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Good stuff. He actually sounds less nuts than usual here.
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NOT GOOD
NOT GOOD
NOT GOOD

Man, this band's dysfunction stinks like shit over any legacy or current public perception of them.
They cant get ONE FUCKING THING together that makes them look cool AT ALL and this shit sure don't help.

Meanwhile Vince Neil and Tommy Thayer both woke up this morning 100% able and ready to lessen the impact of Rock music even further.

EVH R.I.P.
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Fatburger Halen the best!
I was at that show- got in free
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mfgtr wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 11:21 am NOT GOOD
NOT GOOD
NOT GOOD

Man, this band's dysfunction stinks like shit over any legacy or current public perception of them.
They cant get ONE FUCKING THING together that makes them look cool AT ALL and this shit sure don't help.

Meanwhile Vince Neil and Tommy Thayer both woke up this morning 100% able and ready to lessen the impact of Rock music even further.

EVH R.I.P.
In the course of a week, DLR has talked shit about Valerie, the entire Bertinelli family, Alex, and now Wolfgang. And the part where DLR interviews God at the beginning of that video is mocking Wolfgang saying that his last name is an hinderance, so this video was done within the last few days.

I think the more interesting story is not what Dave has said about them, but why Dave is saying all this now. Perhaps he just got tired of being painted as the difficult one and wanted to show that's not the case. Maybe it's a financial issue within the band. Whatever it is, he has an agenda. And while it's LOL material for Sludge and Van Halen boards, it's also just sad that Dave and Sammy, two senior citizens, are both just yelling at clouds. It's not doing the legacy of Van Halen any favors and is just lame. The Van Halen fans I know are over the negativity and just want to celebrate the band, not be reminded that they're all a bunch of fucking 70 year old children.
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LitaStrauss wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 12:06 pm

In the course of a week, DLR has talked shit about Valerie, the entire Bertinelli family, Alex, and now Wolfgang. I think the more interesting story is not what Dave has said about them, but why Dave is saying all this now. Perhaps he just got tired of being painted as the difficult one and wanted to show that's not the case. Whatever it is, he has an agenda. And while it's LOL material for Sludge and Van Halen boards, it's also just sad that Dave and Sammy, two senior citizens, are both just yelling at clouds. It's not doing the legacy of Van Halen any favors and is just lame.
Wait, what did he say about Valerie and Alex? I saw the thing that he said about Sammy.
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Anthrax442 wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 12:13 pm
LitaStrauss wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 12:06 pm

In the course of a week, DLR has talked shit about Valerie, the entire Bertinelli family, Alex, and now Wolfgang. I think the more interesting story is not what Dave has said about them, but why Dave is saying all this now. Perhaps he just got tired of being painted as the difficult one and wanted to show that's not the case. Whatever it is, he has an agenda. And while it's LOL material for Sludge and Van Halen boards, it's also just sad that Dave and Sammy, two senior citizens, are both just yelling at clouds. It's not doing the legacy of Van Halen any favors and is just lame.
Wait, what did he say about Valerie and Alex? I saw the thing that he said about Sammy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH29LFIFC_k - Ballad Of Popsicle Sammy

It's a longer video that's a bit of a chore to get through but there are lots of nuggets in it:

DLR says Sam was raped by aliens (basically), which is why he's the way he is. He mentions that Alex is a drunk bully a few times and said that Eddie would tell him, "Dave I fucking hate my brother. It's why I fucking drink." He talked about how much Alex would drink in the studio. He said during Eddie's wedding that they both him and Ed hated the entire Bertinelli family. Then at the end he mentions that Eddie called him and said that Valerie found a VHS tape and that she was gonna divorce him, and she did. She took his money and kid and left him broke. He said "In a declaration of some evangelical type 1930s fucking hate, she and her lawyers beat the shit out of that kid. She fucked him out of everything. And I’m gonna tell ya, she left him flat, and penniless. The great Van Halen. Had to go borrow a million dollars and do the unimaginable, he was compelled, yes, he had to call me." That part is towards the end of the video at around 22:25.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAc77wBcZ2k - The Sportsmen's Lodge
There's also a followup video called "The Sportsmen's Lodge" where he talks about how he met his 2nd wife Janie, who was a porn publicist, and kind of goes over that period of time where Eddie was really fucked up. DLR has a million stories about himself so it's interesting that he's bringing up a story that really doesn't have to do with him.
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Blabbermouth did God's work and has a transcript of the video about Wolfgang.
https://blabbermouth.net/news/david-lee ... s-fing-kid

David Lee Roth has blasted Wolfgang Van Halen for allegedly "throwing out" some of the singer's invited guests at a couple of the concerts during VAN HALEN's final tour.

