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So these aren’t ABBA avatars? These are just cartoons on a movie screen?
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nosell wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2023 9:44 am This at the end will be downgraded to a 1 time streaming event thing, and then will be shown everyday in the background of their mini golf place, Folowwed by their scooby doo cartoon.
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Young people may love it though, cartoon KISS instead of old KISS may be exactly what they want … young people are weird.
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I look forward to the thread showing the losers who pay to meet four digital puppets.
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I wasn't aware of the ABBA Voyage or whatever it is. I watched a couple clips on YT, and to me, it looked pretty real.
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Mister Freeze wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2023 8:28 am Even during their grand finale, these guys are incapable of having a genuine, sentimental moment with the audience.

I've seen this tour 3 or 4 times now. I feel like I've been duped enough. I didn't go. The one thing that would've made me want to go is if there was a sincere "thank you for 50 amazing years" tribute but as expected that didn't happen.

Even at Motley's fake last show, the only sentimental moment was before Home Sweet Home, Vince shed a tear and said "I'm gonna miss you fuckers"...

Comedian Ron White had a sincere goodbye when he retired...but of course he's back out of retirement now.

So I guess there is no real retirement until they are gone.
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TooOldToCare wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2023 2:05 pm I wasn't aware of the ABBA Voyage or whatever it is. I watched a couple clips on YT, and to me, it looked pretty real.
Think of a trailer park-ish cartoon version.
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I'm looking forward to the meet and greet pics. I am 100% convinced this will go the way of many KISS endeavors nowhere. It's not going to be the next era of KISS. I'm not convinced we'll see more than what happened at MSG last night. It'll die before whatever is supposed to happen with it.
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Jason Jennifer Leigh wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:15 am So these aren’t ABBA avatars? These are just cartoons on a movie screen?
Well, the Abba avatars cost a lot of money and needed expensive technology.

KISS just put on the Guitar Hero Mo-cap suits and did some guitar hero moves.
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TooOldToCare wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2023 2:46 pm I'm looking forward to the meet and greet pics. I am 100% convinced this will go the way of many KISS endeavors nowhere. It's not going to be the next era of KISS. I'm not convinced we'll see more than what happened at MSG last night. It'll die before whatever is supposed to happen with it.
As familiar characters, are they on the level of Superman, Batman, etc., or are they more on the level of Ronald McDonald and The Energizer Bunny?
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This is a bigger wet fart than their Dubai show was.

Avatar’s!?

At the end of the show when the members ascended to the rafters and disappeared, it was the perfect time for for younger members to come down as the touring replacements for the brand. These old queens managed to fuck this up per usual.
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Turner Coates wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2023 2:58 pm
TooOldToCare wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2023 2:46 pm I'm looking forward to the meet and greet pics. I am 100% convinced this will go the way of many KISS endeavors nowhere. It's not going to be the next era of KISS. I'm not convinced we'll see more than what happened at MSG last night. It'll die before whatever is supposed to happen with it.
As familiar characters, are they on the level of Superman, Batman, etc., or are they more on the level of Ronald McDonald and The Energizer Bunny?
The general (non-fan) public might recognize the images as "some rock band", but I think they fall below the Energizer Bunny or Geico Gecko.
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ParaDime77 wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:13 pm
At the end of the show when the members ascended to the rafters and disappeared, it was the perfect time for for younger members to come down as the touring replacements for the brand. These old queens managed to fuck this up per usual.
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HueyRamone wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 10:15 pm
Zabooka wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:29 pm KISS - A New Era Begins
VIDEO - https://youtu.be/Yl5PGoy5X6g
Oh, great! Glad the avatars are of old man Kiss instead of the classic era, and includes Paul screaming about nonsense.
Don't really care about these avatars, but doing 70s KISS would have made a lot more sense. Paul and Gene are adamant this current line up of KISS is the best, which is laughable really.

This thing will bomb worse than the 3D show they did with Psycho Circus.
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Anyone remember KISS World? That's what I thought.
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DonJuanDeMarco wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2023 2:14 pm
Mister Freeze wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2023 8:28 am Even during their grand finale, these guys are incapable of having a genuine, sentimental moment with the audience.

I've seen this tour 3 or 4 times now. I feel like I've been duped enough. I didn't go. The one thing that would've made me want to go is if there was a sincere "thank you for 50 amazing years" tribute but as expected that didn't happen.

