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Between "Now & Then" and "Angry"... the Beatles and the Rolling Stones are putting out the best new music of 2023.
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I dig it.
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Meh -
John Lennon’s solo demo has some sweet ideas but as with much of his solo work , is morose and dirge like in tempo.
NOT AT ALL the uplifting power & life of the four Beatles and if this was a fans tape , McCartney wouldn’t give it such consideration. His love for John overrides all in this case.

I find the song below the standards of some of Paul’s solo work of the past 30 years AND John Lennon never intended this to be released.

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Average Beatles song, more of a curiosity or an experiment to piece it together with technology. Interesting, but certainly not essential.

The new Stones album though, it's a banger!
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Dyslexicheart wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 11:08 am Average Beatles song, more of a curiosity or an experiment to piece it together with technology. Interesting, but certainly not essential.

The new Stones album though, it's a banger!
This pretty much sums it up. Cool to hear and will probably grow on me over time, but definitely not essential.
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Terrible. And I love Lennon's solo stuff.
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As George said, it’s just a crap track. It’s not a song, it’s half an idea of a song. There were way better demos that came out on the JL Anthology that they could have worked with.
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I’ll take what I can get from The Beatles … love it.
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Huge Beatles fan. I didn’t hate it like I figured I would. Almost like the Beatles doing latter-day Pink Floyd. Unfortunately it’s as half-baked as most of John’s solo stuff. Paul need to sweeten it up a bit with a better chorus or a bit of added melody. It’s Ike Floyd with only Dave or only Roger. Their contrast always made for the best material. I do like it better than the “new” anthology songs.
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Meh.
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mfgtr wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 10:57 am Meh -
John Lennon’s solo demo has some sweet ideas but as with much of his solo work , is morose and dirge like in tempo.
I love how dark and sad the original demo is. They didn't do the song any favors IMO, It's too upbeat, and bloated, also Paul's modern day voice is rough.
The Beatles subreddit is full of people in tears over it, so I guess I'm in the minority lol.
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The fact that I just heard a new Beatles song for the first time was a pleasant surprise, however, it didn't do much for me. Also not a fan of piecing things together. I am old school with musicians writing music together, especially The Beatles. The magic was John & Paul sitting in a room together.
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Just saw the video for this and oof, the editing in They All Lie And Cheat was better. It looks unbelievably shit. Awful.
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Dyslexicheart wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 11:08 am Average Beatles song, more of a curiosity or an experiment to piece it together with technology. Interesting, but certainly not essential.

The new Stones album though, it's a banger!
Agreed. I was pretty excited to give it a listen but I found it repetitive and it completely lacking any hook. Not a bad piece of music but when I compare it to their body of work, it was just ok.
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Stuck it on and forgot about it immediately until I realised Apple Music had been playing Beatles radio for 2 songs.

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I'm a huge Beatles fan, they were my first favourite band, and I'm really digging this song.

However:
Darrien wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 3:02 am I love how dark and sad the original demo is.
I agree with this, I think I'd have prefered if the song had kept its more melancolic vibe.

Still, great stuff nonetheless.
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I love it... they didn't disappoint.

It's a nice fitting coda to the best band there ever was or will be.
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A beautifully simple lyric. "Now and then I miss you."

That kind of thing will punch you in the gut at just the right moment. Especially with the right amount of whiskey.
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NeonKnite wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 3:51 am It's a nice fitting coda to the best band there ever was or will be.

I agree. It's not meant to top the charts, sell a tour or anchor a new greatest hits. I prefer this over "Free As a Bird/Real Love" - and those "new" songs are now 28 years old, which is crazy.

The sentiment is there. And it's the Beatles. They really changed the world. I fear they'll get lost in time in a bit. AI is going to generate new "Beatles" songs and successive generations won't know the difference.
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Mister Freeze wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:25 am
NeonKnite wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 3:51 am It's a nice fitting coda to the best band there ever was or will be.

I agree. It's not meant to top the charts, sell a tour or anchor a new greatest hits. I prefer this over "Free As a Bird/Real Love" - and those "new" songs are now 28 years old, which is crazy.

The sentiment is there. And it's the Beatles. They really changed the world. I fear they'll get lost in time in a bit. AI is going to generate new "Beatles" songs and successive generations won't know the difference.
It's a bookend, which is why it's paired with "Love Me Do,' the band's first release.
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It's no Monkeys "That Was Then, This Is Now"........

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That Monkees song was a cover, The Mosquitos did it originally the year before.

It only had two of them on it, Nesmith didn’t give a fuck and Davy refused to do it because he wanted more money. He used to leave the stage on the 86 tour in protest because he wanted absolutely nothing to do with it.
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Today at work they had on the Sirius channel the Blend and they played it! I was very surprised!
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Another song I look forward to not listening to.

And don't diss the Monkees!
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SeniorGrande wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 11:04 am
And don't diss the Monkees!
Even if they deserve it?
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No love for Davy coming back from the dead with Neil Diamond's Love To Love? https://youtu.be/9w1SYiyUzcA?si=tOj1HVDg0y0ebeVy
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Solo Beatles stuff can be sketchy. This is a demo that Lennon didn't feel was good enough to make into a real song so he gave it to McCartney, and it shows.

Terrible song, terrible idea to bring it back to life in 2023.

These fuckers are LEGENDARY. They should just continue to do their own thing and keep The Beatles name in the past where it belongs.
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