In a video posted to YouTube titled "This Crazy Kid.." (originally titled "This Fucking Kid" before being changed, presumably in an effort to make it more YouTube-friendly),Roth recalled the alleged incidents, saying in part (as transcribed by BLABBERMOUTH.NET): "This fucking kid, he's complaining the entire tour like I'm not paying enough attention to him on stage. Like Santa Claus coming down the chimney and popping out on Christmas with nobody paying attention. Shalom to the dome, homie. I'm giving him the best. Everything I've got in front of twenty, thirty thousand people at a clip, and he's complaining to everybody around me — the business manager, the security guy, the clothing lady — 'Dave's not paying enough attention to me.' Cut to New York City — glamorous, glistening, shimmering New York City, and we're at Jones Beach with twenty thousand of my closest friends. I walk out into the middle of the stage and I'm gonna do 'Ice Cream Man', and I'm testifying to the brothers, Eddie [Van Halen] and Al [Alex Van Halen], 'Man, this is how many times we've played New York. This is spectacular.' And what I don't know is this kid, this schlemiel kid, has commandeered a couple of monkeys to go in back, behind my back, over to the side of the stage and throw out these two great dames that I invited to be my guests to the show. And these dames are in their forties, okay? Business women. In fact, you aren't gonna believe this shit. This fucking kid, what he doesn't know is that these two dames work for the accounting firm that represent him, not me. But as usual, he, just like his uncle and his uncle's brother, stiffed them for tickets. I know they're gonna do that, so I got ahead of things and I give them tickets. I put 'em way off to the side. And I'm not talking about MÖTLEY CRÜE groupies here. This is the real deal. And they're both carrying big satchel purses, right? Like Gucci. Here we go. And he throws them out of the building. He's teaching me a lesson. What this fucking kid doesn't know, they're carrying the paychecks for all 82 people on the road crew. Nobody tells me till I'm parked in the middle of that fuckin bridge... You know fuckin' Jones Beach, they think I'm gonna freak out. I laughed so hard I spilled my Snapple."

Roth continued: "Cut to Hollywood — that's Gooey Ballyhooey Hollywood. We're playing the Hollywood Bowl [in October 2015]. It's the last two shows of the tour, and Ed's not having a good day this year. So I know, hey, maybe, I always gotta play it like what if this was the last show I ever have with the brothers. This is important to me. We're celebrating fiftieth anniversary here from when we first started arguing over which song is first. Stay focused. The brothers are playing. I walk out on stage at the Hollywood Bowl. This is the very last show that we're playing. And I start getting tears in my eyes 'cause I testify to Ed and I testify to Al that, 'Hey, we started right down the street at a little nightclub called Gazzarri's. We were playing dance tunes and our parents didn't give us shit. We made every penny go right into the gas tank or on to the guitar strings fretboard. Okay, here we go.' We're at the Hollywood Bowl. I'm about to launch into 'Ice Cream Man', and this fuckin kid! He commandeers two muscle monkeys, locates the one dame that is my guest; she's off in the wings of the Hollywood Bowl. They find her, make her do the walk of shame past all the other guests, out into the parking lot and throw her out of the building! Wolfie Van Halen's gonna teach me a lesson by throwing out what he thinks is my girlfriend. But guess what? Not only is this an accountant again, and not only is she carrying the paychecks for 82 of us on the road crew, but she's carrying cash bonuses for everybody there. You may wanna pull over on this next one; you're gonna pee your pants. Remember New York City? It's the same fuckin lady!"

Roth added: "This fucking kid. This fucking kid!

"And that's how I remember my last show with Eddie Van Halen."
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LitaStrauss wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 12:33 pm Blabbermouth did God's work and has a transcript of the video about Wolfgang.
https://blabbermouth.net/news/david-lee ... s-fing-kid

David Lee Roth has blasted Wolfgang Van Halen for allegedly "throwing out" some of the singer's invited guests at a couple of the concerts during VAN HALEN's final tour.

