Slaughter Stick It To Ya amazing drum sound

[MattleyCrue]

The drums sound awesome on this!

Do you think so also?

[Indy_Rob]

Yes! But the rumor, at least here on Sludge, is that the whole album was recorded with a drum machine.

[MattleyCrue]

Yes! But the rumor, at least here on Sludge, is that the whole album was recorded with a drum machine.

Wow! I didn’t know that! Blas is an awesome drummer tho!

[Indy_Rob]

Yes! But the rumor, at least here on Sludge, is that the whole album was recorded with a drum machine.

Wow! I didn’t know that! Blas is an awesome drummer tho!

Agreed! Great drummer. No idea why they might've made the drum machine decision (if it's even true).

[War_in_D]

The production took a major shit on the follow up.

[blackedout85]

It was all programmed, but yes, the production on that album is amazing

[MattleyCrue]

So basically someone programmed all of the drums with a machine and there was no live playing?

[DonJuanDeMarco]

If they are programmed, I'd like to know the machine or software they used. Was it BFD? That was a real popular one because even though it was programmed they were samples of real drums so it was the most lifelike.

Another studio trick is to have drum machine drums with real cymbals.

Regardless, Blas is an awesome drummer. The drums sound great on later albums too but much less polished. More organic and natural sounding drums.

[Mister Freeze]

I got the impression Mark and Dana made the album first, then put the band together afterwards to tour.

[sirthx2]

Yep, so good that even embarrassing songs like Burnin' Bridges beg to be cranked at top, ear-bleeding levels in the car. (liar liar liar with your pants on fire)

Speaking of 'fire', Firehouse's debut is same.

[Tourettes]

Yes! But the rumor, at least here on Sludge, is that the whole album was recorded with a drum machine.

Just listen to Kik Tracee's album No Rules that Dana produced and the drums sound magically the same.

[MattleyCrue]

Yes! But the rumor, at least here on Sludge, is that the whole album was recorded with a drum machine.

Just listen to Kik Tracee's album No Rules that Dana produced and the drums sound magically the same.

Oooo good call! Yes that do!

[aznsquirt]

I always loved the production on this album, but the snare drum sound annoys the shit out of me.

I've never heard the programmed drums thing.

But, I'm looking at the credits for the album and I think I've cracked the case on why this album sounds so good:

Gerri Miller - Camera noises

[dickdars]

Two drum machines, slaved. One for kick/snare, the other for toms. Cymbals are live.

[blackedout85]

Yes! But the rumor, at least here on Sludge, is that the whole album was recorded with a drum machine.

Just listen to Kik Tracee's album No Rules that Dana produced and the drums sound magically the same.

Good catch.

[dmbrocker]

I got the impression Mark and Dana made the album first, then put the band together afterwards to tour.

I've never really thought of this, but it makes sense that this could have been how it happened.

[Fat_Elvis]

Speaking of 'fire', Firehouse's debut is same.

I've always loved the production/sound of those 1st two Firehouse albums!

[AlexVonHaig]

Yep, so good that even embarrassing songs like Burnin' Bridges beg to be cranked at top, ear-bleeding levels in the car. (liar liar liar with your pants on fire)

Speaking of 'fire', Firehouse's debut is same.

Not embarrassing at all. Its biographical about the band with VV in it

[MOON]

Interesting. I didn't know the drums were programmed on that album.. I knew that Def Leppard programmed all drums on Pyromania and Hysteria..

What other hard rock bands/albums had programmed drums??

[DangerZone]

Yep, so good that even embarrassing songs like Burnin' Bridges beg to be cranked at top, ear-bleeding levels in the car. (liar liar liar with your pants on fire)

Speaking of 'fire', Firehouse's debut is same.

speaking of ‘liar liar with your pants on fire,’ Kiss’ “when your walls come down” rocks!

[jhenders]

Interesting. I didn't know the drums were programmed on that album.. I knew that Def Leppard programmed all drums on Pyromania and Hysteria..

What other hard rock bands/albums had programmed drums??

Check out Kuni's "Looking For Action" - sounds a lot like Slaughter's drum sound since Dana Strum helped produce:

https://youtu.be/_A4oP48IaH4

[Darrien]

I've never heard this before, is this just a Sludge thing? lol.
I did A/B Kik Tracee with the Slaughter album; never noticed how identical the drums sound. I mean, it can just be his production style, or even the same kit being used in the studio. Having said that, neither drummers are doing anything too fancy to disprove it.

