Is the hate for Priest’s Turbo really justified??

[Tommy2Tone84]

British Steel has exactly zero clunkers

You like Grinder? There are a few others that suck too

[pieceofme]

Devil's Child is a great song...
Much better that 'Take These Chains'

Garbage! Chains is not only the best song on the album but one of the best songs they ever did!

Devil’s Child wouldn’t be top 30.

Guys, guys! Look at us! Squabbling! Bickering! Like children!

Chains and Devils Child are both great!

As are fever, united, and heavy duty.

[pieceofme]

British Steel has exactly zero clunkers

You like Grinder? There are a few others that suck too

British steel has no clunkers. Stop this madness

[Tommy2Tone84]

British Steel has exactly zero clunkers

You like Grinder? There are a few others that suck too

British steel has no clunkers. Stop this madness

That’s two takers for Grinder then?

One fan’s BLT is another fan’s sh*t sandwich.

I was never a diehard Priest fan.

[Love_Industry]

Priest always had a mix of clunkers and great songs on every album - They're more of a song band to me than an album band.

SFV has exactly zero 'clunkers'.

Sorry, but Fever is the clunker. Probably one of the first lame 'Fire' and 'Desire' lyric rhyming.

Fever is one of the best songs on there. Pain and Pleasure and the title track are the tracks that don’t hold up to the rest.

[pieceofme]

SFV has exactly zero 'clunkers'.

Sorry, but Fever is the clunker. Probably one of the first lame 'Fire' and 'Desire' lyric rhyming.

Fever is one of the best songs on there. Pain and Pleasure and the title track are the tracks that don’t hold up to the rest.

title track is the weakest but still pretty good.

[Love_Industry]

Painkiller fucking sucks.

And it’s arguably not metal but thrash.

It’s Priest pretending to be something they’re not to try to stay relevant.

Painkiller is Priest's sellout album. There, I said it.

Only problem is that it didn't sell very good. I guess it outsold Ram It Down but not by much.

[DangerZone]

You like Grinder? There are a few others that suck too

British steel has no clunkers. Stop this madness

That’s two takers for Grinder then?

One fan’s BLT is another fan’s sh*t sandwich.

I was never a diehard Priest fan.

Grinder is awesome

[BernieTaupson]

Especially if you want your asshole rammed.

[DangerZone]

Especially if you want your asshole rammed.

you know good & well there’s no E

[BernieTaupson]

In anal?

[Psychobolia.com]

Turbo: the hate is justified if you hate synths. It seems like there were two categories of Priest fans then, those who were also fans of the harder Slayer/Testament/Metallica bands and those that were into stuff like W.A.S.P./Crüe/Ratt, so the former category must have really hated the new sound, AND the new poofy look. Especially after Defenders, which was metal as fuck.

SfV: Devil's Child/Fever/Take These Chains, I love all three of these, the only song I would skip is the title song, never liked the verses...

[wildside1969]

British Steel has exactly zero clunkers

They should of got a Singapore Caning for recording and releasing United.

[wildside1969]

Priest always had a mix of clunkers and great songs on every album - They're more of a song band to me than an album band.

SFV has exactly zero 'clunkers'.

Are you death, Pain and Pleasure and Fever suck.

[wildside1969]

Stained Glass has no Stinkers...

Saints in Hell and Heroes End suck.

[whiteowl yesterday]

It’s a damn good record. I’ve heard the complaints… some valid… but let’s not go overboard.

Locked In alone is criminally underrated.

this.

[Love_Industry]

Stained Glass has no Stinkers...

Saints in Hell and Heroes End suck.

No they don't. SIH may be the weakest song on that album but it's far from crap.

[Love_Industry]

Turbo: the hate is justified if you hate synths. It seems like there were two categories of Priest fans then, those who were also fans of the harder Slayer/Testament/Metallica bands and those that were into stuff like W.A.S.P./Crüe/Ratt, so the former category must have really hated the new sound, AND the new poofy look. Especially after Defenders, which was metal as fuck.

Good and probably correct analysis, makes even more sense when you think about the RID tour and how they kicked Cinderella off the tour when ticket sales were slow and instead added Slayer.

Thinking about it, "metal as fuck" Defenders was probably the start of the "cartoon metal" Priest, not Ram It Down. RID was the point of no return, but already on Defenders they played to the Beavis & Buttheads of the world with Heavy Duty, Jawbreaker et al.

[dmbrocker]

I was never a diehard Priest fan.

Then most of us in this thread may as well discount your opinion. Every song on British Steel rules, "Grinder" included. And Turbo is awesome.

[Spongie]

British Steel has exactly zero clunkers

They should of got a Singapore Caning for recording and releasing United.

Googles ‘Singapore Caining’…

[HueyRamone]

I actually lived in Singapore when that American kid's buttcheeks got what was comin to them, 'Pore-style.
And also when chewing gum was made illegal with a 2 week notice.

