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When the British came to liberate the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp, the prisoners were in disbelief because they assumed the Nazis won and the rest of the world was dead. It was the only way they could rationalize nobody coming to save them.

Ged told this story to Neil Peart, who wrote "Red Sector A" about it:
Are we the last ones left alive?
Are we the only human beings to survive?

Great book! But holy cow, Chapter 3 is BRUTAL.
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Oh, and once free, they went back to their homes just to have the current residents treat them with hostility, like "You're not going to want your houses back, are you?"
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Chip Z'Hoy wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 8:26 pm Oh, and once free, they went back to their homes just to have the current residents treat them with hostility, like "You're not going to want your houses back, are you?"
And getting back taxes and fines for not paying their taxes whilst being murdered away in a concentration camp.
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El Vampiro Blanco wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 1:48 am
Chip Z'Hoy wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 8:26 pm Oh, and once free, they went back to their homes just to have the current residents treat them with hostility, like "You're not going to want your houses back, are you?"
And getting back taxes and fines for not paying their taxes whilst being murdered away in a concentration camp.
Yeah, but at least they could get back to controlling the world and organising the Great Replacement. :wink:
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El Vampiro Blanco wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 1:48 am
Chip Z'Hoy wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 8:26 pm Oh, and once free, they went back to their homes just to have the current residents treat them with hostility, like "You're not going to want your houses back, are you?"
And getting back taxes and fines for not paying their taxes whilst being murdered away in a concentration camp.
Welcome to communism.

To be fair I assume the "current residents" weren't those who took the houses from the Auschwitz survivors. The usual after the war was that the Communist governments handed out houses left by escaping or killed Nazis.
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Love_Industry wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 4:05 am
El Vampiro Blanco wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 1:48 am
Chip Z'Hoy wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 8:26 pm Oh, and once free, they went back to their homes just to have the current residents treat them with hostility, like "You're not going to want your houses back, are you?"
And getting back taxes and fines for not paying their taxes whilst being murdered away in a concentration camp.
Welcome to communism.

To be fair I assume the "current residents" weren't those who took the houses from the Auschwitz survivors. The usual after the war was that the Communist governments handed out houses left by escaping or killed Nazis.
This was in the netherlands, not in a communist country...
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El Vampiro Blanco wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 5:36 am
Love_Industry wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 4:05 am
El Vampiro Blanco wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 1:48 am

And getting back taxes and fines for not paying their taxes whilst being murdered away in a concentration camp.
Welcome to communism.

To be fair I assume the "current residents" weren't those who took the houses from the Auschwitz survivors. The usual after the war was that the Communist governments handed out houses left by escaping or killed Nazis.
This was in the netherlands, not in a communist country...
But... but... but... they have national health care, which is the same as Communism, libtard. :lol:
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Danzig in the Dark wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 6:07 am
El Vampiro Blanco wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 5:36 am
Love_Industry wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 4:05 am

Welcome to communism.

To be fair I assume the "current residents" weren't those who took the houses from the Auschwitz survivors. The usual after the war was that the Communist governments handed out houses left by escaping or killed Nazis.
This was in the netherlands, not in a communist country...
But... but... but... they have national health care, which is the same as Communism, libtard. :lol:
We don't have national health care.
We do have mandatory health insurance though, which then because everyone has to sign up (to whichever health insurance company you want) drives down the price of the insurance.
I pay 140 euro a month, which I understand is a steal compared to US health insurance prices.
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Danzig in the Dark wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 6:07 am
El Vampiro Blanco wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 5:36 am
Love_Industry wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 4:05 am

Welcome to communism.

To be fair I assume the "current residents" weren't those who took the houses from the Auschwitz survivors. The usual after the war was that the Communist governments handed out houses left by escaping or killed Nazis.
This was in the netherlands, not in a communist country...
But... but... but... they have national health care, which is the same as Communism, libtard. :lol:
But... but... but... it isn't the same as Communism. Not even remotely close.
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CrankerBait wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 6:29 am
Danzig in the Dark wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 6:07 am
El Vampiro Blanco wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 5:36 am

This was in the netherlands, not in a communist country...
But... but... but... they have national health care, which is the same as Communism, libtard. :lol:
But... but... but... it isn't the same as Communism. Not even remotely close.
It's not even surprising anymore how many can't make the distinction.
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El Vampiro Blanco wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 5:36 am
Love_Industry wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 4:05 am
Welcome to communism.

To be fair I assume the "current residents" weren't those who took the houses from the Auschwitz survivors. The usual after the war was that the Communist governments handed out houses left by escaping or killed Nazis.
This was in the netherlands, not in a communist country...
Ah ok. Geddy has Polish background so I assumed that he wrote about Poland or somewhere east of the postwar border like Ukraine or Lithuania.
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I liked his book, although i have to confess that as it progressed he seemed, well, more "bitchy" than i would have thought. More a function of just how Canadian nice he comes off in public, so I was surprised by his capacity of grudges, being a bit dictatorial in studio, etc.
The drug stuff really surprised me, especially the cocaine on stage.
But, overall, a really good book, and showed him to be a thoughtful guy.

The holocaust stuff was "tough," although if you've read Night or any other holocaust book, it was not particularly shocking -- but still unreal that it happened.
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I thought it was a great book. That chapter was brutal to read and he told it like it should of been told.

On a bright note I really dug the story of him and his wife vacationing somewhere nice and running into Robert Plant.

And I don’t get the surprise about the drug taking. Really these guys were singing about trees in the 70’s.
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eddie lee roth wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 9:10 am

And I don’t get the surprise about the drug taking. Really these guys were singing about trees in the 70’s.