[DonJuanDeMarco]

Check out Kuni's "Looking For Action" - sounds a lot like Slaughter's drum sound since Dana Strum helped produce:

https://youtu.be/_A4oP48IaH4

Never even heard of this band! Just gave it a quick listen and it sounded a lot more like VVI than Slaughter. This one is a much more obvious Def Leppard "Adrenalize" type drum machine snare sound.

One other thing I noticed is that Slaughter, Kik Tracee and this were all recorded at Cherokee Studios as well.... and Dana produced them so it makes sense they would sound similar.

[Not Jack Bulter]

Speaking of 'fire', Firehouse's debut is same.

I've always loved the production/sound of those 1st two Firehouse albums!

I believe Portnoy's drum sounds on Images and Words were using the same drum samples from the Firehouse debut. I've heard that anecdotally before. David Prater produced both, so I wouldn't be shocked if true.

[Mister Freeze]

What other hard rock bands/albums had programmed drums??

I believe at least a few of the tracks on KISS' Hot in the Shade have drum programming. (I know people don't want to hear this, but "Forever" might be one of them.)

I was in the same studio that INXS recorded part of KICK at and the tech explained to me that the drums were programmed. There wasn't even a room large enough for a kit at this place.

I'm not a big Judas Priest fan, but I recall somebody on here once mentioning those big Painkiller drums were programmed.

[sirthx2]

Yep, so good that even embarrassing songs like Burnin' Bridges beg to be cranked at top, ear-bleeding levels in the car. (liar liar liar with your pants on fire)

Speaking of 'fire', Firehouse's debut is same.

Not embarrassing at all. Its biographical about the band with VV in it

Just the lyric 'Liar Liar Liar with your pants on fire'. But yeah, if they're just being kinda funny with that lyric it gets a pass. Don't get me wrong, I crank the fucking hell out of it.

[PBFSUCKS]

What other hard rock bands/albums had programmed drums??

I believe at least a few of the tracks on KISS' Hot in the Shade have drum programming. (I know people don't want to hear this, but "Forever" might be one of them.)

I was in the same studio that INXS recorded part of KICK at and the tech explained to me that the drums were programmed. There wasn't even a room large enough for a kit at this place.

I'm not a big Judas Priest fan, but I recall somebody on here once mentioning those big Painkiller drums were programmed.

Most of HITS by Kiss was demos….theres a video with Bruce Kulick where he discusses the album and which tracks Carr actually played on.

[MattleyCrue]

Speaking of 'fire', Firehouse's debut is same.

I've always loved the production/sound of those 1st two Firehouse albums!

I believe Portnoy's drum sounds on Images and Words were using the same drum samples from the Firehouse debut. I've heard that anecdotally before. David Prater produced both, so I wouldn't be shocked if true.

Wow. Just listened to it and I can kind of hear it. Firehouse is way better than Dream Theater!

So basically no real drum kit can make these cool drum sounds?

[John Shaft]

Check out Kuni's "Looking For Action" - sounds a lot like Slaughter's drum sound since Dana Strum helped produce:

https://youtu.be/_A4oP48IaH4

Never even heard of this band! Just gave it a quick listen and it sounded a lot more like VVI than Slaughter. This one is a much more obvious Def Leppard "Adrenalize" type drum machine snare sound.

One other thing I noticed is that Slaughter, Kik Tracee and this were all recorded at Cherokee Studios as well.... and Dana produced them so it makes sense they would sound similar.

That's because, not only was it produced by Dana Strum but, Dana and Bobby Rock provide the rhythm section on the entire album with backing vocals handled by Mark Slaughter, Jeff Scott Soto and (I believe) Michael Sweet. Essentially "All Systems Go" with a different guitarist.

This is such and underrated and lost gem of an album!

[DonJuanDeMarco]

That's because, not only was it produced by Dana Strum but, Dana and Bobby Rock provide the rhythm section on the entire album with backing vocals handled by Mark Slaughter, Jeff Scott Soto and (I believe) Michael Sweet. Essentially "All Systems Go" with a different guitarist.

This is such and underrated and lost gem of an album!

Shame on me for not realizing that was JSS!!! One of my favorite singers. He sounds different in places..almost like he’s trying to sound like Mark Slaughter unless that actually is Mark I’m hearing.

Very interesting album!