And to those who say Saints in Hell, Screaming For Vengeance, Grinder, et all suck.... I like to make up fun things to say too! "Paul Stanley is macho and sings great! Rising Farce is cool and fun and funny! Stevil rocks a nice mane of hair! Dont Damn Me is a lib!"

[DemonFilth2001]

I actually lived in Singapore when that American kid's buttcheeks got what was comin to them, 'Pore-style.
And also when chewing gum was made illegal with a 2 week notice.

And to those who say Saints in Hell, Screaming For Vengeance, Grinder, et all suck.... I like to make up fun things to say too! "Paul Stanley is macho and sings great! Rising Farce is cool and fun and funny! Stevil rocks a nice mane of hair! Dont Damn Me is a lib!"

SFV is a good tune. People should quit pretending they don't like it. The other two? Well...they aren't good.

[pieceofme]

People shitting on saints in hell. Yeah, I'm out of this thread.

[Bono Nettencourt]

I actually lived in Singapore when that American kid's buttcheeks got what was comin to them, 'Pore-style.
And also when chewing gum was made illegal with a 2 week notice.

And to those who say Saints in Hell, Screaming For Vengeance, Grinder, et all suck.... I like to make up fun things to say too! "Paul Stanley is macho and sings great! Rising Farce is cool and fun and funny! Stevil rocks a nice mane of hair! Dont Damn Me is a lib!"

SFV is a good tune. People should quit pretending they don't like it.

Yeah if you don't like that, you don't like Priest.

[Lobo]

Turbo has 2 good songs, the rest was trash.
Priest sold the fuck out hard on that album. I'm going to assume it sold well but the hardcore Priest fans weren't happy.

I couldn't care less because I was a big Maiden fan and knew that they were superior to Priest.

[jens]

There's loads of bad things about being born only after Turbo was released.
But the good thing is to hear all these albums without the bullshit that surrounded them for you grandpas. When I heard Painkiller the first 1.000 times I wasn't aware "they were trying to be thrash", dito for Turbo & glam. There's a different sound on each and every album (up to Painkiller at least), nothing ever sounded phony or insincere to me.

Ranking of the original greatest run in heavy-metal ever, not set in stone but pretty stable
9 tot 10/10: Sad Wings, Stained Class, SFV, Defenders, Painkiller
8/10: Sin After Sin, British Steel
7/10: Turbo, Killing Machine
6/10: Rocka Rolla, Point of Entry
5/10: Ram It Down

[DemonFilth2001]

There's loads of bad things about being born only after Turbo was released.
But the good thing is to hear all these albums without the bullshit that surrounded them for you grandpas. When I heard Painkiller the first 1.000 times I wasn't aware "they were trying to be thrash", dito for Turbo & glam. There's a different sound on each and every album (up to Painkiller at least), nothing ever sounded phony or insincere to me.

Ranking of the original greatest run in heavy-metal ever, not set in stone but pretty stable
9 tot 10/10: Sad Wings, Stained Class, SFV, Defenders, Painkiller
8/10: Sin After Sin, British Steel
7/10: Turbo, Killing Machine
6/10: Rocka Rolla, Point of Entry
5/10: Ram It Down

Interesting list. But...Painkiller is 2/10. Turbo is 8/10. RiD is 4/10. Rocka Rolla is 0/10.

[BernieTaupson]

There's loads of bad things about being born only after Turbo was released.
But the good thing is to hear all these albums without the bullshit that surrounded them for you grandpas. When I heard Painkiller the first 1.000 times I wasn't aware "they were trying to be thrash", dito for Turbo & glam. There's a different sound on each and every album (up to Painkiller at least), nothing ever sounded phony or insincere to me.

Makes no sense. You can still notice the differences in music and know the history of it even if you weren’t around for it. Eg I wasn’t alive when the Beatles released their albums but listening to them I can still see how the music evolved.

[CrankerBait]

SFV is one of the best metal albums of all time. (I don't like British Steel quite as much, but it is also a classic.) Turbo isn't nearly as good, and it isn't as good as the album that came before right it, Defenders of the Faith. Combine that with the costume changes - less leather and studs and more of a '86-era Crue or Bon Jovi look - and I guess you're going to get some hate.

"Devil's Child" is one of my favorite dozen Priest songs. The vocals, the guitars and the drums are great. Hell of a song to close an album with!

[jens]

There's loads of bad things about being born only after Turbo was released.
But the good thing is to hear all these albums without the bullshit that surrounded them for you grandpas. When I heard Painkiller the first 1.000 times I wasn't aware "they were trying to be thrash", dito for Turbo & glam. There's a different sound on each and every album (up to Painkiller at least), nothing ever sounded phony or insincere to me.

Makes no sense. You can still notice the differences in music and know the history of it even if you weren’t around for it. Eg I wasn’t alive when the Beatles released their albums but listening to them I can still see how the music evolved.

Yes, but Painkiller totally sounds like the band that did Freewheel Burning or Screaming for Vengeance to me.
Just like the cheesy sing-alongs of Turbo doesn't feel radically different to You've Got Another Thing Coming or United.