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El Vampiro Blanco wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 6:13 am
Danzig in the Dark wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 6:07 am
El Vampiro Blanco wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 5:36 am

This was in the netherlands, not in a communist country...
But... but... but... they have national health care, which is the same as Communism, libtard. :lol:
We don't have national health care.
We do have mandatory health insurance though, which then because everyone has to sign up (to whichever health insurance company you want) drives down the price of the insurance.
I pay 140 euro a month, which I understand is a steal compared to US health insurance prices.

Omg and you still have your freedom?

I was coming of age politically speaking during the era when Obama was trying to get the individual mandate passed (originally conceptualized in America by Republican think tank the Heritage Foundation) along with a national public option to increase competition and further drive down costs, and it’s amazing how such a simple and common-sense concept as you explained here was successfully peddled as the death knell of freedom over here.
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Love_Industry wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 4:05 am
El Vampiro Blanco wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 1:48 am
Chip Z'Hoy wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 8:26 pm Oh, and once free, they went back to their homes just to have the current residents treat them with hostility, like "You're not going to want your houses back, are you?"
And getting back taxes and fines for not paying their taxes whilst being murdered away in a concentration camp.
Welcome to communism.

To be fair I assume the "current residents" weren't those who took the houses from the Auschwitz survivors. The usual after the war was that the Communist governments handed out houses left by escaping or killed Nazis.
This has nothing to do with Communism. It seems like that word has just become some sort of generic slur. I saw a clip of a crazy lady who started calling the other person a "Communist", and it had nothing to do with what they were fighting about. The dumbing-down of America continues.
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El Vampiro Blanco wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 6:13 am
Danzig in the Dark wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 6:07 am
El Vampiro Blanco wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 5:36 am

This was in the netherlands, not in a communist country...
But... but... but... they have national health care, which is the same as Communism, libtard. :lol:
We don't have national health care.
We do have mandatory health insurance though, which then because everyone has to sign up (to whichever health insurance company you want) drives down the price of the insurance.
I pay 140 euro a month, which I understand is a steal compared to US health insurance prices.
I'm in Canada and pay.... nothing. And that's with four doctor's appointments in the last couple months and some treatment. Lucky us.
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Dyslexicheart wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 4:03 pm
Love_Industry wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 4:05 am
El Vampiro Blanco wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 1:48 am

And getting back taxes and fines for not paying their taxes whilst being murdered away in a concentration camp.
Welcome to communism.

To be fair I assume the "current residents" weren't those who took the houses from the Auschwitz survivors. The usual after the war was that the Communist governments handed out houses left by escaping or killed Nazis.
This has nothing to do with Communism. It seems like that word has just become some sort of generic slur. I saw a clip of a crazy lady who started calling the other person a "Communist", and it had nothing to do with what they were fighting about. The dumbing-down of America continues.
Fail. I was born in a Communist country and my comment was based on real life cases I am familiar with.
That said, you have a point that "Communist" is used as a generic slur for things that sometimes have nothing to do with Communism or Communist governments.
Universal healthcare is less Communist than say tax funded state monopoly on police.
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Dyslexicheart wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 4:07 pm
El Vampiro Blanco wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 6:13 am
We do have mandatory health insurance though, which then because everyone has to sign up (to whichever health insurance company you want) drives down the price of the insurance.
I pay 140 euro a month, which I understand is a steal compared to US health insurance prices.
I'm in Canada and pay.... nothing. And that's with four doctor's appointments in the last couple months and some treatment. Lucky us.
Good. In Sweden it's subsidized, with a co-payment that is just big enough to keep the poorest out but barely noticeable for the middle class.
You also have a 5-6 year difference in life expectancy between low and high income areas in Stockholm and up to 10 compared to some of the the poorest rural municipalities.
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Love_Industry wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 4:05 am
El Vampiro Blanco wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 1:48 am
Chip Z'Hoy wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 8:26 pm Oh, and once free, they went back to their homes just to have the current residents treat them with hostility, like "You're not going to want your houses back, are you?"
And getting back taxes and fines for not paying their taxes whilst being murdered away in a concentration camp.
Welcome to communism.

To be fair I assume the "current residents" weren't those who took the houses from the Auschwitz survivors. The usual after the war was that the Communist governments handed out houses left by escaping or killed Nazis.
fucking idiot, that's capitalism :lol:
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Chip Z'Hoy wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 8:22 pm When the British came to liberate the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp, the prisoners were in disbelief because they assumed the Nazis won and the rest of the world was dead. It was the only way they could rationalize nobody coming to save them.

Ged told this story to Neil Peart, who wrote "Red Sector A" about it:
Are we the last ones left alive?
Are we the only human beings to survive?

Great book! But holy cow, Chapter 3 is BRUTAL.
Not sure it is a true story though.
These camps received new prisoners all the time, so they would have told the others there was still a war.
Population in Bergen Belsen especially exploded in the last year of the war, because the Nazi's started moving prisoners from the camps in the east to there, because the Russians were advancing.
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grishnak boss wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 8:18 pm
Love_Industry wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 4:05 am
El Vampiro Blanco wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 1:48 am

And getting back taxes and fines for not paying their taxes whilst being murdered away in a concentration camp.
Welcome to communism.

To be fair I assume the "current residents" weren't those who took the houses from the Auschwitz survivors. The usual after the war was that the Communist governments handed out houses left by escaping or killed Nazis.
fucking idiot, that's capitalism :lol:
Capitalism would be hunting down the Nazis so they could pay market rate rent for the time they lived in the survivors' houses. With interest. Have you never played Monopoly?
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