Funny enough, the very last thing they left their audience was a QR code on the screen, taking them to a webpage for "access to the new era."

It's the most KISS thing they could possibly do. The fans are customers 'til the end. And beyond.
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This whole idea is bad and dumb. The avatars look like low-poly video game characters that are already two hardware generations behind the times.

Also, by using motion capture to record the movements of 70-year-old men, you're guaranteeing that the avatars will always move like 70-year-old men. And if you hire younger actors and motion-capture them instead, you end up with that creepy Dio hologram
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Demon Kogure wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2023 6:22 pm Also, by using motion capture to record the movements of 70-year-old men, you're guaranteeing that the avatars will always move like 70-year-old men.
This. They seem quite sure that people enjoy the Kurrent Kiss the most out of all eras.

And this shit didnt take off, so why would the new version of it?
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Demon Kogure wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2023 6:22 pm This whole idea is bad and dumb. The avatars look like low-poly video game characters that are already two hardware generations behind the times.

Also, by using motion capture to record the movements of 70-year-old men, you're guaranteeing that the avatars will always move like 70-year-old men. And if you hire younger actors and motion-capture them instead, you end up with that creepy Dio hologram
Like CGI DeNiro beating the shit out of the grocer in The Irishman, they can make him look younger in post-production but they can't hide the stiff movement of a guy in his seventies...
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The idea could have been cool. But they made themselves look like Spawn characters like those lame McFarlane figures that came out 25 years ago. NOBODY wants that crap except KISS themselves. The fans want a rock band like KISS was in the 70's. I am 56 years old and have been a fan since 1976 and I hate this crap.
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HueyRamone wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2023 2:51 pm
Jason Jennifer Leigh wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:15 am So these aren’t ABBA avatars? These are just cartoons on a movie screen?
Well, the Abba avatars cost a lot of money and needed expensive technology.

KISS just put on the Guitar Hero Mo-cap suits and did some guitar hero moves.
Yeah, ABBA even built a new custom designed arena in London to make it come alive.
KISS does not have that kind of budget, although I did read that the ABBA production company was involved in some way in the KISStards.....I guess that's the new name for these, KISStards
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LAglamrocker wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2023 8:53 am I like this Kiss
Stupid old fans can’t handle this ..cry cry cry
Trust me. Nobody is crying.

We're just laughing as this clusterfuck of insanity.

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Additional avatar footage was revealed. It looks so cool.

https://youtu.be/Acv2tqmJ2Mo?si=r5FzVWd68teE-l_G&t=75
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Jason Jennifer Leigh wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:20 am Young people may love it though, cartoon KISS instead of old KISS may be exactly what they want … young people are weird.
Young people don't care about KISS.
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The 100th thought I had on this subject is why the Mo-cap suits. This is animation. It seems like animators could create this without the involvement of the band. It isn't like Guardians of the Galaxy, where Rocket has to exist in the world of actual living beings and look legit. Is using the suits to capture the motion less laborious than animating it from scratch? I believe I answered my own question.
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TooOldToCare wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 7:28 am The 100th thought I had on this subject is why the Mo-cap suits. This is animation. It seems like animators could create this without the involvement of the band. It isn't like Guardians of the Galaxy, where Rocket has to exist in the world of actual living beings and look legit. Is using the suits to capture the motion less laborious than animating it from scratch? I believe I answered my own question.
It's just an easy way of getting them to animate. It looks futuristic, but it's just what Guitar hero used in 2008.
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HueyRamone wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 7:38 am
TooOldToCare wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 7:28 am The 100th thought I had on this subject is why the Mo-cap suits. This is animation. It seems like animators could create this without the involvement of the band. It isn't like Guardians of the Galaxy, where Rocket has to exist in the world of actual living beings and look legit. Is using the suits to capture the motion less laborious than animating it from scratch? I believe I answered my own question.
It's just an easy way of getting them to animate. It looks futuristic, but it's just what Guitar hero used in 2008.
Gotcha. I swear, after stumbling upon the KISS Immortals video above, they just used that and repackaged it.
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Kerry67 wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:42 am The idea could have been cool. But they made themselves look like Spawn characters like those lame McFarlane figures that came out 25 years ago. NOBODY wants that crap except KISS themselves. The fans want a rock band like KISS was in the 70's. I am 56 years old and have been a fan since 1976 and I hate this crap.

What Gene and Paul see when they think of KISS...

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What everyone else sees when they think of KISS...



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