In a video posted to YouTube titled "This Crazy Kid.." (originally titled "This Fucking Kid" before being changed, presumably in an effort to make it more YouTube-friendly),Roth recalled the alleged incidents, saying in part (as transcribed by BLABBERMOUTH.NET): "This fucking kid, he's complaining the entire tour like I'm not paying enough attention to him on stage. Like Santa Claus coming down the chimney and popping out on Christmas with nobody paying attention. Shalom to the dome, homie. I'm giving him the best. Everything I've got in front of twenty, thirty thousand people at a clip, and he's complaining to everybody around me — the business manager, the security guy, the clothing lady — 'Dave's not paying enough attention to me.' Cut to New York City — glamorous, glistening, shimmering New York City, and we're at Jones Beach with twenty thousand of my closest friends. I walk out into the middle of the stage and I'm gonna do 'Ice Cream Man', and I'm testifying to the brothers, Eddie [Van Halen] and Al [Alex Van Halen], 'Man, this is how many times we've played New York. This is spectacular.' And what I don't know is this kid, this schlemiel kid, has commandeered a couple of monkeys to go in back, behind my back, over to the side of the stage and throw out these two great dames that I invited to be my guests to the show. And these dames are in their forties, okay? Business women. In fact, you aren't gonna believe this shit. This fucking kid, what he doesn't know is that these two dames work for the accounting firm that represent him, not me. But as usual, he, just like his uncle and his uncle's brother, stiffed them for tickets. I know they're gonna do that, so I got ahead of things and I give them tickets. I put 'em way off to the side. And I'm not talking about MÖTLEY CRÜE groupies here. This is the real deal. And they're both carrying big satchel purses, right? Like Gucci. Here we go. And he throws them out of the building. He's teaching me a lesson. What this fucking kid doesn't know, they're carrying the paychecks for all 82 people on the road crew. Nobody tells me till I'm parked in the middle of that fuckin bridge... You know fuckin' Jones Beach, they think I'm gonna freak out. I laughed so hard I spilled my Snapple."

Roth continued: "Cut to Hollywood — that's Gooey Ballyhooey Hollywood. We're playing the Hollywood Bowl [in October 2015]. It's the last two shows of the tour, and Ed's not having a good day this year. So I know, hey, maybe, I always gotta play it like what if this was the last show I ever have with the brothers. This is important to me. We're celebrating fiftieth anniversary here from when we first started arguing over which song is first. Stay focused. The brothers are playing. I walk out on stage at the Hollywood Bowl. This is the very last show that we're playing. And I start getting tears in my eyes 'cause I testify to Ed and I testify to Al that, 'Hey, we started right down the street at a little nightclub called Gazzarri's. We were playing dance tunes and our parents didn't give us shit. We made every penny go right into the gas tank or on to the guitar strings fretboard. Okay, here we go.' We're at the Hollywood Bowl. I'm about to launch into 'Ice Cream Man', and this fuckin kid! He commandeers two muscle monkeys, locates the one dame that is my guest; she's off in the wings of the Hollywood Bowl. They find her, make her do the walk of shame past all the other guests, out into the parking lot and throw her out of the building! Wolfie Van Halen's gonna teach me a lesson by throwing out what he thinks is my girlfriend. But guess what? Not only is this an accountant again, and not only is she carrying the paychecks for 82 of us on the road crew, but she's carrying cash bonuses for everybody there. You may wanna pull over on this next one; you're gonna pee your pants. Remember New York City? It's the same fuckin lady!"

Roth added: "This fucking kid. This fucking kid!

"And that's how I remember my last show with Eddie Van Halen."
Good Lord...where's Stevie when you need him...oh right, he's on tour in Thailand or whatever. :D :D :D
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It's making its way around the web.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/musi ... 234953442/
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LitaStrauss wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 1:23 pm It's making its way around the web.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/musi ... 234953442/
Wolfgang is going to be binging on Wendy's before he has his meltdown on Twitter.
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Sounds like the entire band was a bunch of fuck ups.
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I will be the first one to say Roth is nuts, and he's been annoying and then-some for a few decades, at least for me sadly!

But... make no mistake, in any interview I have ever done, regardless whether it was 1988, 2001 or 2023, I have ALWAYS championed David Lee Roth,

In addition to Roth, I have said the same about Vince Neil and Stephen Pearcy, as those guys, are my BIG 3. They gave me the kick in my shorts to do what I set out to do, to chase that rock singer road... and I have followed through to the best of my abilities for 40 years to the very date (come March 8th of this year / 1984-2024).

Also.. let me state, I have said almost from the start, from Day 1... that this Wolfgang guy is a silver spoon fed spoiled brat, who was handed everything from birth, right up until last night... and all day today the same.

