Guess who doesn't like ADKOT?

[Bono Nettencourt]

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[dmbrocker]

Shocking. You'd think Dave would enjoy hearing himself go "Tattoo! Tattoo!" for nearly 5 minutes straight.

[Newsted's FU Money]

No shit. suckit, you already shared this under your other nym.

[SchenkerFan]

Better than any post-Skyscraper DLR album.

[BernieTaupson]

Better than any post-Skyscraper DLR album.

Not exactly a high bar there.

[Whatever Happened To…]

Good example. All bands who erroneously released albums beyond their heyday should do this. The Dolls, The Stooges etc, just take that shit down and pretend they never happened.

[BernieTaupson]

So delete all the Hagar albums too?

[Whatever Happened To…]

So delete all the Hagar albums too?

All Roth after Skyscraper and all Van Hagar can go in the bin, and we can all forget about the VH reunion which was, let's be honest it, depressing as hell.

[DonJuanDeMarco]

Good example. All bands who erroneously released albums beyond their heyday should do this. The Dolls, The Stooges etc, just take that shit down and pretend they never happened.

Are we finally being honest?

I actually liked and was really impressed with the New York Dolls album (the one with the pink background) but I don't think I've listened to it since the day I bought it!

And my first opinion of ADKOT... I actually liked Tattoo. Reminded me a bit of Sensible Shoes which happens to be my favorite DLR song. And I liked Stay Frosty because it reminded me of Ice Cream Man.

There were a couple of lyrics that I love ("Some days you're the dog. Some days you're the hydrant" is gold) but the album production is all wrong. WAY too much distortion and compression. They just hit it way too hard. It doesn't breathe like classic VH records. And it was pretty obvious that Dave was in an isolation booth. It didn't feel like a true band record. LOVE the energy on the album though. They are playing their asses off. I just would've preferred a classic sound.

[Love_Industry]

the album production is all wrong. WAY too much distortion and compression. They just hit it way too hard. It doesn't breathe like classic VH records. And it was pretty obvious that Dave was in an isolation booth. It didn't feel like a true band record. LOVE the energy on the album though. They are playing their asses off. I just would've preferred a classic sound.

Couldn't have said it better. The songs and playing is good but listening to ADKOT all the way through just makes me tired. Listening to any of the first six albums makes me energized. Some of the best produced hard rock albums.

ADKOT could have been the same as the songs aren't that different. But the production is very much 2012, dated instead of timeless. Just googled John Shanks and he seems quite disliked on the Bon Jovi boards - he produced a couple of their later albums and plays live with BJ.

[FreddyFender]

Roth accepted the Wolf/Mikey situation because he realized he wasn't getting back in the band otherwise, but in hindsight I'm sure he has the same feelings most fans have: Van Halen is Eddie, Alex, David, and Mikey.

Going from 3/4ths of the classic lineup to during the brief Sammy reunion to..... 3/4ths of the classic lineup when Roth rejoined was stupid. A total missed opportunity.

I'm sure Roth's opinion of the album has less to do with who is on bass and more to do with the fact that it's not the band that took over the world... it's the Van Halen Family Band feat. DLR.

Eddie. Alex. David. Mikey. Accept no substitutes.

[Bono Nettencourt]

And after the 2012 tour it was never heard again.

[TheCULTofMANSON]

So delete all the Hagar albums too?

All Roth after Skyscraper and all Van Hagar can go in the bin, and we can all forget about the VH reunion which was, let's be honest it, depressing as hell.

Whatever, van hagar was great too, just different. Also, the reunion was fantastic until the last tour

[ParaDime77]

There is no way Wolf would have any say or creative control over ADKOT at any facet. I highly doubt the Eddie Van Halen Estate had Wolfie listed as any sort of executor of Van Halen music.

As much as this as this entitled asshat despises the VH nod, he surely loves to gripe openly about the bands business.

[SchenkerFan]

Good example. All bands who erroneously released albums beyond their heyday should do this. The Dolls, The Stooges etc, just take that shit down and pretend they never happened.

Metallica should cancel half their discography in that case.

[Anthrax442]

There is no way Wolf would have any say or creative control over ADKOT at any facet. I highly doubt the Eddie Van Halen Estate had Wolfie listed as any sort of executor of Van Halen music.

As much as this as this entitled asshat despises the VH nod, he surely loves to gripe openly about the bands business.

He was asked a direct question by Trunk, and he did his best to avoid calling out DLR.

Personally, I'm annoyed, because I like ADKOT very much, and I missed the boat on the vinyl version, which is now like $400. If they were to figure this shit out, it would open the door to re-release it, like they just did for Balance.

Not sure why I'm surprised though. This band hasn't been able to do anything right for over 30 years, why the hell should they start now?

