower (the song) is like that, sure, but Never the Heroes wasnt. Rising From Ruins wasnt, others on there, too. While they werent throwbacks to british steel, they also werent blazing and overly heavy. (KKs priest, IS all Painkiller/Jugulator etc, tho)
As far as Painkiller not doing more than Ram it Down, there's another way to look at it. Yes, album sales didnt improve much (and prolly caused Rob to pack it in), but if they'd done another generic RID, they prolly woulda gone to 250K sales. Just keeping the machine moving at gold when the scene was changing more and more is decent, you can always go less.
I think the tour did good, too. The staging was great, compared to RID. It was Operation RnR that suffered, not the Painkiller tour. Arena I went to was packed and the fans were going cray. Not sure how it was elsewhere.
Finally, apart from sales, there is value to releasing a product that is critically praised and fan praised. Painkiller has a following and legacy that dwarfs RID.
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SFV is their highest selling album (four times what Painkiller did). They should replicate that, not the braindead thrash wannabe stuff on Painkiller. Hate Scott Travis’ playing as well.
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Also, SFV is more timeless. Painkiller sounded dated already when it came out, it was such an obvious attempt to follow Metallica and even more so bands like Testament and Overkill who were expected to be the next big thing in 1990. Grunge destroyed hair metal, but it derailed thrash just as much or maybe more. Metallica and Megadeth's 90s success makes it less obvious, but their big albums came out just before peak grunge and kept selling mostly thanks to hit ballads. Foreclosure of a Dream may be forgotten now but it was Megadeth's first US charting single hitting #30, just one position below the "big hit" the title track from Countdown to Extinction.BernieTaupson wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:57 pm SFV is their highest selling album (four times what Painkiller did). They should replicate that, not the braindead thrash wannabe stuff on Painkiller. Hate Scott Travis’ playing as well.
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Painkiller is what Revenge and COS was to KISS and No Prayer for the Dying was to Maiden. A desperate attempt at remaining relevant. And the rapper on the first song of Black Sabbath Forbidden.
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haha, I'm listening to Ice-T as I read this!BernieTaupson wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:15 am And the rapper on the first song of Black Sabbath Forbidden.
Re: Judas Priest - New album info leaked? Invincible Shield - March 8, 2024
BIG difference: in 2023 Painkiller is viewed as one of Priest's classics, while your other examples never feature in the top lists.BernieTaupson wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:15 am Painkiller is what Revenge and COS was to KISS and No Prayer for the Dying was to Maiden. A desperate attempt at remaining relevant. And the rapper on the first song of Black Sabbath Forbidden.
LastFM has it just behind British Steel steel as the most popular album.
https://www.last.fm/music/Judas+Priest/ ... st_popular