Nothing was earned... not a F#@king thing... other than his ability to play his instruments... kudos and respect for that... but this is not about skill or ability, but rather, the person and their output!

To all of those who have stood up and boasted about his "talent" and the rest, bitch please! This guy wouldn't get a second look if that last name was anything other than!

And this is not a dig at his lack of ability to control himself in the kitchen or drive-thru... nope... I have plenty of Fat, or shall we say over-weight friends... and some skinny ones too.

Nope, this is about the person, the human, the entitled miserable self-loathing (Fat) guy who has lashed out at anyone who doesn't fit into his narrative.

With that... what Roth is talking about here, happened 15+ years ago,,, when Wolfgang was a teenager... one can only imagine what happens behind closed doors today, or that is not seen, not heard, or not known by all the adoring Van Halen fanboys who are still grasping for a connection to the chosen one's off-spring.

I love Van Halen, and have all the respect in the world for their history, the players, the music and this includes the Van Hagar years... but Eddie's kid is a huge (pun intended) Cu#t, and I won't ever change my stance.

I said it before, and stand by it... and what Roth has unloaded here, is just more evidence of exactly that!

Bravo Dave...

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kytepunches wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 10:30 am Good stuff. He actually sounds less nuts than usual here.
"""""""""""Good stuff. He actually sounds less nuts than usual here.""""""""""""

This x1m!

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MetalSludgeCEO wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 5:09 pm
I will be the first one to say Roth is nuts, and he's been annoying and then-some for a few decades, at least for me sadly!

But... make no mistake, in any interview I have ever done, regardless whether it was 1988, 2001, or 2023, I have ALWAYS championed David Lee Roth,

In addition to Roth, I have said the same with Vince Neil and Stephen Pearcy, as those guys, are my BIG 3. They gave me the kick in my shorts to do what I set out to do, to chase that rock singer road... and I have followed through to the best of my abilities for 40 years to the very date (come March 8th of this year / 1984-2024).

Also.. let me state, I have said almost from the start, from Day 1... that this Wolfgang guy is a silver spoon fed spoiled brat, who was handed everything from birth, right up until last night wherever he played at.

Nothing was earned... other than his ability to play his instruments, kudos and respect for that... but this is not about skill or ability, but rather, the person and their output!

To all of those who have stood up and boasted about his "talent" and the rest, bitch please! The guy wouldn't get a second look if that last name was anything other than!

And this is not a dig at his lack of ability to control himself in the kitchen or drive-thru... nope... I have plenty of Fat, or shall we say over-weight friends... and some skinny ones too.

Nope, this is about the person, the human, the entitled miserable self-loathing (Fat) guy who has lashed out at anyone who doesn't fit into his little world.

With that... what Roth is talking about here, happened 15+ years ago,,, when Wolfgang was a teen... one can only imagine what happens behind closed doors today, or that is not seen, not heard, or not known by all the adoring Van Halen fanboys who are still grasping for a connection to the chosen one's off-spring.

I love Van Halen, and have all the respect in the world for their history, the players, the music and this includes the Van Hagar years... but Eddie's kid is a huge (pun intended) Cu#t, and I won't ever change my stance.

I said it before, and stand by it... and what Roth has unloaded here, is just more evidence of exactly that!

Bravo Dave...

$tEvil
What Dave is talking about didn't happen 15+ years ago at all, it happened just over 8 years ago. The last Van Halen tour was 2015 and it happened during that run. The last show at the Hollywood Bowl was on October 4, 2015.
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No way in hell Wolfgang keeps his mouth shut about this. I can’t wait for the response. This can quite possibly put the Bobby Blotzer Ratt shenanigans to shame as far as Sludge goes.
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LitaStrauss wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 5:25 pm
MetalSludgeCEO wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 5:09 pm
I will be the first one to say Roth is nuts, and he's been annoying and then-some for a few decades, at least for me sadly!

But... make no mistake, in any interview I have ever done, regardless whether it was 1988, 2001, or 2023, I have ALWAYS championed David Lee Roth,

In addition to Roth, I have said the same with Vince Neil and Stephen Pearcy, as those guys, are my BIG 3. They gave me the kick in my shorts to do what I set out to do, to chase that rock singer road... and I have followed through to the best of my abilities for 40 years to the very date (come March 8th of this year / 1984-2024).