[Fletch]

Kind of surprised Dave doesn’t like it. It’s got his fingerprints all over it. That’s the best albums worth of music DLR has been involved with since 1986

[SchenkerFan]

Kind of surprised Dave doesn’t like it. It’s got his fingerprints all over it. That’s the best albums worth of music DLR has been involved with since 1986

Technically, a lot of it was pre-1986.

[Whatever Happened To…]

Good example. All bands who erroneously released albums beyond their heyday should do this. The Dolls, The Stooges etc, just take that shit down and pretend they never happened.

Metallica should cancel half their discography in that case.

Half is being generous. They have, what, five, six, decent songs? The rest, complete waste of time.

[TheCULTofMANSON]

Kind of surprised Dave doesn’t like it. It’s got his fingerprints all over it. That’s the best albums worth of music DLR has been involved with since 1986

Agreed

[Ziggy Sawdust]

Roth accepted the Wolf/Mikey situation because he realized he wasn't getting back in the band otherwise, but in hindsight I'm sure he has the same feelings most fans have: Van Halen is Eddie, Alex, David, and Mikey.

Going from 3/4ths of the classic lineup to during the brief Sammy reunion to..... 3/4ths of the classic lineup when Roth rejoined was stupid. A total missed opportunity.

I'm sure Roth's opinion of the album has less to do with who is on bass and more to do with the fact that it's not the band that took over the world... it's the Van Halen Family Band feat. DLR.

Eddie. Alex. David. Mikey. Accept no substitutes.

Mike must have really pissed off the brothers for some reason.

[TheCULTofMANSON]

Roth accepted the Wolf/Mikey situation because he realized he wasn't getting back in the band otherwise, but in hindsight I'm sure he has the same feelings most fans have: Van Halen is Eddie, Alex, David, and Mikey.

Going from 3/4ths of the classic lineup to during the brief Sammy reunion to..... 3/4ths of the classic lineup when Roth rejoined was stupid. A total missed opportunity.

I'm sure Roth's opinion of the album has less to do with who is on bass and more to do with the fact that it's not the band that took over the world... it's the Van Halen Family Band feat. DLR.

Eddie. Alex. David. Mikey. Accept no substitutes.

Mike must have really pissed off the brothers for some reason.

I think maybe from playing with Sammy’s projects as well as Eddie wanting to play with his son

[daveg]

So....are we all just believing Wolfat here???

Why would DLR allow the live album to be streamed.

Makes no sene to me. I highly doubt Dave cares about that petty BS. Now Alex on the other hand....I can see being pissed about something, and just saying F it. Take it off.

This seems to me, Wolfie just being a prick. He probably has no idea why it is not on Spotity

[Kerry67]

Roth accepted the Wolf/Mikey situation because he realized he wasn't getting back in the band otherwise, but in hindsight I'm sure he has the same feelings most fans have: Van Halen is Eddie, Alex, David, and Mikey.

Going from 3/4ths of the classic lineup to during the brief Sammy reunion to..... 3/4ths of the classic lineup when Roth rejoined was stupid. A total missed opportunity.

I'm sure Roth's opinion of the album has less to do with who is on bass and more to do with the fact that it's not the band that took over the world... it's the Van Halen Family Band feat. DLR.

Eddie. Alex. David. Mikey. Accept no substitutes.

This 100%

[Anthrax442]

So....are we all just believing Wolfat here???

Why would DLR allow the live album to be streamed.

Makes no sene to me. I highly doubt Dave cares about that petty BS. Now Alex on the other hand....I can see being pissed about something, and just saying F it. Take it off.

This seems to me, Wolfie just being a prick. He probably has no idea why it is not on Spotity

Totally different situation. Tokyo Dome was done via Warner Brothers, so it lives with all the rest of their catalog, so Dave would have no say in the matter. A Different Kind of Truth was a one off with Interscope before they re-signed with Warner, and they specifically did it as a 10 year deal, in case they did decide to re-sign with Warner, that they'd be able to re-release it through them.

It's not just streaming, ADKOT is completely out of print/deleted on the physical side too, until VH gets their shit together, which at this rate, might be never, this album simply doesn't exist unless you have a copy already.

[Indy_Rob]

I've always liked the album. And I'm glad I still buy CDs. Physical media is still relevant.

[BDG135]

Did Wolfie get writing credit for those songs?

[Anthrax442]

Did Wolfie get writing credit for those songs?

Just checked the liner notes, writing to all songs is credited to Van Halen/Roth. Now, whether "Van Halen" includes Wolf, who the fuck knows?

[BDG135]

Did Wolfie get writing credit for those songs?

Just checked the liner notes, writing to all songs is credited to Van Halen/Roth. Now, whether "Van Halen" includes Wolf, who the fuck knows?

It wouldn't surprise me if Eddie insisted Wolfie gets publishing too.

[JizzySynatra]

Not sure how Roth gets the call on that. Yeah, the production isn't my favorite but the album was way better then I expected. I'd understand if they wanted to remove that Roth live album, but this makes little sense.