Also.. let me state, I have said almost from the start, from Day 1... that this Wolfgang guy is a silver spoon fed spoiled brat, who was handed everything from birth, right up until last night wherever he played at.

Nothing was earned... other than his ability to play his instruments, kudos and respect for that... but this is not about skill or ability, but rather, the person and their output!

To all of those who have stood up and boasted about his "talent" and the rest, bitch please! The guy wouldn't get a second look if that last name was anything other than!

And this is not a dig at his lack of ability to control himself in the kitchen or drive-thru... nope... I have plenty of Fat, or shall we say over-weight friends... and some skinny ones too.

Nope, this is about the person, the human, the entitled miserable self-loathing (Fat) guy who has lashed out at anyone who doesn't fit into his little world.

With that... what Roth is talking about here, happened 15+ years ago,,, when Wolfgang was a teen... one can only imagine what happens behind closed doors today, or that is not seen, not heard, or not known by all the adoring Van Halen fanboys who are still grasping for a connection to the chosen one's off-spring.

I love Van Halen, and have all the respect in the world for their history, the players, the music and this includes the Van Hagar years... but Eddie's kid is a huge (pun intended) Cu#t, and I won't ever change my stance.

I said it before, and stand by it... and what Roth has unloaded here, is just more evidence of exactly that!

Bravo Dave...

$tEvil
What Dave is talking about didn't happen 15+ years ago at all, it happened just over 8 years ago. The last Van Halen tour was 2015 and it happened during that run. The last show at the Hollywood Bowl was on October 4, 2015.

Last week, last year, 8 years ago or 15 years ago... it's all the same!

I stand corrected... but that won't change my stance!

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This line had me 💀

“ Ed's not having a good day this year.”


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This line had me 💀

“ Ed's not having a good day this year.”


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I Like this Dave, let's keep this version around until the end of the year at a minimum.

This is some hilarious sludge, popsicle Sammy and that f*ing kid, I'm laughing my ass off just thinking about it hours/days later!!
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Reminder of what that fuckin’ kid looked like in 2015 :

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Picturing Newman Van Halen kicking people out is even funnier.
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I'm just amazed when Wolf orders guests rejected from the premises who were invited by DLR himself, they are not like, maybe get the ok from diamond Dave first.
Was he that low on the totem pole?
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2012 Wolfnuts for comparison... man, he literally doubled in size in 3 years.

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El Vampiro Blanco wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 11:25 pm I'm just amazed when Wolf orders guests rejected from the premises who were invited by DLR himself, they are not like, maybe get the ok from diamond Dave first.
Wolfie likes to throw his weight around.

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Story checks out, guy who runs VHlinks :

I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again. All of us from the several sites who got to see Van Halen in 2012 at those amazing shows I will always be grateful for, were all guests of David Lee Roth. The Van Halen family did nothing for any of us. Just remember that when you think Dave is the bad guy in all this stuff, or the stingy one. And I believe every word he said.

And not only that…but the amount of times that Dave’s liaison came up to us to see how we were doing, and were we enjoying the show, was amazing. I mean we were fucking nobodies, and she treated us like we really mattered. It was pretty cool. She was the nicest person. So that’s what matters to Dave apparently.

And when I did the meet and greet thing with the band in 1995, as I’ve also said before MANY times…who was the one guy in the band who seemed put out and bothered by the whole thing? Of course…Al. Sam and Mike were ridiculously nice, and even Ed was super nice with his trademark smile. I didn’t even waste my time wandering near Al because I could see he was annoyed by all of us. So I didn’t even shake his hand, and that was fine with me. Frankly, I didn’t give two shits about meeting Al anyway, I was there to meet the King. At least Al put on a fake smile for the picture so he didn’t ruin that.

But Wolfgang clearly has inherited the family genes when it comes to how to treat the fans. Or at least he’s got his uncle’s ideas of how the fans should be treated. Like dog shit. Unless of course he needs to promote something and needs Van Halen fans to buy his albums.
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Re: Roth trolls Wolfgut Van Halen

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Metal Judge wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 4:20 pm Sounds like the entire band was a bunch of fuck ups.
More like half.
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Re: Roth trolls Wolfgut Van Halen

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BernieTaupson wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 6:21 am Story checks out, guy who runs VHlinks :
WOW. Is that not the site which is the unofficial/official website for VH. Says a lot if they are talking about Karen Von Karen like that.

Seems him saying he is doing it all on his own is what finally pissed off the VH community.
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